RaySearching Posted 7 February , 2011 Share Posted 7 February , 2011 HiI have Been for the last 8 Months been researching the Names on the roll of Honour from St Barnabas Churchsome 101 names "and down to the last eight"I initially could not find this Man 2nd Lieu Albert Edward Forbes on sdgw or cwgc databases or anything about himso I put him aside for awhileI finally found him right under my nose on a local websitehaving gleaned the necessary information from the sitehere is the info I now have on himFORBES ALBERT EDWARD2nd Lieut. Albert Edward ForbesDurham Royal Garrison ArtilleryAlbert was the youngest son of Alderman John Forbes a Managing director of a Bakery and Jane Anne ForbesHe was a member of the Middlesbrough Town Council representing the Linthorpe Ward from 1910 - 1920. Albert resided at Bute House, Park Road, MiddlesbroughAlbert was educated at Middlesbrough High School, and later, at Guisborough Grammar School.Albert Trained to be a solicitor at the early age of 16 and was successful in becoming fully qualified at the age of twenty-one. Admitted April 1905 He practised in Middlesbrough, a member of Forbes and Nixon of 43 Albert Road, MiddlesbroughA Director of Middlesbrough Football Club his legal advice and experience proving very useful to his colleagues on the board.Albert was also a very enthusiastic amateur footballer and a member of the old boys club and played whenever the time from his rapidly expanding business allowed him toAlbert Can Be found on the 1911 census residing with his parents at The Beeches Marton Described as a SolicitorAlbert Married Hilda May Almgill in 1912 in MiddlesbroughAlbert Joined the Royal Field Artillery in Feb1917 and subsequently transferred to Royal Garrison Artillery he served in FranceHe died on 11th November 1920, It is reported as a result of illness from wounds he received whilst inactive service His Death falls within the qualifying date for inclusion for commemoration if his death can be found to be attributed to his war service , a possible non com ?cannot find ON CWGC OR SDGWHere is the Site which indicates Albert may have died through illness from wounds hereAlbert died in Newcastle aged 37 not localyHas anybody any further infomation or opinion is he definatly not on Cwgcbefore I apply for his Death CertificateHere Is his headstone no indication that he died from wounds on itRegards Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 7 February , 2011 Share Posted 7 February , 2011 Ray Nope, I can't find him either. Well worth getting the death certificate and seeing if it confirms a "died of wounds". If it does then he's a non-comm. If it doesnt, then he probably isnt. When you've got it, you may want to contact us through the In From The Cold Project website. We can then offer advice as to whether we think its worth a punt to CWGC. If so, we can submit it to them on your behalf through our existing procedures, refunding you the cost of the certificate. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 7 February , 2011 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2011 Update Death Cirtificate ordered will keep you posted Regards Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 12 February , 2011 Author Share Posted 12 February , 2011 Hi All Death certificate received in post today Looks like a none runner Cause of death From Certificate (1) Aortic Valve Disease (2) Cardiac dilation and failure Regards Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 12 February , 2011 Share Posted 12 February , 2011 Ray I agree that on the face of it this looks like a non-runner. However, perhaps you might be able sweet-talk a member visiting Kew to have a quick nosy at his service file to see if there's any mention of heart illness. (Any volunteers, readers?) John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin Posted 12 February , 2011 Share Posted 12 February , 2011 Ray He his also on the Middlesbrough war memorial wall at Albert Park. Dig deeper, have you been to the Teesside Archive to see if there hold anything on the Forbes Family? May be worth a punt. Good luck with this. Regards Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 12 February , 2011 Share Posted 12 February , 2011 " He died on 11th November 1920 as a result of illness from wounds caused during active service in World War One 1914 - 1918, when he served with the Durham Royal Artillery Garrison. " from Third link down HERE Is this the same man? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 12 February , 2011 Share Posted 12 February , 2011 Is this the same man? Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 12 February , 2011 Share Posted 12 February , 2011 Yep I should really read the whole thread before I post shouldn't I? Sorry Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 12 February , 2011 Share Posted 12 February , 2011 A mistake we all make from time to time, mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 12 February , 2011 Share Posted 12 February , 2011 A mistake we all make from time to time, mate. Thanks John. You're too kind. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 5 April , 2021 Share Posted 5 April , 2021 On 07/02/2011 at 11:47, RaySearching said: Hi I have Been for the last 8 Months been researching the Names on the roll of Honour from St Barnabas Church some 101 names "and down to the last eight" I initially could not find this Man 2nd Lieu Albert Edward Forbes on sdgw or cwgc databases or anything about him so I put him aside for awhile I finally found him right under my nose on a local website having gleaned the necessary information from the site here is the info I now have on himFORBES ALBERT EDWARD 2nd Lieut. Albert Edward Forbes Durham Royal Garrison Artillery Albert was the youngest son of Alderman John Forbes a Managing director of a Bakery and Jane Anne Forbes He was a member of the Middlesbrough Town Council representing the Linthorpe Ward from 1910 - 1920. Albert resided at Bute House, Park Road, Middlesbrough Albert was educated at Middlesbrough High School, and later, at Guisborough Grammar School. Albert Trained to be a solicitor at the early age of 16 and was successful in becoming fully qualified at the age of twenty-one. Admitted April 1905 He practised in Middlesbrough, a member of Forbes and Nixon of 43 Albert Road, Middlesbrough A Director of Middlesbrough Football Club his legal advice and experience proving very useful to his colleagues on the board. Albert was also a very enthusiastic amateur footballer and a member of the old boys club and played whenever the time from his rapidly expanding business allowed him to Albert Can Be found on the 1911 census residing with his parents at The Beeches Marton Described as a Solicitor Albert Married Hilda May Almgill in 1912 in Middlesbrough Albert Joined the Royal Field Artillery in Feb1917 and subsequently transferred to Royal Garrison Artillery he served in France He died on 11th November 1920, It is reported as a result of illness from wounds he received whilst in active service His Death falls within the qualifying date for inclusion for commemoration if his death can be found to be attributed to his war service , a possible non com ? cannot find ON CWGC OR SDGW Here is the Site which indicates Albert may have died through illness from wounds here Albert died in Newcastle aged 37 not localy Has anybody any further infomation or opinion is he definatly not on Cwgc before I apply for his Death Certificate Here Is his headstone no indication that he died from wounds on it Regards Ray I'm not sure if you are still pursuing this topic but it may be of interest to know that he lived in the house I live in now on Cambridge Road from 1912 after her married Hilda. In fact Hildas father built this house for them as a wedding gift ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC78 Posted 23 October , 2021 Share Posted 23 October , 2021 Can anyone find the officer's record for Forbes on the National Archives? The closest match I can find is this one, but can't be certain if it's correct: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C695000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 24 October , 2021 Share Posted 24 October , 2021 1 hour ago, PaulC78 said: Can anyone find the officer's record for Forbes on the National Archives? I went looking for a Medal Index Card to see if that shed any light on how his name might be recorded - but couldn't find an obvious candidate in the National Archive catalogue. As to the place of death the Probate Service has this in the 1921 Probate Calendar. Image courtesy https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=Forbes&yearOfDeath=1921&page=1#calendar His death was reported in many regional newspapers with this sample from the edition of the Newcastle Daily Chronicle dated 13 November 1920 being typical. Image courtesy FindMyPast. There is also a painting of him in Middlesbrough Town Hall. https://artuk.org/discover/artworks/albert-edward-forbes-second-lieutenant-19101920-57807 Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWARD1 Posted 24 October , 2021 Share Posted 24 October , 2021 (edited) He is buried in Linthorpe Cemetery in a rather imposing memorial to the Forbes and Almgill families ,which is next to the Cross of Sacrifice Edited 24 October , 2021 by EDWARD1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC78 Posted 14 November , 2021 Share Posted 14 November , 2021 On 24/10/2021 at 00:04, PaulC78 said: Can anyone find the officer's record for Forbes on the National Archives? The closest match I can find is this one, but can't be certain if it's correct: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C695000 The file I linked above turned out to be for 2/Lt Alexander Bruce Forbes who DoW on 29/10/1918. If anyone can find the correct file for Albert Edward Forbes then I'd be happy to look it up on a future visit to Kew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWARD1 Posted 15 November , 2021 Share Posted 15 November , 2021 Pension, MIC and Medal Roll for A.E Forbes RGA. The pension links the service No 173573 to the MIC & Medal Roll and also states widow as Hilda May (Almgill). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWARD1 Posted 15 November , 2021 Share Posted 15 November , 2021 When did he receive his commission? Have been unable to find in LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC78 Posted 15 November , 2021 Share Posted 15 November , 2021 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bolckow/3239382232 According to one of the comments he was commissioned after the armistice on 11 April 1919 (LG 24 April 1919). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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