James Dodds Posted 26 November , 2017 Share Posted 26 November , 2017 (edited) "Track in the Sand" has gone to press and will be avalable in the new year from Jardine Prees Ltd Edited 26 November , 2017 by James Dodds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 27 November , 2017 Share Posted 27 November , 2017 Good Luck with this, James Do let us know when it hits the shelves, won't you Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Dodds Posted 27 November , 2017 Share Posted 27 November , 2017 (edited) Thank you for your help . I will let you know when available. Edited 28 November , 2017 by James Dodds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifanlloyd Posted 28 November , 2017 Share Posted 28 November , 2017 James The track plan has gone A W O L,many apologies. Great to see that the book is coming out,can you give me more details of the publisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 4 December , 2017 Share Posted 4 December , 2017 The summer of 1918, central Palestine: The short-lived Jerusalem/Talpayot >> El-Bira + Surdan/Sinjil 600 mm railway was a quickly built, service railsystem to supply the front line troops and their horses/mules for the 5 months that the EEF front was stable. On the 19th September 1918, as Allenby and his Australians broke through the Turkish lines-the railway-quickly became irrelevant. It was dismantled, parts were stolen, and some of the equipment was retuned to Egypt. Some, Arab village women-to this day-sing, at weddings- a song of the "train-whistle" in the valley--that they 'heard' in 1918. (The villages north of RamAllah) (Major) Dr. Steve Sattler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 5 December , 2017 Share Posted 5 December , 2017 I have written a chapter in military railways for a book to be published by the British Ovwrseas Raulway Historical Trust - the book manuscript is ready and it is to enter production process a.s.a.p. - i am travelling but know i had a memoir of the chap who surveyed and laid the El Bireh line. Look also at the Harakevet index and archive, i had a photo of the tracks at jerusalem statio being relaid to standard gauge. Sorry i cannot be more specifuc right now but i have just decided to join the Group!!! Walter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainAlexander Posted 6 December , 2017 Share Posted 6 December , 2017 JERUSALEM TRACK PLAN For those so interested, a track plan for Jerusalem (and of Beersheba) appears in Issue 59 of the railway enthusiast magazine Harakevet - the article prepared by Paul Cotterell is archived as a pdf at http://harakevetmagazine.com/downloads/HRKIssue59.pdf IainAlexander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 6 December , 2017 Share Posted 6 December , 2017 The Jerusalem-El-Bira 600mm military railway May till Sept. 1918 This line was built very quickly, using local and Egyptian laborers (mostly females) to supply the troops and animals on the "up-in the hills" front -The El-Bira/RamAllah district today. (North of Jerusalem) Most supplies were brought up on the old J&J railway from Jaffa port, to 'just to the back' of the Jerusalem (stone) Railway station. (today this is called 'The First Station' and it is an open mall and public resturaunt complex.). This was the 1435 mm Standard Gauge. Obviously, some (many?) supplies were brought up by the older Standard Gauge from East Kantara, on the Canal, to Junction Station. The relatively new 600mm El-Bira train (this was a 'toy' train; travelling very slowly), had a set of rails, and platforms just West of the 1435 tracks and platform. There was a Goliath Crane between the two sets of tracks to 'help' with the transfers. The 600mm train tracks, also continued on, to the north, past the whole rail complex, did a loop (near the Scottish Church today), and then went due south, along the Bethlehem Road, to the Turkish supply base. This supply base was a central storage and 'safe' camp -from Ottoman attacks. The map I have -see the attachments--is from June 1921.....and thus maybe suspect, wrong or even, very accurate. Steve Sattler JmEl-Bira line Map-R.pdf JmEl-Bira line Map-L.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Dodds Posted 21 December , 2017 Share Posted 21 December , 2017 Track in the Sand has arrived, 200 pages and over 200 photographs for more details go to www.jardinepress.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 22 December , 2017 Share Posted 22 December , 2017 Thanks for the link James [May I ask if there is anything in the book from Tim Foster's time on Gallipoli?] As the postage to this neck of the woods is a bit steep, I will be be back to you early in the New Year after Santa has left something in my stocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Dodds Posted 23 December , 2017 Share Posted 23 December , 2017 There is a chapter with his letters from Gallipoli but no pkotos Could you send Santa your postal address Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifanlloyd Posted 27 December , 2017 Share Posted 27 December , 2017 Brilliant,well done James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 4 January , 2018 Share Posted 4 January , 2018 James, thanks for getting the book off I shall be watching the post very carefully indeed and looking forward to the arrival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 22 January , 2018 Share Posted 22 January , 2018 (edited) James, I've just collected your book this morning and am anxious to let you know of the packet's safe arrival here. The book is a really first class production and a credit not only to the memory of Tim & Pollie, but also to you and Catherine for your very fine work. Thanks again. Michael Edited 22 January , 2018 by michaeldr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb2 Posted 29 June , 2018 Share Posted 29 June , 2018 (edited) Hi Found this photo in VIA archive, it shows the locomotive used on the narrow gauge only this is the first time I see it with the front light and with people riding on it. Also the panel on the side looks a bit different (I added the 2nd photo as reference). The location resembles the hills of Jerusalem and together with the Jaffa sign I would guess it was taken at today's entrance to the City. Date would be ~1918. Can anyone add something about this? maybe the front light was added at certain time? Edited 29 June , 2018 by nb2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainAlexander Posted 29 June , 2018 Share Posted 29 June , 2018 The first image is an Imperial War Museum image - IWM Q 12679 - and shows a 4-6-0T Baldwin carrying Jewish recruits from Jaffa to a British Army training camp. The photo was taken on the 60cm line between Jaffa and Ludd, which is in modern Tel Aviv and was some distance from the Jerusalem - El Bira line. The second image is of the Jerusalem - El Bira line; I believe the image is from the Library of Congress collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb2 Posted 29 June , 2018 Share Posted 29 June , 2018 Thanks. That makes sense since there was no 60cm connection from the Jerusalem-El Bira line to Ludd, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eran Tearosh Posted 30 June , 2018 Author Share Posted 30 June , 2018 Not so sure about Jaffa-Ludd. The French 100 cm railway between Jaffa and Ludd was taken apart by the Ottomans in 1915, and the rails were reused for the Ottoman Military Railway (105 cm) to the south (The Eastern railway). There was a British 60 cm railway leading out from Jaffa, but I'm quite sure it was headed towards the Auja River (Yarkon), at not towards Ludd. There was a 76.2 cm track that started from Ludd, but it headed North, towards the front line (Some remnants of this railway's infrastructure can still be seen). I don't remember when the Jaffa-Ludd railway was restored, but whenever that happened, it was most likely a standard gauge (143.5 cm). There was no connection between the 60 cm railway Jerusalem - el-Bireh to any other place, except Jerusalem station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb2 Posted 1 July , 2018 Share Posted 1 July , 2018 (edited) English wikipedia of Jaffa railway station (link) states that 600mm was laid by the british from Jaffa to Ludd, with 2 extensions to Jaffa port and Yarkon river. The Jaffa-Ludd line was 600mm AND 1000mm which allowed for standard gear also. It is based on Paul Cotterell book. Edited 1 July , 2018 by nb2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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