KevinBattle Posted 10 March , 2011 Share Posted 10 March , 2011 I used to live near Thundersley and I saw that a resident is campaigning for a War Memorial for the men of the District. He has collected some 60+ Names from both Wars. I've contacted the local paper as one lad was murdered by the SS after baling out of his Lancaster on 18th March 1945. That anniversary isn't far away so the paper is looking to possibly run a story to help with the appeal. Thundersley War Memorial Rather than start up individual topics, could I ask for resident experts to look through the draft list for any of their specialist areas of interest and add whatever extra they can? These are the Names from CWGC using Geoffs Search Engine and Soldiers Died in the Great War, but if you know of others witha Thundersley, essex connection, please add them! As ever, thanks in advance 001 BOAG HE - ATTD B BN 31/07/1917 MACHINE GUN CORPS 002 BOOSEY TF 4127 9TH BN 07/07/1916 ROYAL FUSILIERS 003 BUDD JH 110859 - 15/08/1919 ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS 004 CABLE J 8704 2ND BN 21/10/1914 ESSEX REGIMENT 005 CARTER C 5879 1ST BN 21/08/1915 ROYAL MUNSTER FUSILIERS 006 CLARK F 59116 75TH BN 10/12/1918 MACHINE GUN CORPS (INFANTRY) 007 DAVIS H 41175 11TH BN 01/06/1917 SUFFOLK REGIMENT 008 ELLISON ST 22421 56TH FIELD COY 23/08/1914 ROYAL ENGINEERS 009 FIELDING AE 14089 10TH BN 02/11/1917 ESSEX REGIMENT 010 GOOD MH R/11385 7TH BN 02/05/1917 KING'S ROYAL RIFLE CORPS 011 GULLETT JA J/41341 HMS BLACK PRINCE 31/05/1916 ROYAL NAVY 012 HART F K/16218 HMS QUEEN MARY 31/05/1916 ROYAL NAVY 013 KING HJ 9893 3RD BN 22/05/1917 ROYAL FUSILIERS 014 LAMBERT FC 6321 1ST BN 23/07/1916 DUKE OF CORNWALL'S LIGHT INFANTRY 015 LEWIS C 20578 8TH BN FORMERLY 3RD BN 01/09/1918 WEST YORKSHIRE REGIMENT (PRINCE OF WALES'S OWN) 016 MOSS RB 7095 1ST/6TH BN 01/10/1916 DURHAM LIGHT INFANTRY 017 PHILLIPS GF 68930 62ND BDE 17/04/1917 ROYAL FIELD ARTILLERY 018 POND AE 14427 D COY 9TH BN 13/10/1915 ESSEX REGIMENT 019 POND FC A/201961 2ND BN 10/11/1917 KING'S ROYAL RIFLE CORPS 020 SARGENT S 33980 13TH BN 12/04/1918 YORK AND LANCASTER REGIMENT 021 SAWARD BL G/9069 6TH BN 15/01/1918 QUEEN'S OWN (ROYAL WEST KENT REGIMENT) 022 SMITH EA 40770 2ND BN 04/06/1917 SOUTH WALES BORDERERS 023 THEOBALD SJ 144721 6TH SIEGE BTY 31/07/1917 ROYAL GARRISON ARTILLERY 024 TODD J 33932 A COY 10TH BN 11/04/1917 THE LOYAL NORTH LANCASHIRE REGIMENT 025 WHITE P 10554 1ST BN 08/11/1918 ESSEX REGIMENT 001 HUGHES HW 826936 47TH BN 17/09/1917 CANADIAN INFANTRY (WESTERN ONTARIO REGIMENT) 001 RUSSELL E 12/3147 16TH WAIKATO COY 2ND BN 30/09/1918 AUCKLAND REGIMENT, N.Z.E.F. Soldiers Died in the Great War Name: William John Arthur Bone. Residence: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 3 Oct 1915. Death Location: Home. Enlistment Location: Westcliff-On-Sea. Rank: Private. Regiment: Essex Regiment. Battalion: 6th Battalion. Number: 2173. Type of Casualty: Died Theatre of War: Home Name: Thomas Frank Boosey. Birth Place: Upminster. Residence: Thundersley. Death Date: 7 Jul 1916. Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Southend. Rank: Private. Regiment: Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment). Battalion: 9th Battalion. Number: 4127 Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Name: Charles Carter. Birth Place: Tolleshunt, D'Arcy, Maldon, Essex. Residence: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 21 Aug 1915. Death Location: Gallipoli. Enlistment Location: Southend. Rank: Private. Regiment: Royal Munster Fusiliers. Battalion: 1st Battalion. Number: 5879 Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Balkan Theatre. Comments: Formerly 6930, Lancers Of The Line. Name: Stanley Ellison. Birth Place: Enfield, Middx.. Residence: New Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 23 Aug 1914. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Mill Hill, Middx. Rank: SPR. Regiment: Corps of Royal Engineers. Number: 22421 Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Comments: 56Th Kent Fortress Coy., R.E. Name: Albert Edward Fielding. Birth Place: Thundersley, Essex. Residence: Thundersley. Death Date: 2 Nov 1917. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Thundersley. Rank: Private. Regiment: Essex Regiment. Battalion: 10th Battalion Number: 14089. Type of Casualty: Died of wounds. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Name: William Edward Himpett. Birth Place: Sittingbourne, Kent. Residence: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 22 Mar 1918 Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Southend-On-Sea. Rank: Private. Regiment: Bedfordshire Regiment. Battalion: 7th Battalion Number: 204480. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Name: William George Hookey. Birth Place: Downton, Wilts. Residence: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 5 Dec 1917. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Southend. Rank: Rifleman. Regiment: London Regiment. Battalion: 8th (City of London) Battalion (Post Office Rifles). Number: 372909. Type of Casualty: Died of wounds. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Name: Herbert John King. Residence: Thundersley. Death Date: 22 May 1917. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Hounslow Rank: Private. Regiment: Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment). Battalion: 3rd Battalion. Number: 9893. Type of Casualty: Died of wounds Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Name: Claud Granvill Pagram. Birth Place: Finsbury Park. Residence: Thundersley. Death Date: 22 May 1915. Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Southend. Rank: Private. Regiment: Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment). Battalion: 3rd Battalion. Number: 9902 Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Name: William Hadwen Peake. Birth Place: Atherton, Lancs. Residence: Thundersley. Death Date: 31 Jul 1916. Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Southend. Rank: Private. Regiment: Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment). Battalion: 24th Battalion. Number: SP/2230 Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Name: Arthur Edwin Pond. Birth Place: Holloway, Middlesex. Residence: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 13 Oct 1915. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Southend-On-Sea. Rank: L/Corporal. Regiment: Essex Regiment. Battalion: 9th Battalion Number: 14427. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Name: Frederick Charles Pond. Birth Place: South Tottenham, Middx.. Residence: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 10 Nov 1917. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Grove Park, Middx.. Rank: Rifleman. Regiment: King's Royal Rifle Corps. Battalion: 2nd Battalion. Number: A/201961. Type of Casualty: Died of wounds. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Comments: Formerly M/299504, R.A.S.C. Tr/13/52932, 16th Training Battalion. Name: Samuel Sargent. Birth Place: Rawreth, Essex. Residence: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 12 Apr 1918. Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Warley, Essex. Rank: Private. Regiment: York and Lancaster Regiment. Battalion: 13th (Service) (1st Barnsley) Battalion. Number: 33980. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Name: Samuel James Theobald. Birth Place: South Benfleet, Essex. Residence: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 31 Jul 1917. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Southend, Essex. Rank: Gunner. Regiment: Royal Garrison Artillery. Number: 144721 Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Name: John Todd. Birth Place: Southampton, Hants. Residence: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 11 Apr 1917. Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Chisledon, Wilts. Rank: L/Corporal. Regiment: Loyal North Lancashire Regiment. Battalion: 10th Battalion. Number: 33932 Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Comments: Formerly 11512, A.C.C. Name: Frederick Ernest Tuffs. Birth Place: Diss, Norfolk. Residence: Thundersley. Death Date: 1 Jul 1916. Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Southend. Rank: Private. Regiment: Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment). Battalion: 8th Battalion. Number: 21462 Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Name: BONE. Initials: W J A. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Essex Regiment. Unit Text: 6th Bn. Date of Death: 03/10/1915. Service No: 2173 Grave/Memorial Reference: In North-West Part. Cemetery: THUNDERSLEY (ST. PETER) CHURCHYARD Name: BRUNDISH. Initials: G. Nationality: United Kingdom. Rank: Serjeant. Regiment/Service: Royal Fusiliers. Unit Text: 1st Bn.. Age: 31 Date of Death: 21/03/1921. Service No: 6446503. Grave/Memorial Reference: In North-East corner. Cemetery: THUNDERSLEY (ST. PETER) CHURCHYARD Name: MONK. Initials: E. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Yorkshire Regiment. Unit Text: 17th Bn. Secondary Regiment: Labour Corps Secondary Unit Text: transf. to (427288) Age: 37. Date of Death: 20/02/1919. Service No: 40714. Additional information: Husband of the late Alice Monk. Grave/Memorial Reference: West of Church. Cemetery: THUNDERSLEY (ST. PETER) CHURCHYARD Name: RICHARDS. Initials: J H. Rank: Gunner. Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery. Date of Death: 24/04/1918. Service No: 169192 Grave/Memorial Reference: In North-East Corner. Cemetery: THUNDERSLEY (ST. PETER) CHURCHYARD Yes, some are duplicated with both CWGC and SDGW, they wiil all have as much as I can easily find, but looking for the extra flesh to bring them back to life. TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen p nunn Posted 11 March , 2011 Share Posted 11 March , 2011 Good work Thundersley. The entry on Carter should read - place of birth Tolleshunt D'Arcy, Maldon. Best regards. SPN Maldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 11 March , 2011 Author Share Posted 11 March , 2011 Thanks, I did wonder about that but haven't as yet got the atlas out to check! Will amend the draft, meantime, any one else any Names or info to add? There must be some of the specialists for various Regiments out there just itching to join in????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boreenatra Posted 11 March , 2011 Share Posted 11 March , 2011 Kevin There are WW1 and WW2 memorial tablets in St.Peters Church. If you send me a PM with an email address I will send the pics to you. There are a couple of names I could not verify but it would also give another angle on the names you need Regards Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patesian Posted 13 March , 2011 Share Posted 13 March , 2011 59116 Pte F Clark 75 Bn MGC: Died of malaria in 76 CCS at Ludd, Palestine. (War Diary) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 13 March , 2011 Author Share Posted 13 March , 2011 Thanks boreenatra and PM sent. Thanks patesian, is that Ludd or should it read LODD, Israel?? I assume taht's from SDGW... been away this weekend so just catching up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 13 March , 2011 Share Posted 13 March , 2011 Name:Stanley CareyBirth Place:Thundersley, EssexResidence:Rayleigh, EssexDeath Date:11 May 1917Death Location:France & FlandersEnlistment Location:Southend-On-SeaRank:PrivateRegiment:Essex RegimentBattalion:2nd BattalionNumber:26237Type of Casualty:Killed in actionTheatre of War:Western European Theatre Name:Fred ChoppenBirth Place:Thundersley, EssexResidence:Hadleigh, EssexDeath Date:15 Sep 1916Death Location:France & FlandersEnlistment Location:Southend-On-SeaRank:RiflemanRegiment:King's Royal Rifle CorpsBattalion:7th BattalionNumber:R/10818Type of Casualty:Killed in actionTheatre of War:Western European Theatre Name:Alfred WattsBirth Place:Thundersley, EssexResidence:Shoeburyness, EssexDeath Date:4 Mar 1917Death Location:France & FlandersEnlistment Location:Southend, EssexRank:PrivateRegiment:Buffs (East Kent Regiment)Battalion:7th BattalionNumber:G/13257Type of Casualty:Killed in actionTheatre of War:Western European Theatre Name:Henry WebbBirth Place:Thundersley, EssexDeath Date:27 May 1918Death Location:France & FlandersEnlistment Location:Grays, EssexRank:PrivateRegiment:Northamptonshire RegimentBattalion:2nd BattalionNumber:32145Type of Casualty:Killed in actionTheatre of War:Western European Theatre Name:William ScudderBirth Place:Thundersley, EssexDeath Date:27 Aug 1918Death Location:France & FlandersEnlistment Location:SouthendRank:GDSN.Regiment:Grenadier GuardsBattalion:2nd BattalionNumber:26623Type of Casualty:Killed in actionTheatre of War:Western European Theatre Name:Bert RiversBirth Place:Thundersley, EssexResidence:Hornchurch, EssexDeath Date:23 Oct 1916Death Location:France & FlandersEnlistment Location:Warley, EssexRank:A/SergeantRegiment:Essex RegimentBattalion:2nd BattalionNumber:8896Type of Casualty:Killed in actionTheatre of War:Western European Theatre Name:James MurrayBirth Place:Thundersley, EssexResidence:Bulphan, Fen, EssexDeath Date:26 Mar 1917Death Location:PalestineEnlistment Location:Stratford, EssexRank:CorporalRegiment:Essex RegimentBattalion:5th BattalionNumber:251339Type of Casualty:Killed in actionTheatre of War:Egyptian Theatre Name:George JohnsonBirth Place:Thundersley, EssexDeath Date:26 Sep 1918Death Location:France & FlandersEnlistment Location:Stratford, E.Rank:SergeantRegiment:Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field ArtilleryNumber:70964Type of Casualty:Killed in actionTheatre of War:Western European Theatre Henry HowardBirth Place:Thundersley, EssexDeath Date:13 Sep 1916Death Location:France & FlandersEnlistment Location:SouthendRank:PrivateRegiment:Suffolk RegimentBattalion:9th BattalionNumber:28731Type of Casualty:Killed in actionTheatre of War:Western European Theatre Possible: Edward Casson 5560 1st Bn Essex regiment 12th October 1916 - Husband of Adelaide Matilda Casson of The Brambles, Cinder Path, Hart Rd, Thundersley, Essex (NB = SDGW has born Bow, resided East Ham, enlisted Warley) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 14 March , 2011 Author Share Posted 14 March , 2011 Thanks very much, IPT One puzzle emerges... You show George Johnson from SDGW, but I can't find him as such in the CWGC Debt of Honour... Name: George Johnson. Birth Place: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 26 Sep 1918. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Stratford, East London. Rank: Sergeant. Regiment: Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery. Number: 70964. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre There is this chap, same Reg't Number, same Date of Death and same Service, but.... Name: ROBEY, CHARLES. Rank: Serjeant. Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery. Unit Text: "B" Bty. 117th Bde. Age: 31. Date of Death: 26/09/1918. Service No: 70964 Additional information: Son of Wilhelmina Robey, of 58, Eden Rd., Walthamstow, London, and the late George Austin Robey. Born at Leytonstone, London. Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. A. 11. Cemetery: STE. EMILIE VALLEY CEMETERY, VILLERS-FAUCON One born Thundersley; the "other" in Leytonstone!! Thanks for the others, interestingly I used to work with a Bob Choppen, from Benfleet, just close by! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 14 March , 2011 Share Posted 14 March , 2011 Johnson's MIC confirms his rank, regiment, number and date of death. Therefore, they are the wrong details for Robey, except the Robey family details which are correct, and presumably the cemetery. There are surprisingly few MICs for Charles Robeys (4) and none of them in an artillery regiment. A real mystery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGM Posted 14 March , 2011 Share Posted 14 March , 2011 I have found this on the 1911 census Overseas military N. Battery RHA Ambala Punjab India Gunner ROBEY Charles Single Age 24 Birth year 1887 Born Leytonstone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGM Posted 14 March , 2011 Share Posted 14 March , 2011 continued... He is remembered on the Leytonstone War Memorial: see here Service number 70964 Date of Death 26/09/1918 Don't know where this gets us, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 15 March , 2011 Author Share Posted 15 March , 2011 I have contacted the CWGC to ask them to check BOTH records as I can't see it possible for 2 different men to have so many similarities, Rank, Reg't No and Date of Death (as well as both RFA). I'd normally choose CWGC over SDGW but Charles Robey does have Additional Information from his family, and they should have known!! There is this chap, who hails from close by, but no apparent link with Thundersley...... Name: JOHNSON, GEORGE EDWARD. Rank: Corporal Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery. Unit Text: "A" Bty. 310th Bde. Age: 30. Date of Death: 10/10/1918. Service No: 49787 Additional information: Husband of Annie Johnson, of 50, Balmoral Rd., Westcliff-on-Sea, Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: XVI. D. 6. Cemetery: GREVILLERS BRITISH CEMETERY but it doesn't explain why there is a conflict with CWGC and SDGW info Hopefully the Southend Evening Echo may run a follow up piece for the anniversary of F/Sgt Don Hughes, who was murdered on 18th March 1945 after baling out from his Lancaster, so that may provide a few more Names or details. Thanks to all who have pitched in so far, I'm up to 95 Names over both Wars, just need to find the "right" matches for some Smiths and Carters etc. Thanks again, keep 'em coming!! I'd rather have possibles to "eliminate" than miss a correct chap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 15 March , 2011 Share Posted 15 March , 2011 But George Johnson is the man with the MIC; http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1262&iid=30850_A000852-03004&fn=George&ln=Johnson&st=r&ssrc=&pid=5523366 On the other hand, the age, family details and cemetery seem to belong to Robey. Could Johnson have been Robey's alias? I'll be fascinated to learn what has happened here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Woods Posted 15 March , 2011 Share Posted 15 March , 2011 004 CABLE J 8704 2ND BN 21/10/1914 ESSEX REGIMENT He was a pre war regular - joining the Essex Regiment in 1906/07 Husband of Mrs. K. Cable, of 3, Hillside Cottage, Thundersley, Died during the loss and recapture of Le Gheer. Buried Lancashire Cottage Cemetery - Grave I. B. 1. I was kindly sent a transcript of the 2nd Essex war diaries by forum pal GrandsonMichael - these are the War Diaries for 5 days in October showing the engagement that Private Cable was engaged in. 30 Essex Battalion men died on the 21st October 1914. Private Cable has a marked grave, only one of two Essex Regiment casualties from the 21st October 1914 to have a marked graves. I believe, if I am interpreting the CWGC data correctly, there are also five memorial headstones in Strand Military Cemetery, Comines-Warneton, Belgium to five 2nd Essex Regiment men who were originally buried at Ploegsteert New Wood cemetery in 1914 but whose graves were later destroyed. Mon., Oct 19, 1914 ARMENTIÈRES, FRANCE 6. a.m. Ordered to be ready to move after 9 a.m. – Bn. with Inniskillings formed into Divisional Reserve. [ Map Belgium Sheet 1] 12.30 Left billets & marched via HOUPLINES to take up original position near Pt. 63 - arrived at CHATEAU & found ground & billets occupied by 1st Cavalry Div. – moved back to PLOEGSTEERT in reserve and billeted. --- signed G.M. Tufnell, Major, O.C. 2nd Bn Essex Regiment. Tue., Oct 20, 1914 PLOEGSTEERT, FLANDERS, BELGIUM 6. a.m. Front line held by Inniskilling Fusiliers – Kings Own – Lancashire Fusiliers – heavily 8.30 attacked, ordered to hold 2nd line trenches B & C Companies [changed in text to C] sent to CHATEAU. 9.30 D Co ordered to FARM. ¼ mile N of A in WARNAVE R. [ R. = RIVER] to support King Own & Lanc. Fusiliers. 4. p.m. A & B Companies ordered to P 63. Re-inforced during night by 1 Co Somerset L.I. D Company under Major Moffitt was left at Farm ¼ N of A in WARNAVE. R. Two platoons under Major Moffitt were moved about 5.30 to LEGHEER in support of 9th Lancers. --- signed G.M. Tufnell, Major, O.C. 2nd Bn Essex Regiment. Wed., Oct 21, 1914 FLANDERS, BELGIUM 6. a.m. Heavy attack on LEGHEER – which was taken by enemy - and recaptured by counter attack in which 2 platoon of D Company took part. 3. p.m. B Company ordered to PLOEGSTREERT 5.30 p.m. Headquarters & A Company ordered to MESSINES to support 1st Cav. Div. 8. p.m. Arrived MESSINE & took over line from 5th Dragoon Guards. --- signed G.M. Tufnell, Major, O.C. 2nd Bn Essex Regiment. Movements of D Co 21.10.14 No's 13 & 15 platoons (Major Moffitt) (20.10.14) 6. p.m. Billeted on arrival at LE GHEER in rear 9th Lancers. 5. a.m. ……. In E edge of BOIS de PLOEGSTEERT & commenced entrenching. 6.a.m. Attack commenced –ordered to support 9th Lancers. - No 15 Platoon sent to S E edge of wood & placed in …….. & wood - Major Moffitt wounded – C.S.M. Moss command No 15 platoon & Sgt. Barton took over command No 13 on Sgt Porter being hit – both platoons were enfiladed by machine guns. – No 13 moved forward with 9th Lancers – No 15 moved forward with E. Lanc Rgt. – wood cleared – LE GHEER Re-occupied & forward trench – Enemy charged No 13 platoon 3 times but were driven back. - Major Abadie 9th Lancers reported to the Commanding Officer that No 13 Platoon had behaved magnificently. No 14&16 Platoons 6 a.m. Ordered to support Kings Own – occupied trenches of left flank of Kings Own. – Lt. Vance killed attempting to lead a section to more advanced position – 2 Lt. Pearce sent out in front to cover advance of remainder – has not been seen since. – Sgt. Stevenson & Sgt. Sharpley , after their officers were killed, fell or missing placed themselves under command of an officer Kings Own & did good work. Casualties D Company – 1 officer killed – 1 officer wounded – 1 officer missing 66 NCO's & men killed wounded or missing. --- signed G.M. Tufnell, Major, O.C. 2nd Bn Essex Regiment. Thu., Oct 22, 1914 FLANDERS. BELGIUM 5. a.m. Attacked at MESSINES but not heavily – attack repulsed – Lt. Waller wounded. 8. p.m. Attacked by machine guns on motorcars after infantry - attack repulsed. --- signed G.M. Tufnell, Major, O.C. 2nd Bn Essex Regiment. Fri., Oct 23, 1914 FLANDERS, BELGIUM 5.30 a.m. Handed over trenches to 1st Connaught Rangers (Indian Division) & marched 1 mile NW of MESSINES to support of 1st Cav. Div. 4.30 p.m. Left for LE BIZET to join 12th Bde. Hdqrs marched via WULVERGHEN 6.15 p.m. Arrived at LE BIZET – issued supplies on roadside. 7. p.m. Marched to CHAPELLE D'ARMENTIER & took over trenches from 3rd Rifle Bde. & N. Stafford Regt – trenches ran from G of BOULOUGNE – railway on N – very bad position – attacked as soon as relief was finished – attack repulsed. --- signed G.M. Tufnell, Major, O.C. 2nd Bn Essex Regiment. Just trying to find him on the census or his marriage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 16 March , 2011 Author Share Posted 16 March , 2011 Ed: Phew! Thanks for all of that! Quick look seems to have a fairly large Cable family farming near London Road Rayleigh in 1901.... A James aged 13, perhaps our man? IPT: Will let you know what response I get from CWGC, but not seen anything similar where two sets of records are so muxed ip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Woods Posted 16 March , 2011 Share Posted 16 March , 2011 Found this one while doing a Google search http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ieB1bbgh1AsJ:ww1talk.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-746.html+alfred+watts+thundersley&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.google.co.uk Alfred WATTS, Private, #G/13257, 7th Battalion, East Kent Regiment. Son of Mr & Mrs Frederick Watts of Goose Cottage, Rawreth, Battlesbridge. Husband to Mrs Mary J. Watts of 25 Sea View Road, Shoeburyness. Born Thundersley, Resident of Shoeburyness and enlisted in Southend. Alfred was a foreman at a local engineering works and enlisted on 11/12/15 being posted to the 7th Hussars and later transferred to the 7th East Kents on 29/11/16. He went over to France on the 2/12/16. Alfred was reported as missing on 4th August 1917 during the Battle of Passchendaele whilst carrying an important message on the battlefield at Glencourse Wood. Officially he was accepted as having died 4/8/17 on the 9/5/18. His house seems to have been used as a boarding house after he joined up as the address appears on a couple of other local lads enlistment papers. Alfred is buried in Bedford House Cemetery in Enclosure IV, Plot IX. B.12. http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=485007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 16 March , 2011 Author Share Posted 16 March , 2011 Thanks for that additional information, Ed et al.. Been beavering away and have 2 more new Names (WW2) out of the 6 on the local Congregational Church memorial. So, here are the results, so far! Name: ALDRIDGE, LESLIE. Rank: Lance Corporal. Regiment/Service: Rifle Brigade. Unit Text: 3rd Bn. Age: 21. Date of Death: 22/03/1918. Service No: S/13041. Additional information: Son of Henry and Eliza C. Aldridge, of Amersham Cottage, Eastwood, Southend-on-Sea. Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 81 to 84. Memorial: Pozieres Memorial. Name: BOAG, HERBERT EDWARD. Rank: Second Lieutenant Regiment/Service: Machine Gun Corps. Secondary Regiment: Tank Corps. Secondary Unit Text: attd. "B" Bn. Age: 25. Date of Death: 31/07/1917. Additional information: Son of the late Thomas Reginald Lister-Boag, of Yokohama, Japan, and Elizabeth Boag, of "Oxenford," Kennington Avenue, New Thundersley, Essex. A Journalist. Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 56. Memorial: Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial Name: BONE. Initials: W J A. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Essex Regiment. Unit Text: 6th Bn. Date of Death: 03/10/1915. Service No: 2173 Grave/Memorial Reference: In North-West Part. Cemetery: Thundersley (St. Peter) Churchyard. Name: William John Arthur Bone. Residence: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 3 Oct 1915. Death Location: Home. Enlistment Location: Westcliff on Sea. Rank: Private. Regiment: Essex Regiment. Battalion: 6th Battalion. Number: 2173. Type of Casualty: Died. Theatre of War: Home Name: BOOSEY, THOMAS FRANK. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Royal Fusiliers. Unit Text: 9th Bn. Age: 21. Date of Death: 07/07/1916. Service No: 4127. Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. F. Boosey, of The Briar, Thundersley, Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 8 C 9 A and 16 A. Memorial: Thiepval Memorial. Name: Thomas Frank Boosey. Birth Place: Upminster. Residence: Thundersley. Death Date: 7 Jul 1916. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Southend. Rank: Private. Regiment: Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment). Battalion: 9th Battalion. Number: 4127 Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Name: BRUNDISH. Initials: G. Nationality: United Kingdom. Rank: Serjeant. Regiment/Service: Royal Fusiliers. Unit Text: 1st Bn. Age: 31. Date of Death: 21/03/1921. Service No: 6446503. Grave/Memorial Reference: In North-East corner. Cemetery: Thundersley (St. Peter) Churchyard. Name: BUDD, JOHN HENRY. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Royal Army Medical Corps. Age: 21. Date of Death: 15/08/1919. Service No: 110859 Additional information: Only son of Henry and Maude Budd, of "Langholm" 2, Hadleigh Park Avenue, Thundersley, Essex. (buried Tiflis British Cemetery). Memorial: Haidar Pasha Memorial. Name: CABLE. Initials: J. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Essex Regiment. Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Date of Death: 21/10/1914. Service No: 8704 Additional information: Husband of Mrs. K. Cable, of 3, Hillside Cottage, Thundersley, Southend-on-Sea. Grave/Memorial Reference: I. B. 1. Cemetery: Lancashire Cottage Cemetery. Name: CAREY. Initials: S. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Essex Regiment. Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Date of Death: 11/05/1917. Service No: 26237. Grave/Memorial Reference: II. B. 3. Cemetery: Brown's Copse Cemetery, Rouex. Name: Stanley Carey Birth Place: Thundersley, Essex. Residence: Rayleigh, Essex. Death Date: 11 May 1917 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Southend-On-Sea Rank: Private Regiment: Essex Regiment Battalion: 2nd Battalion Number::26237 Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Name: CARTER, A. (Too many to choose from, none with apparent Thundersley connections). Name: CARTER, CHARLES. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Royal Munster Fusiliers. Unit Text: 1st Bn. Age: 24. Date of Death: 21/08/1915 Service No: 5879. Additional information: Son of Mrs. Ada Carter, of Hazelmere Rd., New Thundersley, Southend-on-Sea. Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 185 to 190. Memorial: Helles Memorial. Name: Charles Carter. Birth Place: Tolleshunt d'Arcy, Maldon, Essex. Residence: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 21 Aug 1915. Death Location: Gallipoli. Enlistment Location: Southend. Rank: Private. Regiment: Royal Munster Fusiliers. Battalion: 1st Battalion. Number: 5879. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Balkan Theatre. Comments: Formerly 6930, Lancers of the Line. Name: CARTER, F. (Too many to choose, none with apparent Thundersley connections). Name: CASSON, EDWARD. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Essex Regiment. Unit Text: 1st Bn. Date of Death: 12/10/1916. Service No: 5560. Additional information: Husband of Adelaide Matilda Casson, of The Brambles, Cinder Path, Hart Rd. Thundersley. Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: 2.B.15. Cemetery: London Cemetery and Extension, Longueval. Name: Edward Casson Number: 5560 Regiment: 1st Bn Essex Regiment. Date of Death: 12th October 1916. Additional Information:- Husband of Adelaide Matilda Casson of The Brambles, Cinder Path, Hart Rd, Thundersley, Essex. (NB Soldiers Died in the Great War shows him born Bow, resided East Ham, enlisted Warley). Name: CLARK. Initials: F. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Machine Gun Corps (Infantry). Unit Text: 75th Bn. Age: 27. Date of Death: 10/12/1918. Service No: 59116. Additional information: Son of George and Mary Clark, of Thundersley; husband of A. C. Clark, of Eva Cottage, The Chase, Thundersley, Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: A. 51. Cemetery: Ramleh War Cemetery. Name: DAVIS, HUBERT. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Suffolk Regiment. Unit Text: 11th Bn. Age: 35. Date of Death: 01/06/1917. Service No: 41175. Additional information: Son of John and Marian Davis, of Thundersley House, Thundersley, Essex; husband of Balbina Davis, of "Eastlea", 97, Lansdowne Avenue, Leigh-on-Sea. Grave/Memorial Reference: Bay 4. Memorial: Arras Memorial (NOTE: Difference in spelling “DAVIES” on the St Peter Memorial) Name: ELLISON, STANLEY THOMAS. Rank: Sapper. Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers. Unit Text: 56th Field Coy. Age: 22. Date of Death: 23/08/1914. Service No: 22421. Additional information: Son of Thomas Daniel & Alice Eliza Ellison, of The Manor, New Thundersley. Grave/Memorial Reference: I. D. 13. Cemetery: Hautrage Military Cemetery. Name: Stanley Ellison. Birth Place: Enfield, Middx. Residence: New Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 23 Aug 1914. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Mill Hill, Middx. Rank: Sapper. Regiment: Corps of Royal Engineers. Number: 22421. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Comments: 56Th Kent Fortress Coy, R.E. Name: FIELDING. Initials: A E. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Essex Regiment. Unit Text: 10th Bn. Date of Death: 02/11/1917. Service No: 14089 Additional information: Son of Hannah Fielding, of Valley Cottage, Daw's Heath Rd., Thundersley, Southend-on-Sea, and the late George Fielding. Grave/Memorial Reference: XIV. D. 13. Cemetery: Dozinghem Military Cemetery Name: Albert Edward Fielding. Birth Place: Thundersley, Essex. Residence: Thundersley. Death Date: 2 Nov 1917. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Thundersley. Rank: Private. Regiment: Essex Regiment. Battalion: 10th Battalion. Number: 14089. Type of Casualty: Died of wounds. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Name: GOOD, MORTON HANDLEY. Rank: Rifleman. Regiment/Service: King's Royal Rifle Corps. Unit Text: 7th Bn. Age: 21. Date of Death: 02/05/1917. Service No: R/11385. Additional information: Son of William Thomas and Ellen Jane Good, of "Hazlemere," Bread and Cheese Hill, Thundersley, Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: X. G. 8. Cemetery: Warlincourt Halte British Cemetery, Saulty Name: GULLETT, JAMES ANTONY. Rank: Signal Boy. Regiment/Service: Royal Navy. Unit Text: H.M.S. "Black Prince." Age: 17. Date of Death: 31/05/1916. Service No: J/41341 Additional information: Son of Frank Baker Gullett and Dorcas Emma Gullett, of Daisy Bungalow, Kiln Rd., Thundersley, Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: 16. Memorial: Chatham Naval Memorial. Name: HART, FREDERICK. Rank: Stoker 1st Class. Regiment/Service: Royal Navy. Unit Text: H.M.S. "Queen Mary". Age: 22. Date of Death: 31/05/1916. Service No: K/16218. Additional information: Son of Richard and Mary Jane Hart, of "Brookland," Kiln Rd., Thundersley, Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: 18. Memorial: Portsmouth Naval Memorial. Name: HIMPETT, WILLIAM E. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Bedfordshire Regiment. Unit Text: 7th Bn. Age: 31. Date of Death: 22/03/1918. Service No: 204480. Additional information: Son of Mrs. A. Himpett, of 7, Poole's Lane, Hull Bridge, Hockley, Essex; husband of L. Westhorp (formerly Himpett), of 8, Albert Square, Southend-on-Sea. Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 28 and 29. Memorial: Pozieres Memorial. Name: William Edward Himpett. Birth Place: Sittingbourne, Kent. Residence: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 22 Mar 1918. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Southend-On-Sea. Rank: Private. Regiment: Bedfordshire Regiment. Battalion: 7th Battalion. Number: 204480. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Name: HOOKEY. Initials: W G. Rank: Rifleman. Regiment/Service: London Regiment (Post Office Rifles). Unit Text: 8th Bn. Age: 28. Date of Death: 05/12/1917. Service No: 372909 Additional information: Son of G. and M. Hookey, of Downton; husband of Eliza Ann Hookey, of Gladstone Villa, Eastern Rd., Rayleigh, Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: IX. C. 11. Cemetery: Grevillers British Cemetery. Name: William George Hookey. Birth Place: Downton, Wilts. Residence: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 5 Dec 1917. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Southend. Rank: Rifleman. Regiment: London Regiment. Battalion: 8th (City of London) Battalion (Post Office Rifles). Number: 372909. Type of Casualty: Died of wounds. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Name: HOPWOOD, F. (9 to choose from, none with any obvious Thundersley connection). Name: HOWARD. Initials: H. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Suffolk Regiment. Unit Text: 9th Bn. Date of Death: 13/09/1916. Service No: 28731. Grave/Memorial Reference: VIII. C. 6. Cemetery: Guillemont Road Cemetery, Guillemont Name: Henry Howard. Birth Place: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 13 Sep 1916. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Southend. Rank: Private. Regiment: Suffolk Regiment. Battalion: 9th Battalion. Number: 28731. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Name: HUGHES, HUGH WILLIAM. Nationality: Canadian. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Canadian Infantry (Western Ontario Regiment). Unit Text: 47th Bn. Age: 37. Date of Death: 17/09/1917. Service No: 826936. Additional information: Son of John James and Mary Ann Hughes, of Old Southgate, London, England; husband of Mrs. D. M. Hughes, of Main Rd., Thundersley, Essex, England.. Grave/Memorial Reference: XXVI. B. 8. Cemetery: Etaples Military Cemetery. Name: George Johnson. Birth Place: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 26 Sep 1918. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Stratford, East London. Rank: Sergeant. Regiment: Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery. Number: 70964. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Name: ROBEY, CHARLES. Rank: Serjeant. Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery. Unit Text: "B" Bty. 117th Bde. Age: 31. Date of Death: 26/09/1918. Service No: 70964. Additional information: Son of Wilhelmina Robey, of 58, Eden Rd., Walthamstow, London, and the late George Austin Robey. Born at Leytonstone, London. Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. A. 11. Cemetery: Ste. Emilie Valley Cemetery, Villers Faucon. Possibly confused with:- Name: JOHNSON, GEORGE EDWARD. Rank: Corporal. Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery. Unit Text: "A" Bty. 310th Bde. Age: 30. Date of Death: 10/10/1918. Service No: 49787. Additional information: Husband of Annie Johnson, of 50, Balmoral Rd., Westcliff-on-Sea, Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: XVI. D. 6. Cemetery: Grevillers British Cemetery Name: KING, HERBERT JOHN. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Royal Fusiliers. Unit Text: 3rd Bn. Age: 21. Date of Death: 22/05/1917.Service No: 9893. Additional information: Son of Charles and Emily King, of The Common, Thundersley, Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. H. 9. Cemetery: Struma Military Cemetery. Name: Herbert John King. Residence: Thundersley. Death Date: 22 May 1917. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Hounslow. Rank: Private. Regiment: Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment). Battalion: 3rd Battalion. Number: 9893. Type of Casualty: Died of wounds. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Name: LAMBERT, FREDERICK CHARLES. Rank: Serjeant. Regiment/Service: Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry. Unit Text: 1st Bn. Age: 34. Date of Death: 23/07/1916. Service No: 6321. Additional information: Son of Mrs. Alice Rimington, of Common Lane, Thundersley, Essex; husband of Maud Lydia Lambert, of 58, Sumner Rd., Croydon, London. Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 6 B. Memorial: Thiepval Memorial. Name: LEWIS, CHARLES. Rank: Corporal. Regiment/Service: West Yorkshire Regiment (Prince of Wales's Own). Unit Text: 8th Bn. formerly 3rd Bn. Age: 19. Date of Death: 01/09/1918. Service No: 20578. Awards: M M Additional information: Son of Charles and Louisa Lewis, of "De Bligny," Catherine Rd., Thundersley, Essex. Born at West Ham, London. Grave/Memorial Reference: III. K. 25. Cemetery: Vaulx Hill Cemetery Name: MONK. Initials: E. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Yorkshire Regiment. Unit Text: 17th Bn. Secondary Regiment: Labour Corps. Secondary Unit Text: transf. to (427288) Age: 37. Date of Death: 20/02/1919. Service No: 40714. Additional information: Husband of the late Alice Monk. Grave/Memorial Reference: West of Church. Cemetery: Thundersley (St. Peter) Churchyard. Name: MOSS, REGINALD BERTRAM. Rank: Lance Serjeant. Regiment/Service: Durham Light Infantry. Unit Text: 1st/6th Bn. Secondary Regiment: Essex Regiment. Secondary Unit Text: formerly (4557) 2nd/6th Bn. Age: 22. Date of Death: 01/10/1916. Service No: 7095 Additional information: Son of Edwin John and Mary Louisa Moss, of Triangle, Daws Heath, Thundersley, Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 14 A and 15 C. Memorial: Thiepval Memorial. Name: MURRAY, JAMES. Rank: Corporal. Regiment/Service: Essex Regiment. Unit Text: 5th Bn. Date of Death: 26/03/1917. Service No: 251339. Grave/Memorial Reference: Panels 33 to 39. Memorial: Jerusalem Memorial. Name: James Murray. Birth Place: Thundersley, Essex. Residence: Bulphan, Fen, Essex. Death Date: 26 Mar 1917. Death Location: Palestine. Enlistment Location: Stratford, Essex. Rank: Corporal. Regiment: Essex Regiment. Battalion: 5th Battalion. Number: 251339. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Egyptian Theatre. Name: PACKMAN, THOMAS LEONARD. Rank: Petty Officer Stoker. Regiment/Service: Royal Navy. Unit Text: H.M.S. "Strongbow." Age: 34. Date of Death: 17/10/1917. Service No: 308401. Additional information: Son of Henry and Mary Packman, of Canvey Island, Essex; husband of Elizabeth Packman, of 1, Beach Court, Whitefriars Crescent, Westcliff-on-Sea, Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: 23. Memorial: Chatham Naval Memorial. Name: PAGRAM, CLAUD GRANVILLE. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Royal Fusiliers. Unit Text: 3rd Bn. Age: 18. Date of Death: 08/05/1915. Service No: 9902. Additional information: Son of Albert E. and Eliza A. Pagram, of Truitt Lodge, Thundersley Common, Southend-on-Sea. Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 6 and 8. Memorial: Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial. Name: Claud Granvill Pagram. Birth Place: Finsbury Park. Residence: Thundersley. Death Date: 22 May 1915. Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Southend. Rank: Private. Regiment: Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment). Battalion: 3rd Battalion. Number: 9902 Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. (NOTE: The family grave in St Peters, Thundersley has an inscription showing Annie Packham and Albert Edward Packham with inscription to Claude Granville Packham, 3rd Bn Royal Fusiliers, killed in action 8th May 1915 at Ypres aged 18. The inscription may have been incorrectly transcribed). Name: PEAKE, WILLIAM HADWEN. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Royal Fusiliers. Unit Text: 24th Bn. Date of Death: 31/07/1916. Service No: SP/2230. Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 8 C 9 A and 16 A. Memorial: Thiepval Memorial Name: William Hadwen Peake. Birth Place: Atherton, Lancs. Residence: Thundersley. Death Date: 31 Jul 1916. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Southend. Rank: Private. Regiment: Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment). Battalion: 24th Battalion. Number: SP/2230 Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Name: PHILLIPS, GEORGE FRANCIS. Rank: Gunner (Signaller). Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery. Unit Text: 62nd Bde. Age: 20. Date of Death: 17/04/1917. Service No: 68930. Additional information: Only son of Frank and Alice Mary Phillips, of 13, New Quebec Street, Marble Arch, London. Native of Thundersley, Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: III. B. 11. Cemetery: Tilloy British Cemetery, Tilloy les Mofflaines. Name: POND, ARTHUR EDWIN. Rank: Lance Corporal. Regiment/Service: Essex Regiment. Unit Text: "D" Coy. 9th Bn. Age: 25. Date of Death: 13/10/1915. Service No: 14427. Additional information: Son of Alfred and Alice Pond, of Hilltop, Church Rd., Thundersley, Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 85 to 87. Memorial: Loos Memorial. Name: Arthur Edwin Pond. Birth Place: Holloway, Middlesex. Residence: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 13 Oct 1915. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Southend on Sea. Rank: L/Corporal. Regiment: Essex Regiment. Battalion: 9th Battalion Number: 14427. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Name: POND, FREDRICK CHARLES. Rank: Rifleman. Regiment/Service: King's Royal Rifle Corps. Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Age: 19. Date of Death: 10/11/1917. Service No: A/201961. Additional information: Son of Alfred T. and Alice Pond, of "Hilltop," Church Rd., Thundersley. Born Upper Holloway, London. Grave/Memorial Reference: III. B. 11. Cemetery: Duhallow A.D.S. Cemetery Name: Frederick Charles Pond. Birth Place: South Tottenham, Middx.. Residence: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 10 Nov 1917. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Grove Park, Middx. Rank: Rifleman. Regiment: King's Royal Rifle Corps. Battalion: 2nd Battalion. Number: A/201961. Type of Casualty: Died of wounds. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Comments: Formerly M/299504, R.A.S.C. Tr/13/52932, 16th Training Battalion. Name: RICHARDS. Initials: J H. Rank: Gunner. Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery. Date of Death: 24/04/1918. Service No: 169192 Grave/Memorial Reference: In North-East Corner. Cemetery: Thundersley (St. Peter) Churchyard. Name: RIVERS, BERT. Rank: Serjeant. Regiment/Service: Essex Regiment. Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Date of Death: 23/10/1916. Service No: 8896 Additional information: Husband of Annie Agnes Rivers, of 64, Queen's Rd., Brentwood, Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 10 D. Memorial: Thiepval Memorial. Name: Bert Rivers. Birth Place: Thundersley, Essex. Residence: Hornchurch, Essex. Death Date: 23 Oct 1916. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Warley, Essex. Rank: A/Sergeant. Regiment: Essex Regiment. Battalion: 2nd Battalion. Number: 8896. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Name: RIVERS, DAVID HENRY. Rank: Lance Corporal. Regiment/Service: Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry. Unit Text: 1st Bn. Date of Death: 18/04/1917. Service No: 15158. Grave/Memorial Reference: Bay 6. Memorial: Arras Memorial. (The only D.H. initials in CWGC Database, no obvious link to Bert Rivers. The 1901 Census has Walter Rivers, Head; Ellen Rivers (wife), Marrian aged 13, Edna aged 12, Berta aged 11, .Albert aged 9, Earnest aged 7, Percy aged 6, and David aged 3. Living at 123, Hart Road, Thundersley. Possibly the family did not complete the Final Verification Form details, whereas Bert’s wife did). Name: RIVERS. Initials: P H. Rank: Sapper. Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers. Unit Text: 54th Field Coy. Date of Death: 04/12/1915. Service No: 36527. Grave/Memorial Reference: III. G. 22. Cemetery: Etaples Military Cemetery (The only P.H. initials in CWGC Database, no obvious link to Bert Rivers. The 1901 Census has Walter Rivers, Head; Ellen Rivers (wife), Marrian aged 13, Edna aged 12, Berta aged 11, .Albert aged 9, Earnest aged 7, Percy aged 6, and David aged 3. Living at 123, Hart Road, Thundersley. Possibly the family did not complete the Final Verification Form details, whereas Bert’s wife did). Name: RUSSELL, ERIC. Nationality: New Zealand. Rank: Serjeant. Regiment/Service: Auckland Regiment, N.Z.E.F. Unit Text: 16th Waikato Coy. 2nd Bn. Age: 22. Date of Death: 30/09/1918. Service No: 12/3147. Additional information: Son of James Scott Russell and Violet Foulis Russell, of "The Chase," Thundersley, Essex, England. Native of Peebles, Scotland. Grave/Memorial Reference: II. A. 6. Cemetery: Marcoing British Cemetery. Name: SARGENT, SAMUEL. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: York and Lancaster Regiment. Unit Text: 13th Bn. Age: 19. Date of Death:12/04/1918. Service No: 33980. Additional information: Son of Eliza Sargent, of 7, The Avenue, Kiln Rd., Thundersley, Essex, and the late Samuel Sargent. Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 8. Memorial: Ploegsteert Memorial. Name: Samuel Sargent. Birth Place: Rawreth, Essex. Residence: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 12 Apr 1918. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Warley, Essex. Rank: Private. Regiment: York and Lancaster Regiment. Battalion: 13th (Service) (1st Barnsley) Battalion. Number: 33980. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Name: SAWARD. Initials: B L. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Queen's Own (Royal West Kent Regiment). Unit Text: 6th Bn. Age: 21. Date of Death: 15/01/1918. Service No: G/9069. Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. Saward, of Church Rd., Thundersley, Southend-on-Sea. Grave/Memorial Reference: I. B. 4. Cemetery: Croix du Bac British Cemetery, Steenwerck. NOTE: Pension Records for brother Ernest, born 7th August 1897(?), a grocers assistant, enlisted when 18 at Southend on 11th August 1915. L/16107 but discharged after 59 days as underage. Name: SCUDDER. Initials: W. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Grenadier Guards. Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Date of Death: 27/08/1918. Service No: 26623 Grave/Memorial Reference: V. C. 14. Cemetery: Mory Abbey Military Cemetery, Mory Name: William Scudder. Birth Place: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 27 Aug 1918. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Southend. Rank: Guardsman. Regiment: Grenadier Guards. Battalion: 2nd Battalion. Number: 26623. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Name: SMITH. Initials: E A. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: South Wales Borderers. Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Date of Death: 04/06/1917. Service No: 40770. Additional information: Son of Mr. W. Smith, of Prospect House, Daws Heath, Thundersley, Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. F. 3. Cemetery: Duisans British Cemetery, Etrun. Name: SMITH, PERCY LEWIS. Rank: Airman 2nd Class. Regiment/Service: Royal Flying Corps. Unit Text: 111th Sqdn. Age: 22. Date of Death: 03/12/1917. Service No: 49720. Additional information: Son of Mrs. M. A. Smith, of Gusted Hall Cottage, Hockley, Essex. Born at Hadleigh, Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: XXXII. A. 11. Cemetery: Gaza War Cemetery. Name: STRIBBLING, J. (Only 2 StriBBling entries, neither are a “J”. This is closest, but no obvious Thundersley connection). Name: STRIBLING, JOHN. Rank: Driver. Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery. Unit Text: 66th Bty. 4th Bde. Date of Death: 31/05/1916. Service No: 12090. Additional information: Son of Mrs. Elizabeth Stribling, of 62, Boundary Rd., Wood Green, London. Grave/Memorial Reference: XVIII. L. 4. Cemetery: Amara War Cemetery. Name: SWAN, HENRY GEORGE. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Essex Regiment. Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Age: 23. Date of Death: 22/11/1914. Service No: 10028. Additional information: Son of Walter and Ellen Swan. Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 7. Memorial: Ploegsteert Memorial. Name: Henry George Swan. Birth Place: Pitsea, Essex. Residence: Langdon Hills, Essex. Death Date: 22 Nov 1914. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Warley, Essex. Rank: Private. Regiment: Essex Regiment. Battalion: 2nd Battalion. Number: 10028. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Name: THEOBALD. Initials: S J. Rank: Gunner. Regiment/Service: Royal Garrison Artillery. Unit Text: 6th Siege Bty. Age: 38. Date of Death: 31/07/1917. Service No: 144721. Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. Theobald; husband of Mrs. S. E. Fuller (formerly Theobald), of Hart Rd., Thundersley, Essex. Born at Thundersley, Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: VIII. E. 21. Cemetery: Cite Bonjean Military Cemetery Armentieres. Name: Samuel James Theobald. Birth Place: South Benfleet, Essex. Residence: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 31 Jul 1917. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Southend, Essex. Rank: Gunner. Regiment: Royal Garrison Artillery. Number: 144721 Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Name: TODD, JOHN. Rank: Lance Corporal. Regiment/Service: The Loyal North Lancashire Regiment. Unit Text: "A" Coy. 10th Bn. Age: 23. Date of Death: 11/04/1917. Service No: 33932. Additional information: Son of C. W. and Jane Todd, of "Stirling," Bradley Avenue, Thundersley. Grave/Memorial Reference: Bay 7. Memorial: Arras Memorial Name: John Todd. Birth Place: Southampton, Hants. Residence: Thundersley, Essex. Death Date: 11 Apr 1917. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Chisledon, Wilts. Rank: L/Corporal. Regiment: Loyal North Lancashire Regiment. Battalion: 10th Battalion. Number: 33932 Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Comments: Formerly 11512, Army Cyclist Corps. Name: TUFFS, FREDERICK ERNEST. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Royal Fusiliers. Unit Text: 8th Bn. Date of Death: 01/07/1916. Service No: 21462. Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 8 C 9 A and 16 A. Memorial: Thiepval Memorial. Name: Frederick Ernest Tuffs. Birth Place: Diss, Norfolk. Residence: Thundersley. Death Date: 1 Jul 1916. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Southend. Rank: Private. Regiment: Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment). Battalion: 8th Battalion. Number: 21462 Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Name: WATTS, ALFRED. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: The Buffs (East Kent Regiment). Unit Text: 7th Bn. Age: 28. Date of Death: 04/08/1917. Service No: G/13257. Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. Frederick Watts, of Gooses Cottage, Rawreth, Battlesbridge, Essex; husband of Mary J. Watts, of 25, Sea View Rd., Shoeburyness. Grave/Memorial Reference: Enclosure No.4 IX. B. 12. Cemetery: Bedford House Cemetery. Name: Alfred Watts. Birth Place: Thundersley, Essex Residence: Shoeburyness, Essex. Death Date: 4 Mar 1917. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Southend, Essex. Rank: Private. Regiment: Buffs (East Kent Regiment) Battalion:7th Battalion. Number: G/13257. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Name: WEBB, HENRY. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Northamptonshire Regiment. Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Age: 20. Date of Death: 27/05/1918. Service No: 32145. Additional information: Son of Henry and Ada Webb, of Wharf Rd., Fobbing, Stanford-le-Hope. Memorial: Soissons Memorial. Name: Henry Webb. Birth Place: Thundersley, Essex Death Date: 27 May 1918. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Grays, Essex. Rank: Private. Regiment: Northamptonshire Regiment. Battalion: 2nd Battalion. Number: 32145. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Name: WHEELER. Initials: C H. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Essex Regiment. Unit Text: 10th Bn. Date of Death: 19/04/1916. Service No: 18714. Grave/Memorial Reference: II. D. 12. Cemetery: Cerisy Gailly Military Cemetery. Name: Cecil Henry Wheeler. Birth Place: Colchester. Residence: Colchester. Death Date: 19 Apr 1916. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Colchester. Rank: Private. Regiment: Essex Regiment. Battalion: 10th Battalion. Number: 18714. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Name: WHEELER, FREDERICK COLLIN. Rank: Private. Regiment/Service: Royal Fusiliers. Unit Text: 26th Bn. Age: 22. Date of Death: 18/09/1916. Service No: 20201. Additional information: Son of Harry and Sarah Wheeler, of 10, Studds Lane, Mile End, Colchester. Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 8 C 9 A and 16 A. Memorial: Thiepval Memorial. Name: Frederick Collier Wheeler. Birth Place: Milland, Colchester. Residence: Colchester. Death Date: 18 Sep 1916. Death Location: France & Flanders. Enlistment Location: Guildford. Rank: Private. Regiment: Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment). Battalion: 26th Battalion. Number: 20201. Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Name: WHITE, PHILLIP. Rank: Corporal. Regiment/Service: Essex Regiment. Unit Text: 1st Bn. Age: 32. Date of Death: 08/11/1918. Service No: 10554. Additional information: Son of Phillip and Maria White, of Woodlandside, Thundersley, Essex. Grave/Memorial Reference: I. A. 19. Cemetery: Caudry British Cemetery. So, help on the Carters, Hopwood and some of the inconsistencies would be appreciated..... TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 16 March , 2011 Share Posted 16 March , 2011 I thought i'd cracked Hopwood when I found 10312 Frederick William Hopwood AVC of Common Lane, Thundersley. However, he was discharged in 1919 and there are no likely deaths post war on the BMD. There is a Frederick Hopwood, aged 4, in Thundersley on the 1901 census. He is a visitor, but I can't quite work out the household set-up. http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1901&indiv=try&h=9718109 One of the casualties is the correct age, and has a mother called Mary with a different surname but that's probably pushing it even by Essex standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 16 March , 2011 Author Share Posted 16 March , 2011 Actually, on that Census page it shows the address as Hart Road, Thundersley, so he might be our lad.... just what did he do in the Army when he grew up?? I don't see him as becoming an officer, the Rifle Brigade, RFA, KLR and N Staffs have no apparent connection with Essex, so possibly the Yorkie, Berks or Queens RWS are left.... I've contacted St Peters Church to see if they can unravel some of the inconsistencies, but still haven't heard back from the guy behind the proposal. It'll probably need someone local to run to the newspaper archives, but I'm obviously very pleased with the progress you guys have given me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Woods Posted 16 March , 2011 Share Posted 16 March , 2011 Could this be your F Carter? Name:Frederick CarterBirth Place:Southchurch, EssexResidence:Hadleigh, EssexDeath Date:3 Sep 1916Death Location:France & FlandersEnlistment Location:Southend-On-Sea, EssexRank:RiflemanRegiment:Rifle Brigade (The Prince Consort's Own)Battalion:10th BattalionNumber:S/9242Type of Casualty:Killed in actionTheatre of War:Western European Theatre But no exact match on CWGC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fuller Posted 22 March , 2011 Share Posted 22 March , 2011 Re William Himpett, 7th Bedfordshires. There is a story of the battle he fell in here - http://www.bedfordregiment.org.uk/7thbn/7thbtnmarch1918.html By the end of the following day less than 200 of the Bn remained and William would have fallen along the Crozat Canal, photos and locations of which are in the story page. By the end of the battle, the entire Brigade was so small they formed a coposite battalion between them. I also have a photo of his name on the Pozieres memorial - a larger file size id also available off forum if useful to you. There does not seem to be a service record for him on ancestry so: His Medal Card tells of prior service in the Hertfordshire Rgt but this may be a red herring as entries for the two regiments by 1917 are often used interchangeably on such general documents, especially when related to the issue of Victory / BW Medals (as is the case here). The issue of the number 204480 seems to relate to January 1917 but there are many inconsistencies to numbers around that time, so perhaps use it as an indication but not a final fact! Sorry its not much but hope it helps to some degree! Best of luck Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 22 March , 2011 Author Share Posted 22 March , 2011 Steve, this is new to me, so obviously of interest. I still await the organiser of the War Memorial to contact me, I have asked the Echo to pass on my details and I've also asked St Peters for any info, especially on the two headstones which have inconstancies in their transcription to actual casualty details. They have the draft RoH of 105 Names, which is where I'm at currently, having exhausted my "skills" on CWGC and Ancestry for Thundersley links..... I'm only involved as I have an interest in RoH's and a quick scour turned up more than they guy said he had. Thanks everyone for your help, if it ensures that one overlooked chap is now properly remembered, then it's worth while doing. The file is too big to load onto here, so should anyone want to refer to it, please contact me and I can email it. It also includes the WW2 casualties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semele Posted 22 March , 2011 Share Posted 22 March , 2011 I did a search on the CWGC database with Thundersley as the Home Town and came up with quite a few names which aren't on your current list. I can probably export them to a spreadsheet. Where would you like me to email it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 22 March , 2011 Author Share Posted 22 March , 2011 Hi, Semele. I've used Geoff's Search Engine with Thundersley to produce those from the CWGC database, so I hopefully have them Click on my name on the left hand side of my post and send me an email. You may need to get to 5 posts, so one response gets you to 4. How many Names have you extracted from CWGC and I'll compare to how many I managed! I got 25 plus a Canada and a NZ hit, part of the 58 WW1 Names.and 47 for WW2. Appreciate the time you've taken, always good to have a double check!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semele Posted 22 March , 2011 Share Posted 22 March , 2011 Hello again. Sorry, yes, still getting used to all this. I managed to extract 66 names from CWGC with Thundersley. Let me know if that matches up with your records and if not, I'll send them to you (somehow). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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