carolm Posted 4 April , 2011 Author Share Posted 4 April , 2011 "Did you get the emails that I sent on Friday?" Hi Nigel, Yes I did and I sent a reply on 2nd. I'll find it and resend it now. Sorry, I don't know what happened there. Carolyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacNeil Posted 4 April , 2011 Share Posted 4 April , 2011 Hi Carol, Thanks! I've sent you a PM. I already recognise some names from the picture. Some of the info I have on the men is just a name and a number, now I can get a location of where they were from. I'll input this information into my index and give you some specific areas to keep an out for. This is just the sort of info I need to help me target the next level of research. Cheers for this! Colin (KOF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven belfast Posted 5 April , 2011 Share Posted 5 April , 2011 Off topic for a minute but has anyone on here looked at war diaries trying to work out were my great uncle was wounded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin kenf48 Posted 5 April , 2011 Admin Share Posted 5 April , 2011 Hello Ken, I haven't been able to find anything on the names of those A&SH men who died on 19/20 May. As you mentioned, the Scotsman stopped publishing lists of wounded in early January 1918. I don't know how likely it would be that anyone wounded before that would still be at Etaples. But anyway, I couldn't find any details. McFadyen's Service Record is available, but it looks to me as if he (just) died from wounds rather than from any later German action, but I could be wrong. Sorry I can't be more help.Good luck. Bye the way, McFadyen is indexed on Ancestry as: Archibald McFadyen abt 1894 Island Farm, Strachur 29 His A&SH number was S/21311 but Ancestry shows it as 21391 - but it is him. Carolyn, Thank you very much, that's very helpful especially to know when the Scotsman stopped listing the wounded. As for McFadyen I can see I'll have to spread my net wider in the search for service records. I've not looked at all 82 but all those I have looked at are listed as 'died of wounds' and it wasn't until I looked at the Cemetery Register I realised my relative was recorded there as 'killed in an air raid' - SDGW has him as 'died of wounds'. At the Cemetery all the OR graves are in one long line (Etaples as you probably know is unusual in that the ORs and officers are interred separately). It was seeing that that sparked my interest because until I visited the cemetery, which is a bit off the beaten track for the main battle sites I thought Percy had succumbed to an earlier wound. No doubt some were in their hospital bed but as the Chief Matron' s war diary (courtesy of Sue Light) reports many were brought in from the cavalry and infantry lines. Not sure if 26 GSH was hit most of the hospital damage was to the Candian Hospital, but seems likely McFadyen was with the other Scots, admitted on 6th May and not shown as discharged. I'll have a dig around but started a new job last week hence delay in getting back to you - thanks again, my search continues! Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin kenf48 Posted 5 April , 2011 Admin Share Posted 5 April , 2011 Off topic for a minute but has anyone on here looked at war diaries trying to work out were my great uncle was wounded As you say off topic but as i'm here...why not post his name and all you know in a separate thread in 'Soldiers'? It's usually relatively easy to see what a battalion was doing when, although it's just as likely he succumbed to the daily 'hate' or sickness. Some early (1914) diaries listed ORs but as casualties mounted only the officers got a name check especially by 1918 when often the soldier didn't know the name of the man he was standing next to in the line! Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elinga Posted 9 June , 2011 Share Posted 9 June , 2011 Hi Carolyn I have been searching everywhere regarding my g/uncle and just was reading your post so thought I would just ask you as well! he is Robert McCrorie born Irvine 20.7.1889, I was told he had enlisted at Ardrossan. according to his Medal Card , he was a Private, first with the Royal Highlanders S/11276 and then The Army Service Corp M/377309, he recieved The Victory,British War and 15 star Medals. on the record it states he entered the Theatre of War on the 24.12.1915 in France , it also states he died! I got his burial details from CWGC he is buried at Les Baraques Military Cemetery Sangatte near Calais , it says he died on 27th October 1918. Age 29 and that he was a attached to Base Mechanical Transport Depot (N). Army Service Corps. . He is mentioned on the War Memorial in Irvine and the Scottish National Memorial Edinburgh Castle. but then I came across a website called Ayrshire World Wars Casualty Databases (http://www.ayrshire-roots.co.uk/casualty.php) which says he was a Prisoner and had been wounded on 25/05/1917 and that he had died on 01/11/1918. this however is conflicting to what I already found out . I know the Royal Highlanders "became" the Black Watch, but have no idea about where Robert went in France (or before) and with what Regiment or Battalion or aything else about his time in the army! I dont think I have left out anything else that I "know" , but I would really appreciate any help at all! regards Elinga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolm Posted 9 June , 2011 Author Share Posted 9 June , 2011 Hello Elinga, The official records show Robert died in October at Calais - it looks like influenza and pneumonia, but is not very clear. Ages were rounded up so it shows he was 30. The Scotsman casualty lists of 28th May 1917 show that he was wounded. This was while he was in the Black Watch (which is the same as the Royal Highlanders). A Black Watch specialist will no doubt be able to tell you which battle this was - it would have been April or early May as the casualty lists seem to be published about 4 to 6 weeks after the action. Hope this is useful. Carolyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonmate Posted 9 June , 2011 Share Posted 9 June , 2011 elinga You may be able to find the Battalion your G/Uncle landed in France with in Dec 1915 from the 1914-15 Star Medal Roll,which was issued by the Army Service Corps as he last served with them and it was their task to complete the medal issues,even though he was a Royal Highlander when he became entitled. The original Roll is at Kew and is contained in Ledger WO329/2900, page 1449. I am not sure how efficient the ASC were in recording first unit landings so you have to hope that they entered this detail on the Roll. From that information you will be able to trace which War Dairy his unit actions are recorded in.It follows that you should then be able to place his action in 1917 when he is said to have been wounded. His transfer from an Infantry to a Supply unit will almost certainly have its origins in his wounding. I would say that it was likely that he could not return to front line duty with A1 fitness,so was re-allocated to a support unit,the ASC. His death from Influenza was during the world pandemic of the Spanish "Flu which is said to have created more casualties in a much shorter time span than the whole of WW1. Soldiers Died in the Great War (SDGW) shows that he was born and resident in Irvine and did indeed enlist in Ardrossan. It also shows date of death as 27 Oct 1918 so that date agreement between SDGW and CWGC might be the clincher as to accuracy. Sotonmate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dycer Posted 9 June , 2011 Share Posted 9 June , 2011 Carol, Have you any information on the 8th Royal Scots,specifically No 20/325002,Sgt.George S. Souness? I know he was killed in action on 22 March 1918 and came from Haddington. I would be interested to know if he ever had been wounded or repatriated sick, during his prior War service,which commenced November 1914. There was no Family story that he had been so I will not be surprised if you "draw a blank" T.i.a. George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolm Posted 9 June , 2011 Author Share Posted 9 June , 2011 Hi George, Sorry but I couldn't find anything on George Souness. Carolyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elinga Posted 10 June , 2011 Share Posted 10 June , 2011 hi Carolyn your wonderful, thank you very much for your help! regards Elaine ps will take a look over the weekend and if I may I might ask you more questions! hi Sotonmate thank you very much for th help I will look over what you have told me and try and figure it out! regards Elinga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonmate Posted 11 June , 2011 Share Posted 11 June , 2011 Elinga I have listed the Medal Roll for a look up next week so,subject to time and opportunity, should be able to tell you which Bn he served,providing it is shown of course. Sotonmate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elinga Posted 12 June , 2011 Share Posted 12 June , 2011 thanx Sotonmate Elinga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonmate Posted 14 June , 2011 Share Posted 14 June , 2011 elinga 9 Black Watch was his unit on first arrival in France. This from the original Medal Roll for the British War and Victory Medals in WO329/2052 page 27466,no sign of it in the 1914-15 Star Rolls.! The Roll also says that he was with the Northumberland Fusiliers 62432 from 7 Jan 1918 to when he joined the ASC on 21 Feb 1918. I did a check on other entries with a number similar to his,this in the Silver War Badge Lists,and it seems that he enlisted around the middle of August 1915. I also have some pics from the War Diary WO95/1937 for May 1917,but there was little action as the unit was largely in billets away from the front and doing training and sport activities ! I will pass on pics on receipt of your e-mail by PM. Sotonmate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margaretdufay Posted 25 December , 2011 Share Posted 25 December , 2011 hello carolyn was given this thread on a posting, I am researching any information on the seventh battalion the black watch between 21st march and 26th march 1918. My great uncle William Mcandrew was killed during this period. I already have the field diaries, and am after any other information photos etc thanks in advance margaret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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