19th btn lancashire fusiliers

[gladstone]

I am seeking to establish a list of officers serving in the 19th btn lancs fus. betwee1914 -1918. I have been unable to locate such a list. Any help or advice gratefully received.

[connaughtranger]

I am seeking to establish a list of officers serving in the 19th btn lancs fus. betwee1914 -1918. I have been unable to locate such a list. Any help or advice gratefully received.

Not sure how many names you've put together so far.

A few names to start with, taken from a trawl through the LF history:

Lt Col L C H Stainforth 1st CO 11th Feb 1915

Lt Col J M A Graham DSO August 1915

2/Lt D Wood Battalion IO awarded Albert medal Class 1 for attempting to retrieve and throw a badly directed bomb bomb. He lost his right hand but saved many lives

Lt H W Huxley 'A' Co

Capt G Hibbert MC 'B' Co gallant work near Authuille Wood

Lt H Musker MC

2/Lt R L George

Capt W Haywood

Capt S A Palk

2/Lt L G Longley

2/Lt T G Mahoney

Capt n Whittles MC

2/Lt D M Macfarlane MC

Lt Col J Ambrose Smith

Lt J M Smith

Capt G A Wright

Lt F R Mutch (Lewis gun Officer April 1918)

Lt G O Thomas Asst Adj (April 1918)

Lt Col H F Fenn DSO

Lt R B Norman MC

Maj H T Wade-Gery MC CO 26/4/18 - 15/5/18

Temp 2/Lt J Shiels MC

Temp Qtm and Hon Lt C W Patch

[Tasape]

The book " Salford Pals" by Michael Stedman has a full list of the 19ths officers in 1915

[gladstone]

Not sure how many names you've put together so far.

A few names to start with, taken from a trawl through the LF history:

Lt Col L C H Stainforth 1st CO 11th Feb 1915

Lt Col J M A Graham DSO August 1915

2/Lt D Wood Battalion IO awarded Albert medal Class 1 for attempting to retrieve and throw a badly directed bomb bomb. He lost his right hand but saved many lives

Lt H W Huxley 'A' Co

Capt G Hibbert MC 'B' Co gallant work near Authuille Wood

Lt H Musker MC

2/Lt R L George

Capt W Haywood

Capt S A Palk

2/Lt L G Longley

2/Lt T G Mahoney

Capt n Whittles MC

2/Lt D M Macfarlane MC

Lt Col J Ambrose Smith

Lt J M Smith

Capt G A Wright

Lt F R Mutch (Lewis gun Officer April 1918)

Lt G O Thomas Asst Adj (April 1918)

Lt Col H F Fenn DSO

Lt R B Norman MC

Maj H T Wade-Gery MC CO 26/4/18 - 15/5/18

Temp 2/Lt J Shiels MC

Temp Qtm and Hon Lt C W Patch

[cfraser]

More 19th Bn officers are included in the war diary entries for July 1 1916 that can be seen here.

http://1914-1918.inv...1

Colin

[John_Hartley]

The war diary is likely to record comings and goings (although probably not completely)

[cfraser]

The list doesn't include Lt. Geoffrey Bache Smith, one of JRR Tolkien's best friends and a major influence on his literary development. While researching the 19th Lanc. Fus. (3rd Salford), I found that he was the Battalion Intelligence officer on July 1, 1916 and Adjutant when fatally wounded in November.

Smith was part of Tolkien's 4 man circle in public school. This was the TCBS (Tea Club and Barrovian Society), "a fellowship of unusually talented, well-educated and idealistic schoolboys who met to trade ideas and indulge in clandestine tea breaks, and who ultimately shared the conviction that they would somehow change the world. The core members of the group were Tolkien's closest friends, Christopher Wiseman, a fledgling composer, Rob Gilson, a would-be artist and architect, and Geoffrey Bache Smith, an aspiring poet." Smith and Gilson both died in the Somme battle. Gilson on the first day. Of the friends, Tolkien and Smith attended Oxford while the other two went to Cambridge. As a result, Smith and Tolkien became closer. There is a school of thought that Tolkien's epic Lord of the Rings was stimulated by Smith's poetic and literary influence being added to Tolkien's mythology and language interests. I have even seen a site that states that the 4 hobbits of LOTR were patterned on the TCBS.

In his last letter to Tolkien before being wounded in late November 1916, Smith wrote:

"My chief consolation is that if I am scuppered tonight -- I am off on duty in a few minutes -- there will still be left a member of the great T.C.B.S. to voice what I dreamed and what we all agreed upon. For the death of one of its members cannot, I am determined, dissolve the T.C.B.S. Death can make us loathsome and helpless as individuals, but it cannot put an end to the immortal four! A discovery I am going to communicate to Rob before I go off tonight. And do you write it also to Christopher. May God bless you my dear John Ronald and may you say things I have tried to say long after I am not there to say them if such be my lot.

Yours ever,

G. B. S."

http://www.councilofelrond.com/modules.p....ticle&bartid=44

http://news.webshots...085649622XzgQYM

http://oxfordinkling...s-and-tcbs.html

There is a good deal of info on Smith's time in the 19th Bn in Garth's book "Tolkien and the Great War."

Colin