Anzac16 Posted 29 April , 2011 Share Posted 29 April , 2011 I know that there in 1917 in the town of Eemnes her in Holland a British Airship crashed. I would like to have more information about this ariship if this is possible. I myself have two photos of this crash but would like to know where is he exactly crashed?, what was it target?, what was the name/number of the airship?, what happend with the crew?, what happend with the airship and where ther victims in this crash? I allready send out a mail to Eemnes but didn't got any wanser yet Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 29 April , 2011 Share Posted 29 April , 2011 Its a non rigid Coastal Airship (blimp) used by the Royal Naval Air Service (RNAS) for patrols (usually anti submarine) over the North Sea. As such it would have no specific target (unless the Germans were operating U Boats in the Dutch canals ). Probably blown inland (possibly after engine failure). I'll have alook and see if there is any account of one lost over the Netherlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzac16 Posted 29 April , 2011 Author Share Posted 29 April , 2011 Thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 29 April , 2011 Share Posted 29 April , 2011 The Ship is RNAS Coastal Class C26 commanded by Flight Lt Kilburn. He took the airship out to search for the missing C27 whose commander was a close friend (C27 was never found and is believed to have been shot down by German sealplanes). The wind got up increasing fuel consumption. The ship ran out of fuel and drifted over the Netherlands. The crew managed to land at Portugal near Dordrecht (no mean feat in an unpowered blimp with no ground handling crew) but the ship broke loose from them in the wind and later came down, (unmanned) at Eemnes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzac16 Posted 29 April , 2011 Author Share Posted 29 April , 2011 Thank you very very much Now i hope to find out the exact spot where it came down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 29 April , 2011 Share Posted 29 April , 2011 Thank you very very much Now i hope to find out the exact spot where it came down Glad to help Please remember to let us all know if you do locate the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzac16 Posted 29 April , 2011 Author Share Posted 29 April , 2011 sure i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasta72s Posted 30 April , 2011 Share Posted 30 April , 2011 Christiansen had shot down C27 on 11 December 1917.Gray Campbell-Corning Kilburn (btw he owned early airship and aircraft licenses) and crew flew from Pulham to search for his downed comrades. C27 ran out of fuel and drifted across the North Sea to Dordrecht in Holland [not Portugal]. Stranded on a roof at Eemnes as mentioned. For more information look at this old thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 30 April , 2011 Share Posted 30 April , 2011 Discovered this which might throw some light if translated. I think it says that the radio operator had to take to his parachute (Spencer produced a special 'chute for airship crews) Op 11 december 1917 was de C27 vanuit Pulham vertrokken voor een patrouille. Noordelijk van het Kanaal werd de C27 ontdekt door de bemanning van een Duitse Hansa-Brandenburg W.12, die vanuit Zeebrugge was opgestegen. De C27 was een makkelijke prooi, en stortte brandend in zee (de ondergang van de C27 werd fotografisch vastgelegd vanuit de W.12), waarbij alle 5 bemanningsleden het leven lieten. Toen de C27 niet terugkeerde naar Pulham, werd de C26 op onderzoek uitgestuurd. Koersend voor de Belgische kust ontstonden problemen met een motor, en mist zorgde voor desoriëntatie. Met de wind mee drijvend kwam de C26 boven Nederland. Bij Poortugaal (bij Rotterdam) deed de bemanning een poging het luchtschip te verlaten. Dit lukte 4 mannen (één verwondde hierbij zijn heup), de marconist bleef met zijn been in een lus hangen en bleef aanvankelijk aan boord. Hij zag bij Sliedrecht kans de C26 te verlatenxxv. De blimp vervolgde onbemand de tocht, waarbij het rond half 6 in de ochtend bij het stoomgemaal aan de Vecht bij Utrecht een tijdje met de gondel in een boom en omgetrokken telegraaf draden bleef stekenxxvi. Hierbij gingen enkele brandbommen, een benzineblik, een oliespuit en een parachute overboord, gelukkig zonder schade te veroorzaken. De C26 raakte weer los, en via Hoge Vuursche (tussen Baarn en Hilversum) eindigde de tocht rond half 7 in Eemnes-Buiten, waar het aan de Eemnesserweg in de bebouwde kom stortte. Hierbij werd ongeveer 200 m aan palen opgehangen elektriciteitskabel vernield, een telefoonpaal, eenschoorsteen en een deel van het dak van een woonhuis. De C26 kwam tot stilstand in de achtertuin van de woning annex bakkerij van J. Heekxxvii, met de gondel ondersteboven en geknikt en het ballonlichaam vrijwel verticaal omhoog. De zware 12 cilinder Daimler motorenxxviii hadden gelukkig geen schade aangericht. In de verre omtrek werden allerlei zaken afkomstig uit de gondel gevondenxxix. Al eerder gewaarschuwde militairen uit het kamp in Laren waren snel aanwezig, en begonnen te zoeken naar de bemanningsleden. Het werd al snel duidelijk dat de vliegeniers die bij Poortugaal en Sliedrecht uit de lucht waren komen vallen bij de C26 hoordenxxx. In de middag arriveerden met vrachtwagens een aantal manschappen om het luchtschip naar Soesterberg te brengenxxxi. Onder het toeziend oog van duizenden toeschouwers werd rond 5 uur in de middag het ballonlichaam lekgeprikt; pas de volgende dag kon de C26 geheel worden afgevoerdxxxii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzac16 Posted 1 May , 2011 Author Share Posted 1 May , 2011 This is great it tells a lot I can try to translate it if you would like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 1 May , 2011 Share Posted 1 May , 2011 This is great it tells a lot I can try to translate it if you would like? Yes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzac16 Posted 1 May , 2011 Author Share Posted 1 May , 2011 Give me some time i will try to translate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzac16 Posted 1 May , 2011 Author Share Posted 1 May , 2011 On December 1917 the C27 left Pulham for patrol. North of the channel the C27 was discovered by the crew of a German Hansa-Brandenburg W.12, that had taken off from Zeebrugge. The C27 was a easy prey for the German plane and the C27 fell burring in to the see. (The downfall of the C27 was photographically recorded from the W. 12) All 5 crew members were killed in the crash. When the C27 didn’t return to Pulham the C26 was send out to look for the C27. When they got to the Belgian coast the C26 got engine problems and fog caused disorientation. The wind blew the C26 over Holland. At Poortugaal (Near Rotterdam) the crew did an attempt to abandon the ship, 4 men did got out (one injure his hip herby) the wireless operator got stuck with his leg in a loop and remained initially on board. He got out of the C26 at Sliedrecht. The Blimp continued unmanned its way until around half past 6 in the morning by a steam pumping station on the river Vecht near Utrecht it got stuck for some time in a tree and a telegraph wire. Here it lost some incendiary, petrol cans, oil spray and a parachute. The C26 broke lose again, and via Hoge Vuurse (between Baarn and Hilversum) its trip ended around half past 7 in Eemnes-Buiten, were it at the Eemnesserweg near building crasht. Because of this it destroyed an electricity cable, a telephone pole, a chimney and a part of a roof. The C27 came to rest in the back garden of a house, which also was a bakery from J. Heek, with the gondola upside-down and bent and the balloon body almost strait up. Fortunately the heavy 12 cylinder Daimler engines did not cause any damage. In the distant outlines were all kind of things found from the gondola. The already alert Dutch soldiers from the barracks in Laren were quickly present and started a search for the crew of the blimp but It soon became clear that the Airmen who fall from the air in Poortugaal and Sliedrecht were from the C26. In the afternoon a number of trucks and troops arrived to bring the airship to Soesterberg and under the watchful eye of thousands of spectators the airship was deflated and it was transported the next day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzac16 Posted 1 May , 2011 Author Share Posted 1 May , 2011 Just now i found some old Dutch newspapers with "new" Photos from the crash I Will at them later toninght Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzac16 Posted 1 May , 2011 Author Share Posted 1 May , 2011 And i found also out that it wasn't Eemnes-Buiten but Eemnes-Binnen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regulus 1 Posted 1 May , 2011 Share Posted 1 May , 2011 This is a great topic mate, glad it was indeed the C26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzac16 Posted 1 May , 2011 Author Share Posted 1 May , 2011 Thanks Johan Here is by the way a picture of a German Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 1 May , 2011 Share Posted 1 May , 2011 And C26 in person BTW this type is not a non rigid airship but an autorigid airship as it has internal bracing and the trefoil section provides against bending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasta72s Posted 2 May , 2011 Share Posted 2 May , 2011 Anzac 16, Centurion quoted from "LUCHTSCHEPEN BOVEN NEDERLAND IN DE EERSTE WERELDOORLOG (DEEL 2)" by Arno Landewers. So, you could also ask if Mr Landewers himself if he has additional information about the incident. See: http://landewers.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzac16 Posted 2 May , 2011 Author Share Posted 2 May , 2011 Thankx Jasta i will try and contact him aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzac16 Posted 2 May , 2011 Author Share Posted 2 May , 2011 This is how the route of the blimp would be but very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasta72s Posted 2 May , 2011 Share Posted 2 May , 2011 Maybe not that strange. Looks like changing wind directions: at first from a southwesterly direction, then west and finally southwest again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 2 May , 2011 Share Posted 2 May , 2011 This is how the route of the blimp would be but very strange. Well she was obviously rising and falling and, as free ballooners will testify, wind direction can vary at different altitudes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzac16 Posted 2 May , 2011 Author Share Posted 2 May , 2011 Just got a mail and i have the spot where the C26 came down. its not Eemnes-Binnen but Buiten en the adress is Wakkerendijk 3. I will go there tomorow and make some pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzac16 Posted 2 May , 2011 Author Share Posted 2 May , 2011 And C26 in person BTW this type is not a non rigid airship but an autorigid airship as it has internal bracing and the trefoil section provides against bending Where did you got this photo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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