FROGSMILE Posted 28 December , 2021 Share Posted 28 December , 2021 8 minutes ago, Cockjock said: Here is a page from The SMCS magazine which might help. The star badge was also worn on the pipers cross belt. I have a blurred pic somewhere Aitch What are you referring to? Just now, Margaretnolan said: Thanks Frogsmile for your help on this. I did notice the wrist watches and was surprised to see so many in the one photo and had wondered about it. Might never decipher the number on the tape. Amongst my favourite photos though. Margaret Yes it’s a very fine photo. I expect you know the battalion’s basic movements from the LongLongTrail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaretnolan Posted 28 December , 2021 Share Posted 28 December , 2021 2 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: What are you referring to? Yes it’s a very fine photo. I expect you know the battalion’s basic movements from the LongLongTrail? Not yet..but I will. Just starting to catch up again..again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 28 December , 2021 Share Posted 28 December , 2021 1/6th (Rifle) Battalion August 1914 : in Princes Park Barracks, Liverpool. Part of Liverpool Brigade, West Lancashire Division. Moved to Upstreet Camp, Canterbury in Kent, to guard the London & Brighton South Coast Railway to Dover. 25 February 1915 : landed at Le Havre and transferred to 15th Brigade, 5th Division. 18 November 1915 : left Brigade and attached as Army Troops to Third Army. 26 January 1916 : transferred to 165th Brigade, 55th (West Lancashire) Division. 2/6th (Rifle) Battalion Formed in Liverpool on 10 September 1914 as a Second Line battalion. November 1914: moved to North Shire, Blackpool. February 1915: moved to Upstreet Camp, Canterbury to replace the 1/6th Battalion. March 1915: moved to billets at Cliftonville and became part of the Margate defences. 8 February 1915 : came under orders of 171st Brigade, 57th (2nd West Lancashire) Division. 14 February 1917 : landed in France. 3/6th (and 3/5th) Battalions Formed at Liverpool on 17 May 1915 but very soon moved to Weeton Camp near Blackpool. Early 1916: relocated to Oswestry and then remained there. 8 April 1916 : became 5th and 6th (Reserve) Battalions. 1 September 1916 : 6th absorbed into 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaretnolan Posted 28 December , 2021 Share Posted 28 December , 2021 1 hour ago, FROGSMILE said: 1/6th (Rifle) Battalion August 1914 : in Princes Park Barracks, Liverpool. Part of Liverpool Brigade, West Lancashire Division. Moved to Upstreet Camp, Canterbury in Kent, to guard the London & Brighton South Coast Railway to Dover. 25 February 1915 : landed at Le Havre and transferred to 15th Brigade, 5th Division. 18 November 1915 : left Brigade and attached as Army Troops to Third Army. 26 January 1916 : transferred to 165th Brigade, 55th (West Lancashire) Division. 2/6th (Rifle) Battalion Formed in Liverpool on 10 September 1914 as a Second Line battalion. November 1914: moved to North Shire, Blackpool. February 1915: moved to Upstreet Camp, Canterbury to replace the 1/6th Battalion. March 1915: moved to billets at Cliftonville and became part of the Margate defences. 8 February 1915 : came under orders of 171st Brigade, 57th (2nd West Lancashire) Division. 14 February 1917 : landed in France. 3/6th (and 3/5th) Battalions Formed at Liverpool on 17 May 1915 but very soon moved to Weeton Camp near Blackpool. Early 1916: relocated to Oswestry and then remained there. 8 April 1916 : became 5th and 6th (Reserve) Battalions. 1 September 1916 : 6th absorbed into 5th. Once again, many thanks Margaret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 28 December , 2021 Share Posted 28 December , 2021 38 minutes ago, Margaretnolan said: Once again, many thanks Margaret I was / am intrigued as to whether the photo was at Canterbury, or Blackpool. At the moment my money is on the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapperwho Posted 1 January , 2022 Share Posted 1 January , 2022 I have been given this photo by my aunt. On the reverse it says to Mrs Lambert from her brother with Love. Can any one on the Forum glean anything from the photo. My aunt doesn't know anything about who it may be. Cheers Sapperwho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan24 Posted 1 January , 2022 Share Posted 1 January , 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, sapperwho said: I have been given this photo by my aunt. On the reverse it says to Mrs Lambert from her brother with Love. Can any one on the Forum glean anything from the photo. My aunt doesn't know anything about who it may be. Cheers Sapperwho Are you looking to name the brother or do you have his name already? Key here will be Mrs Lambert's maiden name. It's obviously a football team with '27 NF' written on the ball. The officers are wearing flaming grenade cap badges suggesting a fusilier regiment. To my mind Northumberland Fusiliers (Tyneside Irish)? Does any of that fit what you know so far? Edited 1 January , 2022 by Alan24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapperwho Posted 1 January , 2022 Share Posted 1 January , 2022 Hi Alan 24 I don't have the name of the brother or Mrs lamberts maiden name. I think it is 27 NF ( Northumberland Fusiliers) written on the ball, I posted the photo mainly just as a point of interest. Cheers Sapperwho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 1 January , 2022 Share Posted 1 January , 2022 (edited) Definitely Northumberland Fusiliers, whose officers OSDB cap badge was the same outline shape as the men’s, unlike the Inniskillings and Munsters. From the LLT: ”27th (Service) Battalion (4th Tyneside Irish) Formed at Newcastle, January 1915, by the Lord Mayor and City. June 1915 : came under orders of 103rd Brigade, 34th Division. Landed in France in January 1916. 10 August 1917 : amalgamated with 27th Bn to form 24/27th Battalion. 26 February 1918 : disbanded in France.” Edited 1 January , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan24 Posted 1 January , 2022 Share Posted 1 January , 2022 2 minutes ago, sapperwho said: Hi Alan 24 I don't have the name of the brother or Mrs lamberts maiden name. I think it is 27 NF ( Northumberland Fusiliers) written on the ball, I posted the photo mainly just as a point of interest. Cheers Sapperwho It might be worth seeking out the diary of 27NF to see if there is any mention of a football match where 27NF were champions. The photo looks to have been taken overseas probably France and Flanders and there is often notes in war diaries regarding Divisional or Brigade sports when units are out on rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 1 January , 2022 Share Posted 1 January , 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Alan24 said: It might be worth seeking out the diary of 27NF to see if there is any mention of a football match where 27NF were champions. The photo looks to have been taken overseas probably France and Flanders and there is often notes in war diaries regarding Divisional or Brigade sports when units are out on rest. It’s a company team, “?” Company I think (abbreviated Coy), and indicates that they are the battalion’s champion team. Unfortunately there’s a flaw on the photo that obscures which company is written on the ball. Edited 1 January , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapperwho Posted 1 January , 2022 Share Posted 1 January , 2022 Thanks for that Frogsmile. Cheers Sapperwho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 1 January , 2022 Share Posted 1 January , 2022 Just now, sapperwho said: Thanks for that Frogsmile. Cheers Sapperwho If you can use a magnifier on the original photo it will give a chance of ascertaining which company it is if you can see past the flaw. Linen testers are good for that purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan24 Posted 1 January , 2022 Share Posted 1 January , 2022 15 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: It’s a company team, “?” Company I think, and indicates that they are the battalion’s champion team. Yes, you could be right, much further down the league than I had assumed Initially. A full team here, in those days only one sub allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 1 January , 2022 Share Posted 1 January , 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Alan24 said: Yes, you could be right, much further down the league than I had assumed Initially. A full team here, in those days only one sub allowed. Yes it’s interesting to see the pride that could be demonstrated even at company level in an infantry battalion. It was common to have inter-company competitions that included a mixture of military skills and sports competitions, all intended to promote individual skill, teamwork, discipline and physical fitness. Edited 1 January , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 2 January , 2022 Share Posted 2 January , 2022 15 hours ago, Alan24 said: A full team here, in those days only one sub allowed. 1st Eleven and a replacement; no substitutes allowed for another 40 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan24 Posted 2 January , 2022 Share Posted 2 January , 2022 24 minutes ago, GWF1967 said: 1st Eleven and a replacement; no substitutes allowed for another 40 years. Thanks for the explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaretnolan Posted 2 January , 2022 Share Posted 2 January , 2022 (edited) Another one of my favourites. From my collection…. Margaret Edited 2 January , 2022 by Margaretnolan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 2 January , 2022 Share Posted 2 January , 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Margaretnolan said: Another one of my favourites. From my collection…. Margaret Another cracking photo Margaret, thank you for posting. I believe they’re Army Service Corps. I wonder what the MRU on the ball refers to. The only thing I could think of was Medical Rehabilitation Unit, but that’s just a complete guess. There seems to be a partially constructed hut in the background. Edited 2 January , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaretnolan Posted 3 January , 2022 Share Posted 3 January , 2022 Thanks Frogsmile. I had wondered what MRU stands for and where the picture was taken. Margaret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 3 January , 2022 Share Posted 3 January , 2022 4 hours ago, Margaretnolan said: Thanks Frogsmile. I had wondered what MRU stands for and where the picture was taken. Margaret Another possibility; The Army Service Corps had Mobile Repair Units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 3 January , 2022 Share Posted 3 January , 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, GWF1967 said: Another possibility; The Army Service Corps had Mobile Repair Units. Brilliant suggestion! That seems far more likely and I should have thought of it because I’ve definitely heard of them before. I think you’ve cracked it. Edited 3 January , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaretnolan Posted 3 January , 2022 Share Posted 3 January , 2022 (edited) @GWF1967 @FROGSMILE You’ve nailed it, thank you. And just clicked with me they were in Albert! 🤦♀️ Margaret Edited 3 January , 2022 by Margaretnolan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 3 January , 2022 Share Posted 3 January , 2022 29 minutes ago, Margaretnolan said: @GWF1967 @FROGSMILE You’ve nailed it, thank you. Margaret The mobile repair units were really important because then units didn't have to try and tow dead vehicles to a workshop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themonsstar Posted 6 January , 2022 Share Posted 6 January , 2022 An Officer or a Warrant Officer of the Labour Corps around 1921. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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