James Ivory

[1st east yorks]

Hello all,

yesterday i was sent a picture of my GGFather from a long lost relative.Not only is this the first photo i have ever seen of him but to make it more interesting he is in uniform;his cap badge is like nothing ive seen before,though its not very clear.I knew of only one GGFather who fought in the great war(see my footnote)so to find another is really exciting.I found out a lot of information on my other GGFather so im hoping this great forum can help me again,although what i have is limited.

Name : James Ivory.

Birthplace : Dublin.(i assume,as this is where my Dad and his family are from)

Year born : 1877?? (making him 37 at the outbreak of war???)

He survived the war dying aged 80 in 1957,my relative believes.I will attach a photo when i can work out how to resize it.

Thanks in advance,

Anthony.

[ss002d6252]

There's not too may possibilities if he served overseas , hopefully your picture will allow us to find which one is him.

[1st east yorks]

This is a close up of his cap

Anthony.

[IPT]

There is a man of about the right age in the RFA who was from living in London, but served in Ireland (counted as home).

He was married to Elizabeth Martin, and had two daughters at the time, Margaret and Mary Anne.

Any good?

[tipperary]

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1911&surname=ivory&firstname=james&county=&townland=&ded=&age=&sex=M&search=Search&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&birthplace=&language=&deafdumb=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1901&surname=ivory&firstname=james&county=&townland=&ded=&age=&sex=M&search=Search&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&birthplace=&language=&deafdumb=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=

Anthony Heres the 01/11 census not too many to delve into then again he may not have been at home.john

[ss002d6252]

Hard to tell from the posted image but does it look like this ?

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=royal+irish+regiment+cap+badge+ww1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=92l1177l1l1456l4l4l0l0l0l0l390l999l0.1.2.1l4l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1252&bih=548&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

[1st east yorks]

IPT,

thanks for your reply,but this is not my GGF.He married a lady called Catherine(known as Kathleen,apparantly)nee Nolan,he had 3 sons:Val,James(my grandfather) and John and 1 daughter, Catherine.

Anthony.

[IPT]

Hard to say. Doesn't look like a harp.

You might be better posting the whole picture. There may be clues in the uniform.

[ss002d6252]

Hard to say. Doesn't look like a harp.

I wasn't sure either but with a squint and it being on an angle it might just fit.

I agree though that the uniform would be helpful.

[1st east yorks]

Sorry its took so long,thanks for all your replies.

Blowing the photo up and looking at the capbadge it appears like an upside down chevron or 2 flags back to back?????

Anthony

[1st east yorks]

Hopefully this is a bit better.A closer look at the capbadge.

Anthony

[1st east yorks]

This is as much as i can blow the image up.The capbadge looks like nothing ive seen.

I have looked at the capbadges of Irish regiments without success,any suggestions?

Anthony.

[1st east yorks]

My relative believes James was in the Royal Artillery;A driver,maybe?

Is there anyone who has access to Royal Artillery records that could kindly see if he was in the Regiment?

I know the capbadge isnt Royal Artillery,it almost looks like a shoulder title??? This at present i cant explain.

Thanks,

Anthony.

[ss002d6252]

Did he have a middle initial ?

Name: James G Ivory

Regiment or Corps: Royal Field Artillery, Army Service Corps

Regimental Number: 12571, M/280458

[1st east yorks]

Thanks for that,i will check.

Anthony.

[IPT]

He's James Garnet Ivory, born Poonah, India.

[1st east yorks]

Thanks for your replies.

ss002d6252,

My relative says he had a son called George Valentine(Val),So that may have accounted for the G;however:-

IPT,

Thats interesting,maybe this is not my GGFather.I will need to obtain more information.

I wonder how many James Ivorys there were in the Great war?

Munster,

i cant locate my man from the Irish census,thanks for your help.

Thanks again for all your help,

Anthony.

[ss002d6252]

There were 7 who saw overseas service according to the NA

http://www.nationala...=1&mediaarray=*

Medal card of Ivory, James M

Corps: Labour Corps

Regiment No: 264871

Rank: Private

Only ever served overseas with the Labour Corps

Medal card of Ivory, James G

Corps: Royal Field Artillery

Regiment No: 12571

Rank: Bombardier...

Born in India

Medal card of Ivory, James

Corps: Royal Irish Rifles

Regiment No: 9242

Rank: Private...

served with 1st RIR. Went to France Nov 14. Later a sgt

Medal card of Ivory, James

Corps: Bedfordshire Regiment

Regiment No: 14619

Rank: Corporal...

served with 7th Bn. Later a sgt

Medal card of Ivory, James

Corps: Highland Light Infantry

Regiment No: 94

Rank: Private...

Regiment or Corps: Highland Light Infantry, Royal Dublin Fusiliers, Liverpool Regiment

Regimental Number: 94, 20870, 102130

Medal card of Ivory, James

Corps: Army Service Corps

Regiment No: T2/13820

Rank: Driver

2nd Co. 8th Div Transport. Went to France in Nov 1914.

Medal card of Ivory, James H

Corps: Northumberland Fusiliers

Regiment No: 6429

Rank: Private...

Married to an Ethel

[1st east yorks]

ss002d6252,

thanks very much for your help.There are a couple of interesting ones amongst your list,particularly the driver in the service corps,the labour corps and also the RIR one.I will have to sort through them to find my man.

Thanks again for your invaluable help,

Anthony.

[ss002d6252]

I'll keeping adding any info to my earlier post and hopefully we can eliminate all but one.

[1st east yorks]

Thanks for the extra information.

Anthony.

[steve fuller]

The Bedfordshire James Ivory won the DCM, so presumably, if it was him, you would know about such a medal?

[IPT]

Was George Valentine born in 1905 (on Valentine's Day)?

If so, it's bit of a mystery where the family were in 1911.

[1st east yorks]

Steve,

Ive only recently found out about my GGFathers involement during the great war,so your probably correct,if he had of been awarded a DCM im sure we would have known.

Thanks for your help,i think i can eliminate him.

Anthony.

[1st east yorks]

IPT,

Im not sure ,i will ask my relative if she knows.

I cannot find my GGFather or his family in the Irish census either,so i agree,its a mystery where they were.

thanks,

Anthony.