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Edward Owen. 'Army Schoolmaster' in Kildare


Mark Hone

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Two friends of mine are trying to research an ancestor and resolve a family legend. Edward Owen appears on the 1911 census as a 23 year old army schoolmaster in Kildare. My friends presume that he worked at the Curragh base. According to family legend it was this Edward Owen's 'murder' that led to the Owen family leaving the Irish Free State after the 1921 Treaty. However attempts by my friends, one of whom is a professional Historian, to find any mention of the murder of an Edward Owen in the death columns of the 'Irish Times' between 1919-22 have proved fruitless. They have also checked CWGC records (including the war years) and other possible places, without success. Can anyone with Irish expertise on this forum shed light on this mystery?

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Looks like the Belfast Telegraph might be the best option. I can only find one in the Death records on www.familysearch.org which is anywhere near the age or year mentioned. You can order the cert from the GRO in Dublin.

Name: Edward Owens

Registration District: Belfast

Event Type: DEATHS

Registration Quarter and Year: Oct - Dec 1919

Estimated Birth Year: 1878

Age (at Death): 41

Mother's Maiden Name:

Film Number: 0101607

Volume Number: 1

Page Number: 163

Digital Folder Number: 4201711

Image Number: 00675

Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958

Mark

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I looked at the Irish Independent for 1919-1922 but came up blank, I did find this on Ancestry's index of wills.

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Thanks for your help, chaps. Must admit that neither sound like him but I'll pass the info onto my friends. I wonder if there's a list of army schoolmasters anywhere?

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Mark

There is a list of Army Schoolmasters in WO 329 and WO 374 at the National Archives, and Schoolmistresses for that matter, but neither is comprehensive as far as I can tell.

TR

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Two friends of mine are trying to research an ancestor and resolve a family legend. Edward Owen appears on the 1911 census as a 23 year old army schoolmaster in Kildare. My friends presume that he worked at the Curragh base. According to family legend it was this Edward Owen's 'murder' that led to the Owen family leaving the Irish Free State after the 1921 Treaty. However attempts by my friends, one of whom is a professional Historian, to find any mention of the murder of an Edward Owen in the death columns of the 'Irish Times' between 1919-22 have proved fruitless. They have also checked CWGC records (including the war years) and other possible places, without success. Can anyone with Irish expertise on this forum shed light on this mystery?

Was he actually in the army - ie was he a member of the Army Corps of Schoolmasters? The AEC (later RAEC) was not created until 1920, give or take. Army schoolmasters were not commissioned, so far as I know. so that knocks out one source. Have they tried the RAEC (or ETS, as I think it now is, branch of the AG Corps) museum to find out if they have a listing of army schoolmasters? It used to have a pretty good museum at Beaconsfield, when I last saw it run by Col Archie White VC MC.

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there is a Findagrave entry for the Edward Owen who died 1926

http://www.findagrav...5382654&df=all

Edward's father appears to have been in the 1st Battn Scots Guards and then later Colour Sgt at the Royal Military Hibernian School in Dublin. 2 of Edward's sisters were born and baptized in Dublin

http://churchrecords...s/0cbb3d0372038

http://churchrecords...s/0ffd760372026

http://www.census.na..._Terrace/56249/

Possible reference to Owen here at the top of the page as a WO1?

http://www.rma-searc...MPICKS/CASM.pdf

leading to the following medal card

http://www.nationala...Edoc_Id=6547876

2 Medal Index Cards on Ancestry for Owen E Corps of Army Schoolmasters :

BWM and VM

Meritorious Service Medal awarded in Mesopotamia gazetted 29/8/1917

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/30259/supplements/9002

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