BSM Posted 11 April , 2013 Share Posted 11 April , 2013 Keith, It is interesting to note that British troops wore such hats, looking at the photograph and based on the slouch hats, it could be assumed they were Australians. I had not seen the photograph before, and it comes from a book I recently purchased. The book is dated 1919. Thanks for the info. Leo Leo, following a browse through the thread I thought it would be worth adding a further comment re the British AA Image wherein the troops are wearing slouch hats. During some research I came across an image at the IWM (on line) some time ago. Image HU 81079 was similar from memory. can't bring it up at the moment but the caption read "The crew of a British mobile anti-aircraft gun in Macedonia rush to man their weapon after enemy aircraft are sighted". The description goes on to explain that in the summer of 1916, troops serving with the British Salonika Force were issued with the Australian style slouch hats due to a shortage of British sun helmets. This situation was reversed as soon as stocks were available the following summer and slouch hats were not again issued in Salonika. From a different research direction comes an interesting note as well. Colonel Badcock was the Assistant Director of Transport in the EEF and he wrote a book about same in the 1920's. In a section under Clothing and Equipment one of the recommendations he had made regarding head dress was - "Slouched hats in lieu of sun-helmets. Helmets through bumping against the back of the driver's seat are apt to fall over the eyes, and are therefore dangerous when driving. They are also un-wearable by artificers at work". Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSM Posted 11 April , 2013 Share Posted 11 April , 2013 (edited) Time for a new addition in the form of a group image of the smaller 2 cylinder Thornycroft lorries in civilian livery and in the process of being 'signed up' for Military service - courtesy of the early publication "Motor Transports in War" by Horace Wyatt. Rod Edited 11 April , 2013 by BSM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 11 April , 2013 Author Share Posted 11 April , 2013 BSM, Carter Paterson & Co., founded in 1860, were at that time ( WW1 ) one of the largest Carrier/Haulage Companies, and would have had a very large fleet of vehicles at the disposal of the British Government's wartime efforts. Attached is an example of the Carter Paterson van livery, and also an advertisement for ' Dennis Motors ' using a Carter Paterson van in the advert. Regards, LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 11 April , 2013 Author Share Posted 11 April , 2013 The description goes on to explain that in the summer of 1916, troops serving with the British Salonika Force were issued with the Australian style slouch hats due to a shortage of British sun helmets. This situation was reversed as soon as stocks were available the following summer and slouch hats were not again issued in Salonika. From a different research direction comes an interesting note as well. Colonel Badcock was the Assistant Director of Transport in the EEF and he wrote a book about same in the 1920's. In a section under Clothing and Equipment one of the recommendations he had made regarding head dress was - "Slouched hats in lieu of sun-helmets. Helmets through bumping against the back of the driver's seat are apt to fall over the eyes, and are therefore dangerous when driving. They are also un-wearable by artificers at work". Rod Rod, Nice follow up, which confirms the issue of the ' Slouch Hats ' to the British Troops in Salonika, as shown in the photograph. Regards, LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSM Posted 11 April , 2013 Share Posted 11 April , 2013 BSM, Carter Paterson & Co., founded in 1860, were at that time ( WW1 ) one of the largest Carrier/Haulage Companies, and would have had a very large fleet of vehicles at the disposal of the British Government's wartime efforts. Attached is an example of the Carter Paterson van livery, and also an advertisement for ' Dennis Motors ' using a Carter Paterson van in the advert. Regards, LF Mate thanks much for sharing. Always good to get some background. In the Thornycroft image....given the number of vehicles and the perfect alignment me thinks that the image is doctored somewhat whilst not doubting the size of the Company Fleet. The AIF had a number of the smaller model per the image. Examples accounted for to date include a mobile operating theatre and a number of ambulances. One of the former went to England with the 3rd CCS but it did not go to France with the Unit. It remained at the newly set up Aust. Hospital at the Southall School. Ambulance examples went to Egypt eventually being transferred to British Vehicle Recovery Parks. Father and son enthuasts in NZ have just rescued the chassis and running gear from the scrappie of one of these light lorries. Great images by the way. It will be interesting to see what comes out of the woodwork during the centenary. Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSM Posted 11 April , 2013 Share Posted 11 April , 2013 Rod, Nice follow up, which confirms the issue of the ' Slouch Hats ' to the British Troops in Salonika, as shown in the photograph. Regards, LF Yes Leo....I reckon they are 2 reliable sources of info. Interestingly Col. Badcock talks highly of the association he had with his AIF counterparts in the EEF. By the way you are burning the midnight oil as they say!! Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 11 April , 2013 Author Share Posted 11 April , 2013 Yes Leo....I reckon they are 2 reliable sources of info. Interestingly Col. Badcock talks highly of the association he had with his AIF counterparts in the EEF. By the way you are burning the midnight oil as they say!! Rod Rod, I am in the U.S. at the moment, so just getting ready to ' hit the sack '. Regards, LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 11 April , 2013 Author Share Posted 11 April , 2013 Joint U.S./ British Remington Rifle Company promotion truck at Remington's Eddystone factory, which produced .303 P14 ' Eddystone ' rifles for the British Government, and M17 rifles for the American Government. LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 17 April , 2013 Author Share Posted 17 April , 2013 The caption on this very interesting photograph is as follows :- " This German Kraftradfahrer is wearing the elusive motorcyclist's badge on his collar. Similar to the Kraftfahrer badge, photographic examples of these yellow metal badges are quite scarce. " LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 30 April , 2013 Author Share Posted 30 April , 2013 Does anyone have any details on this British 2 man mini tank ? LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 1 May , 2013 Author Share Posted 1 May , 2013 Unusual railway truck mounting for a Vickers QF Machine Gun, Mesopotamia 1918. LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wulfrik-the-wanderer Posted 1 May , 2013 Share Posted 1 May , 2013 Does anyone have any details on this British 2 man mini tank ? LF I do not believe that tank is british, nor the crew. looking at the suspension it looked very french, like a renaults.... after some narrowing of searches I've identified it as being American. It's a Ford-M1918 that has had two hull plates (and gun) removed from the front making it a sort of transport tractor unit. is it possible the tagging along passengers are Dough boys? http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/models/vehicles/Ford-M1918-WWI-Tank.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 1 May , 2013 Author Share Posted 1 May , 2013 It's a Ford-M1918 that has had two hull plates (and gun) removed from the front making it a sort of transport tractor unit. is it possible the tagging along passengers are Dough boys? Well spotted, and thanks for the info link, it says only 15 were made, and only 2 were shipped to France, hence the lack of photographs of the M1918 at the Front. Here is a photo from your link. Regards, LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 3 May , 2013 Author Share Posted 3 May , 2013 Halifax and District VAD ( Voluntary Aid Detachment ) Ambulance. LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 3 May , 2013 Author Share Posted 3 May , 2013 An unusual Rolls Royce Ambulance. LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSM Posted 23 June , 2013 Share Posted 23 June , 2013 Back again. Been busy on other things but to add to the thread is this nice pic of a NAG in a spot of bother. few nice images there leo. Thanks for sharing. Re the VAD Ambulance...do you know the make? Looks similar to a buick? Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil@basildon Posted 23 June , 2013 Share Posted 23 June , 2013 This is a German lorry made by N.A.G. The company was absorbed by Bussing during the 1920's. Back again. Been busy on other things but to add to the thread is this nice pic of a NAG in a spot of bother. few nice images there leo. Thanks for sharing. Re the VAD Ambulance...do you know the make? Looks similar to a buick? Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 19 September , 2013 Author Share Posted 19 September , 2013 Mobile AA Guns in action - it is great to see these vehicles and their AA guns in action. LF http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1060022938 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 21 September , 2013 Author Share Posted 21 September , 2013 Military Ambulance - Ulster Division. LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 21 September , 2013 Share Posted 21 September , 2013 Don't think we've had these VAD & FANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 21 September , 2013 Author Share Posted 21 September , 2013 Don't think we've had these VAD & FANY No, not yet, thanks for posting. Here is another VAD ( Voluntary Aid Detachment ) ambulance, with the driver's conopy raised. LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 21 September , 2013 Share Posted 21 September , 2013 No, not yet, thanks for posting. Here is another VAD ( Voluntary Aid Detachment ) ambulance, with the driver's conopy raised. LF They all seem happy except for the lady on the right of the photo who seems somewhat disapproving (possibly studying to become a matron?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobL Posted 21 September , 2013 Share Posted 21 September , 2013 Of the above four Ambulance photos, top one is a Vauxhall, middle two are American/Canadian designs (can't remember the precise ones but at least two manufacturers were used with very similar looking vehicles, Dodge was one of them) and lowest one is a Unic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 21 September , 2013 Share Posted 21 September , 2013 And this one is a Rolls Royce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 21 September , 2013 Share Posted 21 September , 2013 And a posher RR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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