Phil Evans Posted 29 January , 2011 Share Posted 29 January , 2011 I can’t find this man on CWGC despite trying numerous spellings etc: Frederick John HALLAMORE Gunner 79240 RGA (briefly with 238 Siege Battery) Pte 411157 Labour Corps (889 Area Employment Company) He was discharged under Para 392 (xvi) on the 15th July 1918, having been confined in Winchester Red Cross Hospital with TB. Being in the late stages, he was admitted, by his family to the Park Hospital, Hither Green, where he died on 30th July 1918. His record has survived in WO 364 (Pensions) and there are entries for him in Kelly’s (1912 and 1914) and the National Probate Calendar. Some-when between 1901 and 1911 census, the family moved from Forest Hill to Southend. According to his MIC, his widow was living in Broadstairs by 1923. His birth, marriage and death, are all on FreeBMD. His name appears on the Southend-on-Sea County Borough War Memorial, according to the Roll of Honour, Essex pages as Frederick J Hallmore. Is he on the IFCP waiting list? Thanks in advance, Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 30 January , 2011 Share Posted 30 January , 2011 Phil do you have a burial place at all. Can check Lewisham for you; however Southend is a no go area now Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Evans Posted 30 January , 2011 Author Share Posted 30 January , 2011 Chris, I only came across him by chance, while trying some wild card searches on FreeBMD for a patial name on the Lewisham Military Hospital Memorial. I believe the family came from Cornwall originally. His father worked in a bank and all the children were born in this area. I have no idea why they chose Hither Green Hospital for him to see out his last days. He doesn't come up on any of the Lewisham memorials. Please, by all means give Lewisham a try, when you get a chance. My hunch though is Southend. Looking around, North Road, Westcliff-on-sea, or Sutton Road, Southend. Presumably they charge a huge fee, no concessions. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 31 January , 2011 Share Posted 31 January , 2011 Phil Southend do not even answer my e mails Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 31 January , 2011 Share Posted 31 January , 2011 He's not in Sutton Road cemetery, Southend. Nothing on CWGC on either Service Number or 30th July 1918 Can't answer for St Johns or North Road (or elsewhere) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 31 January , 2011 Share Posted 31 January , 2011 Kevin do you have access to the records for Sutton Road? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 31 January , 2011 Share Posted 31 January , 2011 Phil Terry Denham holds the IFCP "waiting list". Best bet for checking is to contact us through the IFCP website - http://www.infromthecold.org/report_missing_casualty.asp. I suspect that, as it's a post discharge case, we won't have already come across it. Looks a knocking certainty for commemoration from what you've written. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Evans Posted 31 January , 2011 Author Share Posted 31 January , 2011 It's nice to see you've all been busy. Chris, We may have to look further afield. I've put up all the BMD entries for Hallamore post-1901 and it looks like the last one, (up to 1946, in the Southend area was the birth of Frederick's son, Douglas, in 1915. He appears to have retained an Essex connection throughout his life. Frederick's sister and parents are turning up in Croydon from 1917 onwards, when his father died. There are also outcrops of the name in Lewisham, Bromley and Hackney. I'll put together a family tree or two and see where it leads. Kevin, Thanks for double-checking for me and searching Sutton Road. It looks like you may have a friend for life. John, I'll drop Terry a line later to make sure I'm not doubling up. And congratulations on the book. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 31 January , 2011 Share Posted 31 January , 2011 Sorry, Chris, simply used the cemetery drop down list in Geoffs Search Engine and checked the various combinations of surname, Service Numbers and Units.... Used to live in Southend, so know of St Johns and North Road, but too small to feature in GSE... Just a thought, but would a death from TB be permitted to travel by train etc from Hither Green to Southend, or be buried nearer to Hither Green? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 31 January , 2011 Share Posted 31 January , 2011 No problems Kevin; just got myself very excited to think that someone had got access to Southend burial records. Have asked Lewisham for a grave search; failing that I shall try Croydon Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Evans Posted 31 January , 2011 Author Share Posted 31 January , 2011 Thank you Chris, here's hoping. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 1 February , 2011 Share Posted 1 February , 2011 Now at Lewisham so am trying Croydon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 1 February , 2011 Share Posted 1 February , 2011 The address shown in 1912 for FJ is "Trevose" Woodfield Road, near Belfairs Park... his father? Richard is in Baxter Avenue. Father seems to have been a bank manager in 1901 Census, FJ as a bank clerk. Perhaps father (and son?) moved to a bank in Southend, then retired and stayed in Southend. 1891 Census is wrongly shown as HallamAre.... If he was brought back for burial and doesn't show in CWGC records at Sutton Road, then either North Road as near Baxter Ave, or the North Leigh cemetery on London Road just opposite Flemming Avenue might be possible burial sites.... It's looking more like a Non Comm, though... An Alfred Hallamore, toy dealer, (brother?) is shown at 9, The Broadway, High Street, Bromley in 1913, which might be yet another possibility.... sorry, seem to be widening, not narrowing, this for you!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 1 February , 2011 Share Posted 1 February , 2011 Kevin cheers for those pointers. Unfortunately the problem with Southend is that they will not answer my enquiries Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGM Posted 1 February , 2011 Share Posted 1 February , 2011 If he does prove to be a definite non-commemoration I am happy to speak to Southend and explain his case and ask if I can visit to search the registers. It's an easy journey for me. Regards CGM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 1 February , 2011 Share Posted 1 February , 2011 Cheers for that CGM; have you had any previous contact with them Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGM Posted 1 February , 2011 Share Posted 1 February , 2011 No I haven't. I would phone, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 1 February , 2011 Share Posted 1 February , 2011 Phil Found him. Buried at Croydon Mitcham Road Cemetery It is a family grave; buried with him are Richard (buried 10/09/1917) & Florence E (buried 01/04/1920). Are you able to get there to take a picture of the grave? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Evans Posted 1 February , 2011 Author Share Posted 1 February , 2011 Chris, Well done. That's both his parents with him. 20 odd years ago I lived over that way. When I get my car back on the road I should be able to get over there one weekend. I'm not familiar with the cemetery, but I'm sure it has come up before, (probably one of your threads) and there is at least one member of the forum who is familiar with the layout, whose knowledge I can tap. I've responded to your PM. I've also contacted Terry and he has confirmed that Frederick is not on the IFCP books, so I'll send off for the DC. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Evans Posted 9 February , 2011 Author Share Posted 9 February , 2011 The DC arrived today and it looks like there is a good case: Registration District: Lewisham Sub-district: Lewisham in the County of London Date of Death: Thirtieth July 1918 Place of Death: Park Hospital Name: Frederick John Hallamore Sex: Male Age: 37 years Occupation: of 126 Alexandria Road, Southend on Sea; of no occupation; Ex-Private Labour Battalion Cause of Death: (i) Pulmonary Tuberculosis (ii) Laryngeal Tuberculosis. Certified by G. M. Thompson MB Informant: A. R. Hallamore. Widow of deceased. 17, Northampton Road, Addiscombe, Surrey. Date Registered: First August 1918 Registrar: Thomas Allan Belcham, Registrar Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 9 March , 2011 Share Posted 9 March , 2011 Phil have you submitted this case yet; courtesy of Judy we have grave photos. Sadly no headstone Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Evans Posted 9 March , 2011 Author Share Posted 9 March , 2011 Hello Chris, No I haven't submitted it yet. I've been waiting for a chance to get over to the cemetery. Unfortunately the hunt for Raymond Seaton Taylor's grave has taken up my limited spare time. If you could pass me on some details, I'll put it together ASAP as both of my current oustanding cases have recently got MoD acceptance. And a big thank you to Judy. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Evans Posted 27 April , 2011 Author Share Posted 27 April , 2011 Finally gone in the post today. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 15 June , 2012 Share Posted 15 June , 2012 HALLAMORE, FREDERICK JOHN Rank:Private Service No:411157 Date of Death:30/07/1918 Age:37 Regiment/Service:Labour Corps Grave ReferenceF2 Grave 9602 CemeteryCROYDON (MITCHAM ROAD) CEMETERY Additional Information: N.B. Recent research has shown that Private Hallamore is buried here. The Commission is in the process of producing a headstone to mark his grave. Commemoration Moved From UK BOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Evans Posted 25 June , 2012 Author Share Posted 25 June , 2012 Chris, Belated thanks on the update to Frederick's grave. I'd lost notifications of this thread due to the upgrade and have just stumbled on it by accident. CWGC didn't update me either. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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