The Prussian Posted 24 February , 2019 Share Posted 24 February , 2019 (edited) Hello! That question is not too easy... 16th divison was right. But there were both! The prussian and the bavarian! I attached two maps. The first shows the area July 30, 1917 an the second the same area from July 31 until September 19, 1917. We see, both division come into question. They are so close, that both could fight the Kiwis. 30.7.1917: 31.7.-19.9.1917: Edited 24 February , 2019 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Kyle Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 Thanks for the contribution sir. That helps, especially the maps. I will probably have a question or three about this when I take the time to look at the maps & consider things. Thanks, again. Cheers, Bryan Kyle in Taranaki, NZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Kyle Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 Is "NEUS." in the British line, New Zealand units? Cheers, Bryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 Hello Bryan! Yes. Neus. is the german abbreviation for Neuseeland. (as the germans write it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Kyle Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 And can I ask for the reference for the maps, please? In other words, where are the maps from? Thanks, in anticipation. PS - I will always ask for references ( if I can remember!), so don't be offended - its ...er......historical methodology. Cheers & thanks, Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Kyle Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 Can I also ask, is it possible for the second map - 31.7.-19.9.1917: - to show a bit further north please? By early August, NZ 3rd Brigade had taken over from the 3rd Australian. A map showing a little further north would be handy, please. PS - I have just joined the fedgrau-forum. Thanks you very much for mentioning that. It may work out to be very helpful. Cheers, Bryan And, great ! I have just been promoted !!!!!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Kyle Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 Can I ask what the German Army called La Basse-ville battle, please? Thanks, Bryan (this is so I can search on feldgrau-forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 Hello Bryan! I will answer this afternoon. I'm already at work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 Hello Bryan! The maps are from the official german recordings. "Der Weltkrieg 1914-1918", vol. 13: https://digi.landesbibliothek.at/viewer/resolver?urn=urn:nbn:at:AT-OOeLB-1155545 I attached the map with the british frontline July 31 - September 19 We didn´t have a special name for that battle. It belonged to the "Schlacht in Flandern" (Battle of Flanders) There were three parts of that battle: Part I: 27.5.-21.7.: Kampf um den Wytsschaetebogen und Vorbereitungskämpfe für die Sommerschlacht 1917 in Flandern (Battle for the Wytsschaete Arch and preparatory fights for the 1917 Summer Battle in Flanders) Part II: 22.7.-17.9.): Sommerschlacht 1917 in Flandern (summer battle 1917 in Flanders) Part III: 18.9.-3.12.: Herbstschlacht 1917 in Flandern (Autumn battle 1917 in Flanders) Great you joined our forum! Hope you like it. English language is no problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Kyle Posted 28 February , 2019 Share Posted 28 February , 2019 Awesome Thanks Andy. Much appreciated. Excellent information thank you. I'm looking forward to participating on feldgrau. Cheers, Bryan Kyle, NZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffMcN Posted 11 March , 2019 Share Posted 11 March , 2019 On 24/02/2019 at 16:26, Bryan Kyle said: La Bassee is not the same as La Basse-ville - different location, different battle. 100% sure of that. Agreed! They are about 30 kilometres apart. La Basse-Ville is a very small hamlet just outside Warneton, east of Messines, that back in the day had a sugar factory. La Bassee is east of Bethune. However, I am reliably informed that there have been more than a couple of battlefield tourists who have come unstuck on this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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