Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 Hello - Can anyone tell me if men from the 18 regiments listed below served at Gallipoli? I don't believe that these regiments were represented at Bn level (I may be wrong), but it is possible that ORs or Officers from these regiments were attached to other Regiments or served in staff appointments?. Any pointers would be gratefully received. Regards MG The Buffs, (East Kent) The King's (Liverpool) Regt Devonshire Regt Somerset Light Infantry Leicestershire Regt East Surrey Regt Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry Black Watch Ox & Bucks Light Infantry Royal Berkshire Regt King's Own (Yorkshire Light Infantry) King's Shropshire Light Infantry KRRC Durham Light Infantry Seaforth Highlandrs Gordon Highlanders Cameron Highlanders Rifle Bde I am trying to establish if men from every British (pre-war) line-infantry regiment served at Gallipoli. Having trawled Westlake and the Appendices of the Official History, most Regiments seem to have been represented at Bn level by either a Reguglar Bn, TF Bn or Service Bn (see full list below) with the 18 regiments also highlighted in red. Battalions of British Infantry Regiments served at Gallipoli (Excuse the formatting - tabulation seems to have not copied): RoyalScots 1/4thBn,... 1/5th Bn ....., 1/7th Bn Queen's(Royal West Surrey) 2/4thBn Buffs (East Kent) King'sOwn (Royal Lancaster) 6th(Service) Bn NorthumberlandFusiliers 8th(Service) Bn RoyalWarwickshire 9th(Service) Bn RoyalFusiliers 2ndBn King's (Liverpool) Norfolk 1/4thBn, 1/5th Bn Lincolnshire 6th(Service) Bn Devonshire Suffolk 1/5thBn Somerset Light Infantry WestYorkshire 9th(Service) Bn EastYorkshire 5th(Service) Bn (Pioneers) Bedfordshire 1/5thBn Leicestershire RoyalIrish Regiment 5th(Service) Bn (Pioneers) Yorkshire 6th(Service) Bn LancashireFusiliers 1stBn..., 1/5th Bn..., 1/6th Bn.... 1/7th Bn..., 1/8thBn.....9th (Service) Bn RoyalScots Fusiliers 1/4thBn, 1/5th Bn Cheshire 1/4thBn, 1/7th Bn, 2/5th Bn 8th (Service) Bn RoyalWelsh Fusiliers 1/5thBn, 1/6th Bn 1/7th Bn, 8th (Service) Bn SouthWales borderers 2ndBn, 4th (Service) Bn King'sOwn Scottish borderers 1stBn, 1/4th Bn, 1/5th Bn Cameronians(Scottish Rifles) 1/7thBn (Scottish Rifles), 1/8th Bn (Scottish Rifles) RoyalInniskilling Fusiliers 1stBn, 5th (Service) Bn, 6th (Service) Bn Gloucestershire 7th(Service) Bn Worcestershire 4thBn, 9th (Service) Bn EastLancashire 1/4thBn, 1/5th Bn, 6th (Service) Bn East Surrey Duke of Cornwalls Light Infantry Dukeof Wellington's (West Riding) 8th(Service) Bn border 1stBn, 6th (Service) Bn RoyalSussex 1/4thBn Hampshire 2ndBn, 1/8th Bn, 10th (Service) Bn SouthStaffordshire 7th(Service) Bn Dorsetshire 5th(Service) Bn SouthLancashire 6th(Service) Bn Welsh 1/4thBn, 1/5th Bn , 8th (Service) Bn (Pioneers) Black Watch Ox & Bucks Light Infantry Essex 1stBn, 1/4th Bn, 1/5th Bn, 1/6th Bn, 1/7thBn SherwoodForesters 9th(Service) Bn LoyalNorth Lancashire 6th(Service) Bn Northamptonshire 1/4thBn RoyalBerkshire RoyalWest Kent 2/4thBn King's Own (Yorkshire Light Infantry) King's (Shropshire Light Infantry) Middlesex 2/10thBn, King's Royal Rifle Corps Wiltshire 5th(Service) Bn Manchester 1/5thBn, 1/6th Bn, 1/7th Bn 1/8th Bn, 1/9thBn, 1/10th Bn, 11th(Service) Bn, NorthStaffordshire 7th(Service) Bn Yorkand Lancaster 6th(Service) Bn DurhamLight Infantry HighlandLight Infantry 1/5thBn, 1/6th Bn, 1/7th Bn Seaforth Highlanders Gordon Highlanders Cameron Highlanders RoyalIrish Rifles 6th(Service) Bn RoyalIrish Fusiliers 5th(Service) Bn, 6th (Service) Bn ConnaughtRangers 5th(Service) Bn Argyll& Sutherland Highlanders 1/5thBn Leinster 6th(Service) Bn RoyalMunster Fusiliers 1stBn, 6th (Service) Bn, 7th (Service) Bn RoyalDublin Fusiliers 1stBn, 6th (Service) Bn, 7th (Service) Bn RifleBrigade Any mistakes are mine. MG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ander11 Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 Hello Martin I don't think the Black Watch served in Gallipoli, the only battalion of black watch I know around that area was the 2nd Battalion Black watch which was in Mesopotamia Regards Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 Hi Martin. An old thread Here might be of interest. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 The 1/3rd Scottish Horse served Gallipoli, and became the 13th Bn Black Watch 15/10/1916 (I think) Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ander11 Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 Martin This from the LLT http://www.1914-1918.net/Gallipoli.htm http://www.1914-1918.net/52div.htm it doesn't included the Black Watch As Mike said the 1st and 2nd Regiment of Scottish Horse became 13th Black Watch in Sept 1916 regards Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 Thanks gents... I was really looking for men serving with the 18 Line Regiments up to and including Gallipli rather than Regiments that were later absorbed. There were a number of Yeomanry Regiments absorbed/transferred into Bns of Line Infantry Regiments. My error for not being specific enough - apologies. I am really searching for men (probably Officers or SNCOs as they would be easier to track) from the 18 Regiments who may have served at Gallipoli - so,using the Black Watch as an example, did any Black Watch man serve at Gallipoli in a staff role or attached as a senior member of a TF Bn or Service Bn with another Regiment? The Bde Staffs and Div Staff were populated with men from a myriad of Regiments, and I am trying to establish if men from these 18 Regiments served there. Essentially trying to establish if every Line Infantry regiment was represented at Gallipoli in some way or other - my guess is that they probably did. Regards MG P.S. I am working on Line Cav and Yeomanry separately and will post separately - for example the 4th Hussars, 10th Hussars and 11th Hussars, Scots Greys, (among many other Cavalry Regiments) had Officers attached to Yeomanry Regiments at Gallipoli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 How about this man Capt J Grainger 11th Black Watch Attached 1st KOSB Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Owl Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 Hi Martin, Well you seem to have set yourself quite a task here, not by the numbers involved but simply by the task of rooting them out!! I have one officer for you: Lieut.L.T.L.Foster, 16th DLI att'd 1/5th Manchesters, Kia 7/8/15. I will let you know if I find anymore. Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 Seaforth Highlanders Cameron Highlanders Rifle Brigade KOYLI DCLI East Surrey Regt Somerset Light Infantry The King's (Liverpool Regt) The Buffs (East Kent Regt) Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 Skipman, Old Owl - many thanks. I just need one from each of the 18 Regiments to be confident that every Regiment was represented.... MG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 Seaforth Highlanders Cameron Highlanders Rifle Brigade KOYLI DCLI East Surrey Regt Somerset Light Infantry The King's (Liverpool Regt) The Buffs (East Kent Regt) Mike Skipman - Many thanks for flagging these...very interesting... Very very grateful..MG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 Many thanks to all of you...the only Regiments not (yet) represented are: Devonshire Regt Leicestershire Regt see Mike Skipman's post below. Ox & Bucks Light Infantry Royal Berkshire Regt King's Shropshire Light Infantry KRRC Gordon Highlanders MG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 Leicestershire Regt Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 Mike - excellent. It also confirms (again) examples of Kitchener Bn officers serving with Regular Bns. Thanks.MG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 KSLI Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 KRRC Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 Mike - I am indebted. This leaves only 3 regiments.... Devonshire Regt Ox & Bucks Light Infantry Royal Berkshire Regt As the Gordon Highlanders was served by Sir Ian Hamilton of course...MG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 Ox & Bucks Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 Royal Berkshire Regt Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 Royal Berkshire Regt Mike Fantastic... only 1 to go.... Devonshire Regt.....MG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 Fantastic... only 1 to go.... Devonshire Regt.....MG Devonshire proving problematic. There must be one. Family dinner calls, so anyone feel free to find a Devonshire man, feel free. Cheers Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 Not sure if THIS man counts? From HERE " 14391 L/Cpl Charles Anthony Victor JEEVES, MM 7th battalion Royal Dublin Fusiliers later 2nd Lt in The Devonshire Regiment attached 1/9th Bn, The Kings (Liverpool Regiment), 165th Brigade, 55th Division, B.E.F. Son of Anthony and May Jeeves of Albert Park Road joined a Chums company of the 7th Royal Dublin Fusiliers shortly after the outbreak of war and landed at Gallipoli on 9th August 1915. He transferred to the Salonika front in November, he was wounded, and in September 1916 was again wounded while trying to get a mortally wounded Major to safety. For his bravery on that occasion he was awarded the Military Medal. " Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purley Posted 26 December , 2011 Share Posted 26 December , 2011 I can confirm that no units of the Royal Berkshire Regiment were involved although one or two officers who were members of the regiment but serving with other regiments may have been involved. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 27 December , 2011 Share Posted 27 December , 2011 Not sure if THIS man counts? From HERE " 14391 L/Cpl Charles Anthony Victor JEEVES, MM 7th battalion Royal Dublin Fusiliers later 2nd Lt in The Devonshire Regiment attached 1/9th Bn, The Kings (Liverpool Regiment), 165th Brigade, 55th Division, B.E.F. Son of Anthony and May Jeeves of Albert Park Road joined a Chums company of the 7th Royal Dublin Fusiliers shortly after the outbreak of war and landed at Gallipoli on 9th August 1915. He transferred to the Salonika front in November, he was wounded, and in September 1916 was again wounded while trying to get a mortally wounded Major to safety. For his bravery on that occasion he was awarded the Military Medal. " Mike Mike. Many thanks for your terrific help in the pursuit of men from these battalions. I feel that someone will turn up who was a serving member of the Devonshire Regt at the time - sadly Jeeves does not count according to the definition of serving at the time - but thanks anyway for highlighting him....... It would be nice to be able to have the hard evidence to confirm that every British line infantry regiment was represented at Gallipoli by serving men. It is something that I have often wondered about and given the size and scale of the operation I have little doubt that the Devonshires would have had someone on the ground....I just need to keep searching. Thanks again. MG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johntanner Posted 4 March , 2012 Share Posted 4 March , 2012 There is a second Ox and Bucks Officer, also attached to the KOSB. http://www.cwgc.org/search-for-war-dead/casualty/696724/CALDERON,%20GEORGE John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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