Lancashire Fusilier Posted 15 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 15 January , 2015 Photographs of two Steamers, the ' Nigara ' and the ' Indiana ' which were requisitioned from The Anglo American Nile Co., and used as Hospital Ships taking patients from Kantara to other larger towns such as Port Said. The first photograph shows the Hospital Ship ' Nigara ' on the Suez Canal at Kantara. LF AWM This image is reproduced strictly for non-commercial research and private study purposes as permitted under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended and revised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 15 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 15 January , 2015 The Hospital Ship ' Indiana ' on the Suez Canal at Kantara. LF AWM This image is reproduced strictly for non-commercial research and private study purposes as permitted under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended and revised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigwhammer Posted 15 January , 2015 Share Posted 15 January , 2015 Paddle steamers - nice! Is there any form of transport the army didn't use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 16 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 16 January , 2015 Paddle steamers - nice! Is there any form of transport the army didn't use? Colin, The answer is no, from Railway Howitzers weighing 76 tons, to hand-carts and everything in between, the WW1 British Army had something on wheels to get the job done. One of the smaller wheeled transports was the ' Lewis Cart ' used to haul Lewis Machine Guns and ammunition, originally a hand-cart with a horse-drawn version subsequently also made. The ' Lewis Cart ' carried 4 Lewis Machine Guns and their spares, 22 magazine boxes, 176 filled magazines, and 9000 extra rounds of ammunition, a total of 1,949 lbs. The first photograph taken in 1916, shows members of the Household Regiment with their ' Lewis Carts '. LF IWM66222 This image is reproduced strictly for non-commercial research and private study purposes as permitted under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended and revised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 16 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 16 January , 2015 Members of the Middlesex Regiment with their ' Lewis Carts ' returning from the trenches near Albert in September 1916, in the background is an ' Albion A10 ' lorry. LF IWM This image is reproduced strictly for non-commercial research and private study purposes as permitted under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended and revised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadier Posted 16 January , 2015 Share Posted 16 January , 2015 Did the British ever use dog carts like the Belgians? Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 16 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 16 January , 2015 Did the British ever use dog carts like the Belgians? Nigel Nigel, The answer to your question is yes, in that I have a photograph of the Welch ( old spelling ) Regiment ( E. Coy ) using a ' Dog Cart ' to haul a machine gun. However, this is the only photograph I have see thus far of such a British Dog Cart, so it was not at all common, in fact it it was probably very rare for dogs to be used in such a manner. I think this photograph was taken overseas, possibly on Gallipoli. Whereas, the French, Belgians and Germans all had regular ' Dog Cart ' units. Regards, LF IWM This image is reproduced strictly for non-commercial research and private study purposes as permitted under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended and revised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadier Posted 16 January , 2015 Share Posted 16 January , 2015 Thanks for that L F. That fills a gap in my limited knowledge. Brilliant picture. Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadier Posted 16 January , 2015 Share Posted 16 January , 2015 The use of dog carts in Britain was apparently banned in 1841 so it's not really surprising that the military didn't use them. Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Filsell Posted 16 January , 2015 Share Posted 16 January , 2015 LF The Royal W Fusiliers were 'Welsh' Dvaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 16 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 16 January , 2015 The use of dog carts in Britain was apparently banned in 1841 so it's not really surprising that the military didn't use them. Nigel Thanks for the information, and hence the rarity of British Army ' Dog Carts ', and that photograph being taken Overseas. Regards, LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 16 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 16 January , 2015 LF The Royal W Fusiliers were 'Welsh' Dvaid David, As yet, I do not know the reason for the spelling of ' Welch ' as in Welch Regiment, as not only was this spelling used during WW1, as on the Welch Regiment E. Coy Dog Cart, but also on their Regimental Mascot's Coat ( see attached ), with this spelling also in use during WW2 ( see the attached WW2 Welch Regiment cap badge ). Regards, LF This image is reproduced strictly for non-commercial research and private study purposes as permitted under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended and revised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 16 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 16 January , 2015 Welch Regiment WW2 cap badge. LF This image is reproduced strictly for non-commercial research and private study purposes as permitted under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended and revised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigwhammer Posted 16 January , 2015 Share Posted 16 January , 2015 A fine pair of hounds pulling that cart - very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick Eggs Posted 17 January , 2015 Share Posted 17 January , 2015 Hello Just found a dog card , may be of interest, ? the army. Crimson Rambler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 17 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 17 January , 2015 Here is a photograph showing some nice details of the ' Lewis Cart ', taken at the ASC ( Army Service Corps ) Motor Transport Depot at Chantiers near Dunkerque in Northern France, and marked to the ' 2nd ASC Repair Shop '. This particular Lewis Cart, was probably used by the ASC to carry spares and or tools. LF IWM This image is reproduced strictly for non-commercial research and private study purposes as permitted under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended and revised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 17 January , 2015 Share Posted 17 January , 2015 A member from Australia posted this and may post some more here after a re enactment this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 17 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 17 January , 2015 Hello Just found a dog card , may be of interest, ? the army. Crimson Rambler. What a great photograph ! do you have any details as to when and where it was taken ? As we know, these British Army ' Dog Cart ' photos are extremely scarce. Many thanks for posting it. Regards, LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 17 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 17 January , 2015 A member from Australia posted this and may post some more here after a re enactment this weekend. johnboy, Another excellent item, and although we have seen the two-wheeled stretcher carts before, this is the first example with the covered top. Hopefully, more will follow. Regards, LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 17 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 17 January , 2015 Originally, the ' Lewis Cart ' was a hand-cart, and subsequently a horse-drawn version of a Machine Gun Cart was introduced. In the following series of photographs we can see the empty Machine Gun Cart, and also the various Machine Gun, tripod, spares and ammunition storage configurations used. The first photograph shows the empty horse-drawn Machine Gun Cart. LF IWM This image is reproduced strictly for non-commercial research and private study purposes as permitted under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended and revised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 17 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 17 January , 2015 2. LF IWM This image is reproduced strictly for non-commercial research and private study purposes as permitted under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended and revised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 17 January , 2015 Share Posted 17 January , 2015 johnboy, Another excellent item, and although we have seen the two-wheeled stretcher carts before, this is the first example with the covered top. Hopefully, more will follow. Regards, LF Nice to get an idea what they looked like in colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 17 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 17 January , 2015 3. LF IWM This image is reproduced strictly for non-commercial research and private study purposes as permitted under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended and revised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 17 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 17 January , 2015 4. LF IWM This image is reproduced strictly for non-commercial research and private study purposes as permitted under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended and revised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadier Posted 17 January , 2015 Share Posted 17 January , 2015 I suspect that the dog cart shown above is not in military service. Looking at the load I suspect it being used by a merchant for delivering goods or as a tinkers cart to try and part the soldiers from their money. Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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