Northamptonshire Regiment. 1st battalion

[IsleOfAvalon]

hey.

ive been trying to find out information on my grandfathers service in ww1, and most of the old documents we have. which is few are to do with the cambridgeshire regiment. ( a few photos) but we cant find any info on his service.

but anyway to the point of the thread. Today i found this. A picture of the Northhamptonshire regiment logo, it doesnt look to old to me, but it could be a clue.

does this mean anything to anyone? like what is it? why would someone have it? or is it simply just a picture of the logo?

cheers

[Chris_Baker]

As a guess I would say that dates to the turn of the century, on the basis that it lists battle honours up to the Tirah but nothing afterward.

[Kate Wills]

Royal Anglian Regiment Museum

This link should take you to a potted history of the Northamptonshire Regiment, formed by the Cardwell army reforms of 1880 from the 48th & 58th Regiments of Foot into the 1st and 2nd Battalions of the Northamptonshire Regiment.

[Stebie9173]

I agree with Chris that the cut-off would suggest pre-1899.

Is this also in relation to Ernest William Fisher?

Can you let us know a few deatils about him, like his date/year of birth and place of birth, profession when he wasn't a soldier, his parents names and where we would have been living during his life, especially around the census and war years? It will help us focus a search.

Steve.

[IsleOfAvalon]

Thanks guys, looks like it may be fairly old after all.

yeah it does. if found this card with some of his old stuff. which we have minimal of and most of it seems to be pretty important stuff.

Living in Wisbech in 1911. we believe he was in the army fighting in france when he was 16 in about 1917-1918. so that would put his birth year 1901-1902. so i dont know if he would have had a proffession before being a soldier. but i could be wrong.

Parents were Maud Eliza Fisher and Henry Fisher but Henry died in 1913.

he got injured during the war, bullet wound to the arm i beileive, did not have full function of arm aftewards, resulting in receiving a pension which he gave to his mother

thanks

[Stebie9173]

The 1911 Census has him aged 8 in April 1911. The best fit in the birth registrations is:

Name: Ernest William Fisher

Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1902

Registration district: Wisbech

Inferred County: Cambridgeshire, Norfolk

Volume: 3b

Page: 560

So he would have been possibly just 12 at the outbreak of war, and 16 by the end of the war.

That is a pretty tight timeline to have seen active service even in 1918. I assume that he must have enlisted no sooner than the last couple of years of the war, and perhaps even into 1918.

However, his number in the Cambridgeshire Regiment being so early in their allocation in 1921 would suggest that he had already been serving at some point...

Steve.

[IsleOfAvalon]

hey, yes it does seem like a pretty tight timeline. but i guess it must of happend. sadly i cant seem to find an information. i guess ill keep on searching

i sent a message to the ministry of defence, regarding information on ww1 records and payment from australia

they said

"The Service Personnel and Veterans Agency has taken a decision that regretfully it is no longer able to help in the research of information about First World War and earlier Veterans''

so i wonder if ww1 services records would be included for a soldier who continued to serve after 1921..

thanks for your help!

[Stebie9173]

The thing that you must do with the Veterans Agency and MOD is ask for his post-WW1 records. You will have to give his Cambridgeshire Regiment number as this should identify him. other details such as next of kin, addresses and an exact date of birth would also help. They should send you what details they have, including at least notes about any earlier service that is recorded. Asking them to focus on WW1 service gets a knee jerk response of "not our period!"

As far as I am aware, not all later records will include everything about earlier service but they are likely to give at least clues.

Steve.