Tess.lodge Posted 25 November , 2011 Posted 25 November , 2011 I am trying to research my great grandfather Henry Charles Richardson MM. I particularly want to check what he did to be awarded the Military Medal.I know the following: East Surrey Regiment12th Battalion. Service No. 9614. Died 3/08/1917.I have been looking at this for several months but now my son has chosen to do a school project on Henry as he is so proud of the connection and I really want to help him learn as much as possible. He has a deadline of two weeks.There appears to be another Henry Charles Richardson in the same regiment and I am getting thoroughly confused, so any help would be gratefully received.Thank you for reading this.
Longboat Posted 25 November , 2011 Posted 25 November , 2011 Henry, There is a battalion history available to buy although I do not know if it will give any details on your gt grandfather. My link Might not be enough for your 2 week deadline but I've been told it's a good read. I have the battalion diaries for the 12th East Surrey's. I'll have a browse and see if anything pops up Stuart P.S Another link here about the book My link
ss002d6252 Posted 25 November , 2011 Posted 25 November , 2011 Name: Henry Charles RichardsonBirth Place: Shepherds Bush, Middlesex Death Date: 3 Aug 1917 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Shoreham, Sussex Rank: L/Corporal Regiment: East Surrey Regiment Battalion: 12th Battalion Number: 9614 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Admin kenf48 Posted 25 November , 2011 Admin Posted 25 November , 2011 Can't help with the MM suggest the local newspaper archive may have more information, either in an obituary or when the Medal was awarded. The citations have not survived, but you can search the London Gazette to find the date issued and the card is available at the National Archives (it may even be mentioned in the diary - see below) My guess it was earned on the Somme. Henry Charles Richardson was born in Shepherds Bush, Middlesex and enlisted in Shoreham. He was killed in action while serving as a Lance Corporal with the 12th Bn of the East Surrey Regiment. (SDGW) He went overseas after January 1916, and was awarded the British War Medal and Victory Medal as well as the MM shown on the CWGC entry No other records of his service appear to have survived. The War Diary for the 12th Bn is online and shows they joined the BEF on 2nd May 1916,landing at Le Havre. It is more than likely L/Cpl Richardson remained with them until he was killed. http://qrrarchive.we...menu1.aspx?li=1 and follow the link For his death you will need to study the period from 24th July to 7th August when the Bn came out of the line and reported 23 killed, 7 Died of Wounds, 115 wounded, 54 missing and 125 sick (the latter largely due to the constant rain and mud). As he has no known grave probably one of the missing. Suggest your son could do a lot worse than study the information contained on the parent site and accessed by the link above at the top of the page. The site also contains the ORBAT for the 41st Division and outlines the major engagements up to Third Ypres when your relative was killed. Ken
Tess.lodge Posted 25 November , 2011 Author Posted 25 November , 2011 Thank you so much for looking Stuart. I am new to this site and am amazed by people's generosity in giving up their time to help others. Thanks again, I will keep my fingers crossed that you find something. Henry. Henry, There is a battalion history available to buy although I do not know if it will give any details on your gt grandfather. My link Might not be enough for your 2 week deadline but I've been told it's a good read. I have the battalion diaries for the 12th East Surrey's. I'll have a browse and see if anything pops up Stuart P.S Another link here about the book My link Thank you for the information. It looks as though I am on the right track.
little bob Posted 25 November , 2011 Posted 25 November , 2011 Henry Notification of Henry's MM can be found in the Supplement to the London Gazette 18 July 1917. He is commemorated on the Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial Bob
Longboat Posted 25 November , 2011 Posted 25 November , 2011 Henry, If you take a look at the link that Ken posted and look at the dates of 8th June & 13th July 1917 there are two references to a Pte Richardson being awarded a Military Medal. I see Bob has come up with the Gazette reference which shows his service number so it looks as if thats him. Stuart
Admin kenf48 Posted 25 November , 2011 Admin Posted 25 November , 2011 At least he was able to celebrate his award and no doubt a memorable night with 'The Crumps'! Ken
Tess.lodge Posted 26 November , 2011 Author Posted 26 November , 2011 Thanks for this Bob, after much faffing around I have found this. It is a great addition for my son's project and a valuable piece of personal history for my family. Henry Henry Notification of Henry's MM can be found in the Supplement to the London Gazette 18 July 1917. He is commemorated on the Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial Bob
Tess.lodge Posted 26 November , 2011 Author Posted 26 November , 2011 Ken You have given me so much information that I will have to read through this very slowly! We are looking at the diary now and it is giving my son a real feel for things, which is so important. We will continue looking at everything and let you know how it goes. Thank you so much for helping. Henry Can't help with the MM suggest the local newspaper archive may have more information, either in an obituary or when the Medal was awarded. The citations have not survived, but you can search the London Gazette to find the date issued and the card is available at the National Archives (it may even be mentioned in the diary - see below) My guess it was earned on the Somme. Henry Charles Richardson was born in Shepherds Bush, Middlesex and enlisted in Shoreham. He was killed in action while serving as a Lance Corporal with the 12th Bn of the East Surrey Regiment. (SDGW) He went overseas after January 1916, and was awarded the British War Medal and Victory Medal as well as the MM shown on the CWGC entry No other records of his service appear to have survived. The War Diary for the 12th Bn is online and shows they joined the BEF on 2nd May 1916,landing at Le Havre. It is more than likely L/Cpl Richardson remained with them until he was killed. http://qrrarchive.we...menu1.aspx?li=1 and follow the link For his death you will need to study the period from 24th July to 7th August when the Bn came out of the line and reported 23 killed, 7 Died of Wounds, 115 wounded, 54 missing and 125 sick (the latter largely due to the constant rain and mud). As he has no known grave probably one of the missing. Suggest your son could do a lot worse than study the information contained on the parent site and accessed by the link above at the top of the page. The site also contains the ORBAT for the 41st Division and outlines the major engagements up to Third Ypres when your relative was killed. Ken
Tess.lodge Posted 26 November , 2011 Author Posted 26 November , 2011 I have so much information from you all and I cannot thank you enough. This is something that will keep us going for much longer than my son's project. I have come across another website that you probably know about but just in case there is someone who hasn't, I have pasted the link below: www.archive.org/details/rollofhonourbiog01ruvi It was a project that unfortunately ran out of money so only covers 10%. But if you are lucky you could find someone, with a picture and a few lines about them. I looked and found a Henry Charles Richardson but, as hard as i tried to make it fit, he was in the Navy, so it is not my Henry. It is a fascinating site to look at and I hope it is of help to someone. Henry
little bob Posted 26 November , 2011 Posted 26 November , 2011 Henry, Don't know if you have this or not but it may be of interest. 1901 Census. 499 Becklow Road , Lycett Place , Hammersmith . Robert Richardson. 1860 Painters Labourer Rabecca Richardson 1861 Launderess Lily M Richardson 1889 Henry C Richardson 1891 George F Richardson 1893 Alfred J Richardson 1896 Thomas J Richardson 1898 Don't know why but I can't find them in the 1911 Census. Bob
Jim_Grundy Posted 26 November , 2011 Posted 26 November , 2011 The Gazette date - July 1917 - suggests that he won the MM during the Battle of Arras. Typically (but certainly not always), the award appeared around three months after the date of the action so April 1917 is a strong possibility. That might help narrow down your search a little.
high wood Posted 29 November , 2011 Posted 29 November , 2011 The Military Medal was awarded for his part in a trench raid: The incessant bombardment of the enemy's lines continued with great effect on June 1st. The enemy's wire in front of the battalion was practically gone, and his front trenches were reported to be much damaged. At 9.45pm on the 2nd a party of the battalion, numbering 3 officers and 68 other ranks, under Captain W. Hagen, carried out a most successful raid. The raid was planned by Major Knapp, who received much credit for the careful and thorough preparation of the operation. At the cost of five men slightly wounded, Captain Hagen's party captured seven prisoners of the 44th Regiment, East Prussian Division, one machine gun, one telephone and several rifles. The other officers with the raiding party were 2nd Lieuts. A.G. Howitt and H.S. Todd. For services on this occasion 2nd Lieut A.G. Howitt was awarded the Military Cross, and the Military Medal was granted to Sergts. D.S. Maddison and R.W. Mayston, Cpl. M. Coghlan and Pte. H.C. Richardson. History of the East Surrey Regiment. Vol III 1917-1919. Chapter VIII page 85.
high wood Posted 29 November , 2011 Posted 29 November , 2011 Supplement to the London Gazette 26th July 1917. Page 7631. Awarded the Military Cross. 2nd Lieutenant Adam Gordon Howitt. East Surrey Regiment. For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to duty in leading a raid upon enemy trenches. The success of the raid was due to his good leadership and cool judgement. He personally reconnoitered No Man's Land afterwards to make sure that everyone had returned to our lines.
Tess.lodge Posted 30 November , 2011 Author Posted 30 November , 2011 Thanks for this Bob, it's really useful. Unfortunately it confirms my suspicions that there are no secret fortunes hidden in my past but I find it fascinating to learn about my own family's lives. Thanks again Henry 1322320130[/url]' post='1674035']Henry, Don't know if you have this or not but it may be of interest. 1901 Census. 499 Becklow Road , Lycett Place , Hammersmith . Robert Richardson. 1860 Painters Labourer Rabecca Richardson 1861 Launderess Lily M Richardson 1889 Henry C Richardson 1891 George F Richardson 1893 Alfred J Richardson 1896 Thomas J Richardson 1898 Don't know why but I can't find them in the 1911 Census. Bob
Tess.lodge Posted 30 November , 2011 Author Posted 30 November , 2011 Thanks for that, I will look up this battle. 1322321222[/url]' post='1674042']The Gazette date - July 1917 - suggests that he won the MM during the Battle of Arras. Typically (but certainly not always), the award appeared around three months after the date of the action so April 1917 is a strong possibility. That might help narrow down your search a little.
Tess.lodge Posted 30 November , 2011 Author Posted 30 November , 2011 Thanks for these two posts and your time looking up the information. It is nice to know there is recognition in a book and very interesting to learn about others involved. I know there are many stories of bravery but it is good to feel personal connection and it is helping my son a great deal, so thank you again. 1322604070[/url]' post='1675368']Supplement to the London Gazette 26th July 1917. Page 7631. Awarded the Military Cross. 2nd Lieutenant Adam Gordon Howitt. East Surrey Regiment. For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to duty in leading a raid upon enemy trenches. The success of the raid was due to his good leadership and cool judgement. He personally reconnoitered No Man's Land afterwards to make sure that everyone had returned to our lines.
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