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WW1 Military Motors - 1916 set x 50 cards


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Will's WW1 Military Motors - Card No.49 - Armoured Cars.

" Good use has been made by our Serbian Allies of this modern method of warfare, and much damage has been done to the enemy by these Armoured Cars ".

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Will's WW1 Military Motors - Card No.50 - Motor Ambulance.

" Through the splendid efforts of Lady Paget, wife of the British Minister to Serbia, a hospital was organised at Uskub, Serbia. Motor Ambulances, subscribed for and presented to her by her friends in England, were sent to assist in affording some measure of relief to the stricken Serbians. When Uskub was captured by the Bulgarians, Lady Paget and her noble band of heroic English nurses remained at their posts, refusing to seek safety in flight ".

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Hi LF you now have all the cards posted hopefully the photos and comments will keep rolling.This has been the first thread i check when i go on line since you started it enjoying it.john

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John,

Many thanks for the comments, and yes, although all 50 Cigarette Cards from the set have now been posted, I sincerely hope that the excellent photographs and information will continue, as there is still much to be researched and I would like to see actual photographs of each vehicle shown in the cards posted for us all to enjoy, as I know they exist somewhere, including the fantastic Armoured Tricycle! ( great Kudos to anyone coming up with that photograph ).

My thanks to everyone who has shown interest and participated in this topic, particularly member Centurion for the all the great photographs and information.

A very Happy New Year.

LF

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Will's WW1 Military Motors - Card No.36 - Motor Operating Theatre.

" An entirely new conception of surgical work is created by the modern methods of warfare, and the huge list of casualties it entails necessitates effective and immediate attention for the wounded. Operating Theatres are taken as closely as possible to the firing line "

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Will's WW1 Military Motors - Card No.49 - Armoured Cars.

" Good use has been made by our Serbian Allies of this modern method of warfare, and much damage has been done to the enemy by these Armoured Cars ".

The illustrator appears to have mangled together French Peugot and Renault vehicles AFAIK neither of which were used by the Serbs

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Lady Paget - reference card No.50

Paget, Dame (Louise Margaret) Leila Wemyss (1881-1958), hospital administrator, was born at 3 Halkin Street West, Belgravia, London on 9 October 1881, the only daughter and second of four children of Sir Arthur Henry FitzRoy Paget (1851-1928), army officer, and his wife, Mary Fiske (Minnie) Stevens (d. 1919). Her father, a grandson of the first marquess of Anglesey, rose to be general-officer-commanding the forces in Ireland (1911-17); as such, he sparked the Curragh 'mutiny' of 1914. Her American mother cut a figure in London society. They were friends of King Edward VII.

Educated by governesses, Leila became a debutante, yet an air of diffidence seemed to preclude her absorption into the smart set. On 28 October 1907 she wed her third cousin once removed, Ralph Spencer Paget (1864-1940), a diplomat who was then British minister in Bangkok. His KCMG in 1909 made her Lady Paget. She delighted in Siam, found Bavaria dull (1909-10), and encouraged her husband to accept a transfer to Serbia in July 1910.

Befriended by Mabel Grujic, American wife of the Serbian under-secretary for foreign affairs, Lady Paget volunteered to assist in the management of a military hospital in Belgrade during the First Balkan War (October 1912-May 1913). This experience had a profound effect on her; she worked so hard that her health gave way (temporarily) when the crisis was over. The Pagets returned to London, where Sir Ralph became an assistant under-secretary for foreign affairs in August 1913. Artists and musicians were often invited to their home at 32 York Terrace, Regent's Park.

The outbreak of the First World War found Lady Paget on holiday in California, but she hastily came back and immersed herself in the lord mayor's Serbian Relief Fund (SRF), which took premises in Cromwell Road, South Kensington, and purchased equipment for a war hospital. On 29 October 1914, the first SRF unit (of four doctors and sixteen nurses) sailed from Southampton, with Leila Paget in charge. They were making for northern Serbia, near the front line, but, on reaching Skoplje (modern Skopje, then still known to some by its Turkish name of Uskub) on 17 November, the SRF was invited by the Serbian Red Cross to take over the third reserve hospital in the town (a converted secondary school with 330 beds). When the first 180 casualties arrived on 22 November, nurses perceived that Serbian standards of care resembled those found by Florence Nightingale in Turkey six decades before. Lady Paget as 'head SRF Skoplje' displayed dedication and leadership of a similar order. A slender, elegant young woman, she took on the most unpleasant tasks and never asked anyone to do what she would not do herself. Dysentery, sepsis, and gangrene were rife; the water supply proved unreliable; half the staff were usually off sick. Nevertheless the SRF hospital looked after not only Serbian wounded but also Austro-Hungarian prisoners.

In February 1915 a typhus epidemic hit Skoplje. As the Serbian authorities did not seem to realize its seriousness, Lady Paget took the initiative in setting up an isolation hospital outside the town. She contracted typhus herself on 8 March and appeared near to death when Ralph Paget arrived as chief commissioner of British relief units in Serbia (which included the Red Cross and Scottish Women's Hospitals as well as the SRF). She recovered, however, and the advent of a second SRF unit at Skoplje allowed her to go to England in May 1915 for recuperation. Hailed as a heroine, she received the grand cordon of the order of St Sava from King Peter I of Serbia and a street in Belgrade was named Ledi Pazet ulica.

When Lady Paget resumed her duties in Macedonia in July 1915 the Balkan front was quiet, but all that changed when Austria-Hungary relaunched its invasion of Serbia in October and Bulgaria joined the central powers. Skoplje lay open to Bulgarian attack and Lady Paget appealed in vain for Anglo-French intervention. Instructed by her husband to evacuate the town, she judged the transport to be hopelessly inadequate for hundreds of gravely wounded men, so the SRF units decided to remain with their patients and be taken prisoner. The Bulgarians captured Skoplje on 22 October. Having nursed Bulgarians in the First Balkan War (and been received by Queen Eleanore of Bulgaria), Lady Paget seemed unafraid. Though shortages of food and fuel caused severe privation, she managed to keep the hospital open and to administer relief to thousands of refugees, while evading Bulgarian attempts to pressurize her into attesting to alleged Serbian atrocities. Her determination to supply humanitarian aid to all in need, wholly regardless of nationality, impressed the Bulgarians so much that they helped her ward off German plans to commandeer the hospital and intern the British staff, who did not leave until 17 February 1916, by which time Serbia had been overrun. The International Red Cross arranged their repatriation via Sofia, Bucharest, and Petrograd.

Lady Paget reached England on 3 April 1916. Despite disapproval in 'jingo' circles of her co-operation with the Bulgarians, the king appointed her GBE in August 1917. Dame Leila Paget resided in Copenhagen (1916-18) and Rio de Janeiro (1919-20) during her husband's final postings. The couple, who had no children, then retired to Sittingbourne, Kent, before moving in 1929 to Warren House, her late father's mansion at Kingston Hill, Surrey. She had it turned into a convalescent home during the Second World War. She died at her final home, Soames House, Coombe Hill Road, Kingston upon Thames, Surrey, on 24 September 1958.

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This looks similar - the machine gun can be moved to the side firing points.

1915 Automitrailleuse Renault.

No not a Renault - its a one off that never saw service. I'll come back with more detail.

My drawing of a Renault

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The chassis of the above are by the American maker Autocar. They had a 2 cylinder engine and steel tyred wooden wheels. They were very soon relegated to training units in the UK. One of the lorries was used as a fire engine by Epping UDC right up until 1940!

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The chassis of the above are by the American maker Autocar. They had a 2 cylinder engine and steel tyred wooden wheels. They were very soon relegated to training units in the UK. One of the lorries was used as a fire engine by Epping UDC right up until 1940!

Sorry Phill but they were by no means 'relegated to training' , a significant number of Canadians died gallantly in them in 1918. The surviving vehicles followed up the German retreat and were amongst the first Allied vehicles to re enter Belgium after the armistice.

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Sorry Phill but they were by no means 'relegated to training' , a significant number of Canadians died gallantly in them in 1918. The surviving vehicles followed up the German retreat and were amongst the first Allied vehicles to re enter Belgium after the armistice.

I'll have to get some more up to date reference books.smile.gif They were certainly the least suited chassis for an armoured car, especially in the conditions of the Western front.
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British Army Medical Officers and Nurses with Serbian staff and patients at a Serbian hospital 1915.

Reference Cigarette Card No.50

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I'll have to get some more up to date reference books.smile.gif They were certainly the least suited chassis for an armoured car, especially in the conditions of the Western front.

Better to think of them as what they were - machine gun carriers. Rather like a wheeled predecessor of the tracked carriers of WW2

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2 excellent photographs of the French Auto-Gun in action during WW1 - Cigarette Card No.32

French Auto-Gun - Card No.32

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Motorcycle mounted machine gun in action - Cigarette Card No.6

A Russian version

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It is unlikely that using the gun for AA in this manner ever achieved anything useful. If nothing else tracking the aircraft would have been nigh on impossible.

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I keep meaning to let you see this one. I know its not a 'motor', but it has got wheels! Harking back to the issue of sniper protecting devices. I hasten to add that this is not British as far as I know.

Dave Upton

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Anti-Aircraft Motor Gun in action - Cigarette Card No.1

This is an IWM image and is part of a short series of photos taken at Armentieres in early 1916. I believe the sequence was taken to show off the newly-introduced 18-pdr 9-cwt AA gun. I get the impression that the photographer wasn't expecting to find himself in the midst of an air-raid as some of the photos look staged but others show officers looking through a telescope and showing alarm, followed by the men coming pelting out of a shelter and, as in this one, running hard for their two lorries.

Note that the sides of the platform have been let down to give extra foot-room, the normal procedure, and the mudguard has been removed and placed by the back wheel so the gunners can't fall over it. You can see the tyre poking through the platform by the high-angle mount.

Keith

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The Canadian Autocar machine gun carrier again. One of the ones that provided rear guard cover in March 1918. You can see the bodies pf some of the crew beside it.

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