RodB Posted 9 January , 2011 Share Posted 9 January , 2011 The following two photographs of a 60-pounder and 25-cm minenwerfer are on Wikipedia, apparently outside a museum in Poland, but I've been unable to identify the museum. They appear very well preserved. Can anybody identify the museum ? Apparently the Polish army forcibly acquired the 60-pounder from the Russians - I assume the Russians got it from the allies during or after their intervention in the Russian Civil War ? Any suggestions the path by which the Polish army may have acquired the minenwerfer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ander11 Posted 9 January , 2011 Share Posted 9 January , 2011 Hello RobB it looks like its at the Polish Military museum in Warsaw .but not sure!!!! http://pygmywars.com...rsawmuseum.html If you send me a Pm I will send you another picture of the 60 pounder I hope this is useful Regards Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelfe Posted 10 January , 2011 Share Posted 10 January , 2011 I don't think they are outside a Museum, I think they had been taken from the museum for a parade or something, it very obvious from the photo that its not a permanent exhibit. There is (well in July last year) a 60-pr in the Military Museum in Warsaw and I think its the same one. I think the street is probably Krakowskie Przedmiescie, the guns are probably quite close to the presidential palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc2 Posted 10 January , 2011 Share Posted 10 January , 2011 I'm fascinated by the sign on the minenwerfer, which apparently says it is prohibited to fall off of the gun (not to climb on it).... Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 10 January , 2011 Share Posted 10 January , 2011 German (Rheinmetall) 25cm heavy Minenwerfer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwfwarsaw Posted 10 January , 2011 Share Posted 10 January , 2011 Greetings, The picture of the 60-pounder was taken opposite the corner of Nowy Swiat and Ordynacka in central Warsaw, and I'm pretty sure that the Minenwerfer was snapped a little further down the street (heading towards the Jerozolimskie crossroads). They were definitely not there for long, because I'd lived in Warsaw since 2006, go that way quite often, and have never seen them. I'd have plumped for them having been put out for August 15 (Assumption, and Army Day in memory of the Battle of Warsaw in 1920), but the clothes of the passersby ruined that idea. Even a zoom on the banners above the street didn't help me work out the timing. Maybe November 11 (independence day)? As to where they come from, I'd guess the nearby artillery and vehicle display outside the fine Polish Army Museum, which is on Jerozolimskie near the River Vistula( Muzeum Wojska Polskiego; http://www.muzeumwp.pl/) or else its branch at the Powsin Fort in southern Warsaw, the Polish Military Technology Museum (Muzeum Polskiej Techniki Wojskowej http://www.muzeumwp.pl/muzeum-polskiej-techniki-wojskowej.php ). I'll go and have a look when the weather's less unfriendly, and see if I can also establish when and where the Polish military got hold of them. Best regards, JWF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodB Posted 15 January , 2011 Author Share Posted 15 January , 2011 The weather, trees and people's clothing looks like early winter, so November 11 fits. The photos were originally uploaded to Wikipedia December 2008 but the uploader has dated them 2007. These two pieces are in the Warsaw Army Museum's collection, as identified by Ian's information and photographs on his website, so this could be a special outside exhibition as you say. regards RodB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelfe Posted 15 January , 2011 Share Posted 15 January , 2011 Incidentally, I think the 60-prs were among the artillery delivered by UK to Imperial Russia before the revolution. According to the MoM history 32 guns were supplied by August 1917. From an exhibited Fuze Indicator in the Prague military museum it's interesting to note that the instruments were specially made with Cyrillic script (apart from the maker's name!), the museum labelling is wrong but once you look at certain key features you realise what it is. Some of the English labels in the Warsaw museum are also 'interesting', generally being literal not actual UK or US terminology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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