Beery Posted 5 January , 2011 Share Posted 5 January , 2011 Hi folks, I'm trying to identify a relative of mine. As far as I know, this is a photo taken after WW1, about 1928, of my cousin William Wheelhouse of Sheffield, Yorkshire. The problem is, it may not be him - it could be a WW1-dated image of another relative. Also, I'm stumped by the cap badge - I can't make it out at all. It kind of looks like a light infantry bugle, but it just doesn't look right to me. The uniform itself doesn't seem to give anything away - no patches or anything that I can see. The puttees are wrapped infantry-fashion, but that's not really much to go on. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beery Posted 5 January , 2011 Author Share Posted 5 January , 2011 I've been looking at cap badges and I think I've got it. It looks like a KOYLI badge. Still not sure of the date yet - didn't they change the badge after the war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 5 January , 2011 Share Posted 5 January , 2011 KOYLI and Great War, I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 5 January , 2011 Share Posted 5 January , 2011 I would agree KOYLI. The buttons appear to be general service buttons, I would imagine that by 1928 they would be regimental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainfleet Posted 5 January , 2011 Share Posted 5 January , 2011 Almost certainly wartime, and probably around 1917. The B5 boots, certain features on the SD jacket, and the soft serge cap are all typical wartime manufacture. KOYLI, without any doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beery Posted 5 January , 2011 Author Share Posted 5 January , 2011 Thanks all. It looked to me like a wartime photo, but I couldn't be sure. This morning I noticed that he's wearing the soft version of the SD Cap (the 'trench cap) that came into use in 1916. Any idea when this style of cap went out of use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwp2007 Posted 6 January , 2011 Share Posted 6 January , 2011 just for comparison, here is a picture of my grandfather, 6 batt. KOYLI, taken in october 1917 on blighty leave, regards,John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm45 Posted 6 January , 2011 Share Posted 6 January , 2011 3 X Medal Index Cards to Wheelhouse and Yorkshire Light Infantry but none to a William...Have to agree its earlier than you think.If William never went overseas then no MIC. Ady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Hainsworth Posted 10 January , 2019 Share Posted 10 January , 2019 Hi My name is Alan Hainsworth related to the same family. William Wheelhouse was in the Navy and killed in an accident when the ship ran aground in fog near the Isles of Scilly. Ian Brett Cooper has done a lot of work on this and I am sure he would help you out if you need it. The fist picture is the Wheelhouse family at home in Sheffield and the Navy picture shows William front row third from left. He is buried at Gwithian Church, Gwithian Cornwall where his body was found. Ian Cooper has linked quite a lot of info to the Gwithian web sites. The photo of the shoulder looks to be Allan Greaves from another side (Hainsworth) of my family Regards Alan Hainsworth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 10 January , 2019 Share Posted 10 January , 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Alan Hainsworth said: Alan, this is a superb photograph thank you for posting, do you have any further information on it? I assume its related to William Wheelhouse? Regards Toby Edited 10 January , 2019 by Toby Brayley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Hainsworth Posted 10 January , 2019 Share Posted 10 January , 2019 Hi My name is Alan Hainsworth related to the same family. William Wheelhouse was in the Navy and killed in an accident when the ship ran aground in fog near the Isles of Scilly. Ian Brett Cooper has done a lot of work on this and I am sure he would help you out if you need it. The fist picture is the Wheelhouse family at home in Sheffield and the Navy picture shows William front row third from left. He is buried at Gwithian Church, Gwithian Cornwall where his body was found. Ian Cooper has linked quite a lot of info to the Gwithian web sites. The photo of the shoulder looks to be Allan Greaves from another side (Hainsworth) of my family Regards Alan Hainsworth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Hainsworth Posted 10 January , 2019 Share Posted 10 January , 2019 Hi Toby Great to hear from you. The navy picture shows William Wheelhouse on the front row third in. A lot of info is online researched by Ian Cooper:- https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=2ahUKEwjZ29ed2ePfAhV0tHEKHXDqDPwQFjACegQIARAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sheffieldsoldierww1.co.uk%2FYourSoldier%2FWheelhouse_W.html&usg=AOvVaw3f8wEJkB1cF9eIQO4gWCJf William was my fathers grandfathers brother. I have quite a lot of info on them if you would like to see it Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainfleet Posted 11 January , 2019 Share Posted 11 January , 2019 The medal index cards don't show an Allan or Alan Greaves in the KOYLI. He could have been Home Service only but they weren't supposed to be issued with the soft cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Hainsworth Posted 11 January , 2019 Share Posted 11 January , 2019 Hi Toby Great to hear from you. The navy picture shows William Wheelhouse on the front row third in. A lot of info is online researched by Ian Cooper:- https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=2ahUKEwjZ29ed2ePfAhV0tHEKHXDqDPwQFjACegQIARAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sheffieldsoldierww1.co.uk%2FYourSoldier%2FWheelhouse_W.html&usg=AOvVaw3f8wEJkB1cF9eIQO4gWCJf William was my fathers grandfathers brother. I have quite a lot of info on them if you would like to see it Alan Hi Must admit I am very new to this and did find this on Forces War reciords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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