Naval document

[yeovil]

Hi,

I recently acquired all the documents for my Grand uncle who was killed in Galipoli it included his next of kin wife etc on his sign up papers. My question is can I find similar records for my grandfather who was in the Royal Navy from 1903 - 1927. I have copies of his certificate of Service which includes all of the ships that he served on including HMS Dartmouth and TB 12.

[horatio2]

A name and official number would help to provide advice.

[KevinBattle]

Was one ship HMS Placenta?

[SiegeGunner]

Placentia, surely ...

[melliget]

Hi.

The service records for RN officers and ratings are available here:

Royal Naval Officers' Service Records

http://www.nationala...y=*&queryType=1

Registers of Seamen's Services

http://www.nationala...y=*&queryType=1

However it sounds as if you may already have your grandfather's service record. What you are looking for may not be online. The following lists all the naval records that the NA has online:

http://www.nationala...online/navy.asp

regards,

Martin

[yeovil]

Thomas Murphy born 1882 Monkstown Cork Offficial # 303 144..Joined in Cork Ships Goldfinch , Vivid , Mars, Esprigle, Vulcan, Leander, Mallard, King George V,Glorious, TB12,

discharged 1932. He was on HMS Dartmouth when it was torpedoed.. He was recommended for RFR what ever that means.

Thanks for any help....

[horatio2]

He was recommended for the Royal Fleet Reserve after discharge, which I assume was 1923, not 1932 when he would have been 50. The enlistment papers for this man have not survived.

[yeovil]

Thanks for the replies,

you are right, on the service record he was recommended for the Royal fleet reserve Devonport 14th Jan 1925, then it shows Drills every 2 years until his discharge 19th November 1932 at age 50. I am trying to find a name for his Mother, I know that his father Daniel Murphy born in Cork around 1850 was also either in the Navy or Mechant marine, his brother Daniel born 1851 Cork was also in the Merchant marine or Navy. It was rumoured that the mother died at childbirth, and the father had lost a leg in some kind of explosion. So it appears that the Naval history has been lost ? Any idea how I could get a name or some kind of history. I have a post card that I posted previously from my grandfather from Torpedo boat # 12 to his brother Daniel addressed to SS Mayflower, Ringaskiddy which is where Daniel lived till his death in 1963,

Regards cliver.

[horatio2]

There is a couple of Daniel Murphy entries born in 1850s CO.Cork here:-

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/search-results.asp?searchType=browserefine&mediaarray=*&first_date=&last_date=&CatID=15&pageCount=5&query=first%5Fname%3Ddaniel%7Clast%5Fname%3Dmurphy&queryType=1&pageNumber=3&sortSpec=first%5Fdate+desc

The primary purpose of naval records was to keep a record of the man himself, not his mum, dad, siblings and cousins - unless they were a nominated n.o.k. You need to search civil records for his parents etc. The only exception would be if he joined as a boy and needed parental/guardian's consent. Some such records have survived with enlistment papers but not in this case.

[horatio2]

His brother Daniel here? http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=6921658&queryType=1&resultcount=47

[David_Underdown]

Your best bet would probably now be the 1901 Census of Ireland, available free online at http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

[yeovil]

His brother Daniel here? http://www.nationala...&resultcount=47

Hi,

if I purchased this document what would it show me ?

[melliget]

if I purchased this document what would it show me ?

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/royal-navy-service.asp#discover

[Daithi]

Long shot I believe this may be a Murphy relative of mine

[Daithi]

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6941879

Could this be the same Murphy your looking for?