WW1 Military Motors - 1916 set x 50 cards

[Lancashire Fusilier]

Following the Australians return to Gallipoli at the end of WW1, and the discovery by Lieutenant Cyril Emerson Hughes, from the Imperial War Graves Commission, of the ' Gallipoli ' 4.7's damaged barrel still lying by the Koja Dere road, the 4.7's damaged barrel was returned to Australia in 1922, and is now permanently on display at the Australian War Memorial ( photo attached ).

LF

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[Lancashire Fusilier]

Details on the Muzzle Ring on the ruptured barrel from the ' Gallipoli ' 4.7 inch Field Gun, stamped as follows :-

" Q.F. 4.7In IV E.O.C. - WD Broad Arrow mark - 1896 - No.716 - 'N' - 'ELSWICK S... and a number is impressed in the muzzle face, but the details are partially unreadable. "

LF

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[Lancashire Fusilier]

The ' Gallipoli ' 4.7 inch Field Gun's ruptured barrel on display at the Australian War Memorial photographed from a different angle, and showing the same damage as in posts #3348/9. Alongside the barrel is an SMLE rifle. which gives a good size comparison.

LF

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[David Filsell]

Many thanks for the suggestion to look at the Australian website. Much appreciated.

David

[Lancashire Fusilier]

In addition to those 4.7 inch Field Guns used on the Western Front and the one 4.7 inch Field Gun sent to Gallipoli, several ex-Second Boer War 4.7 inch Field Guns still mounted on their original ' Percy Scott ' gun carriages were also sent to the Balkans.

Attached are 2 photographs of a British 4.7 inch Field Gun which had been used at Ladysmith, South Africa during the Second Boer War, having been rebarrelled is seen in action on the Dorian Front in Salonika.

LF

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[Lancashire Fusilier]

A British 4.7 inch Field Gun which had been used at Ladysmith, South Africa during the Second Boer War, having been rebarrelled is seen in action on the Dorian Front in Salonika.

LF

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[Lancashire Fusilier]

With reference to the 2 previous posts, also note the Serbian officer observing the 4.7 inch Field Gun, some of which were supplied to the Serbians.

LF

[Lancashire Fusilier]

Unlike the ' Gallipoli ' 4.7 inch Field Gun which was deliberately destroyed ( spiked ) to prevent it falling into Turkish hands, the attached photograph shows one of the ex-Second Boer War 4.7 inch Guns mounted on it's original ' Percy Scott ' gun carriage which was deployed to Salonika, and was subsequently severely damaged by a shell exploding in it's breech.

LF

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[David Filsell]

Not sure how common breech explosions were with the 4.7 - or if they were particularly prone in service or as a consequence of over use. I do have one account of a breech explosion in a 4.7 at 1st Ypres and it had fearsome consequences.

David

[Lancashire Fusilier]

Not sure how common breech explosions were with the 4.7 - or if they were particularly prone in service or as a consequence of over use. I do have one account of a breech explosion in a 4.7 at 1st Ypres and it had fearsome consequences.

David

David,

It would be interesting to read that account, if you have it to hand, and it is easy to post.

Regards,

LF

[robins2]

hope this is of some interest

https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=huQhqXiB8O0&feature

regards

Bob R.

[Lancashire Fusilier]

hope this is of some interest

https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=huQhqXiB8O0&feature

regards

Bob R.

Bob,

Very interesting, and great to see all those WW1 vehicles on the road.

Thanks for posting.

Regards,

LF

[David Filsell]

LF,

I thought it was in the article I sent you but will check.

David

[Lancashire Fusilier]

LF,

I thought it was in the article I sent you but will check.

David

David,

I read through your excellent article again this morning, and could find no mention of a ' shell bursting in the breech incident '.

With regard to your article on the 4.7 inch Gun, it is full of extremely interesting information, which I am sure anyone interested in the 4.7 inch Gun would greatly enjoy reading.

Regards,

LF

[Lancashire Fusilier]

Attached are two photographs of a 4.7 inch Gun on a ' Naval ' mounting which was installed at the British Garrison at Richmond Hill, Grenada, West Indies, in July 1917.

Note the bunker built below the gun's firing platform.

LF

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[Lancashire Fusilier]

British 4.7 inch Gun in action at the Richmond Hill Garrison, Grenada, West Indies, 1917.

LF

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[David Filsell]

LF,

You are right - Search party is out.

David

[Lancashire Fusilier]

Two interesting examples of British made 4.7 inch Guns which were sold to the Turks before WW1, used by the Turks during WW1 and subsequently captured from the Turks.

The first example was captured from the Turks at Gaza in 1917.

LF

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[Lancashire Fusilier]

Another example of a British made 4.7 inch Gun sold to the Turks before WW1, used by the Turks during WW1, and having been captured from the Turks was put on display in Cairo in 1917.

LF

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[Lancashire Fusilier]

For my two final posts on the 4.7 inch Gun, here is a photograph of a British 4.7 inch Field Gun used in the German East Africa Campaign, and also another South African version of the 4.7 inch Field Gun which was probably manufactured at the Salt River factory, of note are the chained metal wheel chocks, and the gun carriage wheel design.

The first photograph is of the 4.7 inch Field Gun in action during the German East Africa Campaign.

LF

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[Lancashire Fusilier]

Another version of the 4.7 inch Field Gun, probably manufactured at the South African ' Salt River ' factory outside Cape Town. Of note, are the chained metal wheel chocks being used, and the gun carriage's wheel design.

LF

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[GRANVILLE]

Great series of photos. I particularly like those showing the construction of the wheels presumably made of riveted iron very similar to the detailing on the Britains model mentioned at the beginning. I also could not help thinking that the pair of photos in post 3367 looked as if they could have been from the American Civil War rather then 1914-18!

David

[Gardenerbill]

First great thread but......... shouldn't these gun images be in their own topic, some Forum Pals may not realise they are here and miss them?

[Lancashire Fusilier]

Great series of photos. I particularly like those showing the construction of the wheels presumably made of riveted iron very similar to the detailing on the Britains model mentioned at the beginning. I also could not help thinking that the pair of photos in post 3367 looked as if they could have been from the American Civil War rather then 1914-18!

David,

Pleased to hear you found the photographs interesting.

Although the 4.7 inch Field Gun shown in post 3367 was captured from the Turks at Gaza in 1917, time wise, there is actually not a lot of difference between the artillery used in the American Civil War which was fought between 1861-1865, and that Turkish 4.7 inch Field Gun which was probably manufactured at Elswick in the early 1900's, so just a time difference of some 30-40 years.

Regards,

LF

[Lancashire Fusilier]

First great thread but......... shouldn't these gun images be in their own topic, some Forum Pals may not realise they are here and miss them?

Mark,

Appreciate the comments.

This Thread has been running for almost three and a half years and has covered many, many types of WW1 trucks, tanks, cars, vans, armoured cars, buses, motorcycles, ships, planes, tractors, artillery, trains etc. etc., of all sorts with many, many more still to come, and I am constantly using this Thread's search box to look up items previously posted on this Thread. Were I to keep starting new Threads for each item, rather than keep them all in one easily accessible location, this Thread would not exist. Hopefully, any member interested in a particular item, can always check this Thread's search box, and they may very well find something posted here on that item.

Regards,

LF