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View of the 'trademark' machine gunners spade. Mostly seen in MG08 team period imagery but a nice collectors item nonetheless. 

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Great Group shot of the MGK.

 

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Does anyone know the date or even year when the 250 round German ammo belts went from 3 to 5 or 5 to 3 spacers?

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Nice array of 08/15s. Looks like a range practice or cleaning detail.  Probably cleaning due to the fatigues'.

 

 

 

 

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A cheaper alternative to the high price these guns now bring... One of a run of 15 guns made in Germany a few years ago. All steel construction, exact 1:1 scale with just a few slight differences between this and the original.

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superb moustaches!

 

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Nice view of an armourers 'shop'!!!!

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MG08/15's on the range. 

 

 

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Mark;

 

Could the large sidearms be the Mauser 96 ("Broomhandle" Mauser) in the optional wooden holster/stock? I don't think that I have even seen a photo of the holster/stock, at least not from the front.

 

My paternal grand-father was a Prussian Feuerwerk=Offizier  ("Explosives Officer", a technical officer) and seemingly a "gun nut" and my father said that the Mauser 96 was his favorite pistol. I have a studio photo taken of him in Russia in 1915 wearing one (and his sword), but not with a holster/stock.

 

I can see the logic of MG troops having the weapon, providing a light carbine in the case of close-up fighting. 

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Hello!

I have two C-96 photos

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Yes, that's it! The end of the narrow part of the wooden holster, which the front of the barrel slides into, has on the outside a clasp that locks to the rear of the receiver or handle below the hammer, when locked together you have a small carbine, of course capable of semi-automatic fire.

 

Am I right? This is from memory from years ago. But I have seen a C-96 lately, a friend in Philadelphia has one. Also a fully functional, fully documented Thompson sub-machine gun. (You Brits have been effectively disarmed. Better not go there.)

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I´m not a weapon specialist, but eher are some infos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_C96

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/de/mauser-c-96-e.html

http://askmisterscience.com/1896mauserbackup/index.html

 

Here is another nice holster. Probably a changed Reichs-Revolver Holster M79 for a pistol 04! Never seen before!

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Excellent photo! It looks like the C-96 is in a leather holster that is tied to a thin wooden stock, which is the same outline as the wooden stock that I believe also was made, that could carry the pistol inside.

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The photo in #64 shows a P.04 navy holster.  Attached is a photo taken from "Imperial Lugers and Their Accessories" by Jan C. Still.

 

Regards,

 

Michael.  

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On 2/27/2016 at 07:53, Mark Finneran said:

Interesting period paper article.

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Just noticed the picture and the caption. I think its writer was confused - the powder shown looks like flaked nitrocellulose-based powder to me. I've never seen black powder as described in the text in such regular square granulations, and of course it was not in normal use as a rifle-calibre propellant by either side in WW1.

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MikB are you suggesting that a journalist would write utter rubbish on a military subject and have absolutely no idea what he is talking about ?

 

Its amazing in some ways the more things change, the more that stays the same. 

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Thanks for the contributions on the 08/15 thread. Given the choice between an unwieldy rifle, standard luger or C96 it would not be a difficult choice for a German machine gunner. Great photos.  On a similar vein I have yet to find any formal evidence of German assault troops (again focussing on machine gunners) being trained in 'enemy' small arms. Period imagery of armourer schools/courses etc clearly show evidence of German machine gunners being taught on Allied LMGs/HMGs but what about in the assault and the array of weapons on the ground.  Does anyone have any evidence of the type of training undertook by these fine soldiers?

VMT

Mark

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Greetings, 

 

Thought I'd add this image of captured weapons to the thread.

 

V/r Lance

 

 

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add another capture

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On February 22, 2017 at 23:19, Mark Finneran said:

Thanks for the contributions on the 08/15 thread. Given the choice between an unwieldy rifle, standard luger or C96 it would not be a difficult choice for a German machine gunner. Great photos.  On a similar vein I have yet to find any formal evidence of German assault troops (again focussing on machine gunners) being trained in 'enemy' small arms. Period imagery of armourer schools/courses etc clearly show evidence of German machine gunners being taught on Allied LMGs/HMGs but what about in the assault and the array of weapons on the ground.  Does anyone have any evidence of the type of training undertook by these fine soldiers?

VMT

Mark

 

My father's flame storm company used the French Cauchault LMG as their 

standard MG. the Army allocated three MG 08/15s, but they wanted eight LMGs in their attacking formation. It was so light that it could be fired from the waist at the walk, hanging from the shoulder. 

 

If if you read German accounts, a MG unit might have, say, eight MG 08s, but might have perhaps three English or Russian MGs in reserve, in case of losses, or some other situation. Can't recall French. Were they more different? Germans used a lots of Beute. Artillery, tanks, rifles. 

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'Chauchat', Bob.  Regarding 'Beute' weapons, I have translated the MG inventories of numerous German units over the years and have encountered British, Russian and (on at least one occasion) Bulgarian Maxim-type MGs, plus, if I remember correctly, a few French heavy MGs, in the inventory of a reserve unit.  I presume the French guns (Hotchkiss?) were captured with sufficient ammunition to justify their retention for use in bolstering second or third line defence.  I wonder, in passing, though, whether, in addition to technical issues like ammunition supply, spare parts and familiarity with the weapon, captured French heavy MGs were less used because troops in the front line found it confusing or unsettling to hear French MGs firing from behind them.

 

 

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Apologies for all my PHOTOBUCKET imagery disappearing. The MG08/15 thread will be fixed asap ;)

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