FROGSMILE Posted 19 January , 2020 Share Posted 19 January , 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Alisonmallen62 said: Thank you some of that I had considered because they looked to be in new uniform and shoes? As opposed to boots? I couldn’t quite make out the medal ribbon and again thought it likely but I didn’t know about the four chevrons and wondered about those. Really do learn so much each time I am on the forum so thanks again! I have been told about living out of a kit bag from family but not experienced it. Smiled about the date on back of postcard but you clearly didn’t need it 😊 You will pick these things up over time, as you already clearly are Alison, given your interest. They are wearing boots with puttees, rather than shoes. Their uniforms certainly are clean and tidy, but not necessarily new, although they are in noticeably good condition so it’s not possible to be certain. Edited 19 January , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 23 January , 2020 Share Posted 23 January , 2020 John Burton Howe, "My Uncle in the Gordons". B.1873 York. Enlisted. 1901. Pte. G/3726. Gordon Highlanders. Discharged medically unfit 8yrs 118 days - bullet wound, left knee. Re-Enlisted. 23/9/1914. Cpl. 7135. - France 23/2/1915. 2nd Batt. Gordon Highlanders. "Permanent Base" 1916. Old leg wound, bullet, left knee. Transferred - Labour Corps. A/Sgt. 602792. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 Unsent postcard of a Royal Marine Light Infantry Bedspace c1904. Superb detail here including; 1888 Equipment, P1888 Bayonet ( you can see unit markings on the Pommel), Magazine Lee Enfields and at least 9 Brodrick caps. The detail is so good you can even read the camel postcard and see the Globe and Laurel on his walking out cane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 "A Camel can go without a drink for eight days, who the devil (picture) wants to be a camel." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 (edited) Fantastic photos, Toby. Thank you for posting them. The glass plate development process cannot be beaten for that kind of detail, I think. Edited 24 January , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepoy Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: Fantastic photos, Toby. Thank you for posting them. The glass plate development process cannot be beaten for that kind of detail, I think. You are absolutely correct about glass plate photography, which I believe is due to the silver nitrate? content used in the process. In my view it has only been matched by recent improvements in digital photography. Modern "photoshop" is, however, far in advance of glass plate technology as can been seen in this example from my collection. Sepoy Edited 24 January , 2020 by Sepoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 2 minutes ago, Sepoy said: Modern "photoshop" is, however, far in advance of glass plate technology as can been seen in this example from my collection. Sepoy I do love that! Thank you for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 That’s a super example of the photographic manipulation efforts made at that time, Sepoy. I did not know that silver nitrate was the secret ingredient that made such a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 Silver nitrate is also used medically. 18 months ago I was hospitalized for 5 days with a massive hole in my leg due to an argument with a dropped paving slab. 2 inches across, an inch wide and best part of an inch deep ..... bone visible. 2 weeks with a vacuum pump, several months with Manuka honey dressing, an silver nitrate used to control the wound. Six months of weekly hospital mornings. No pain after first hour ..... honestly. Topical application of silver nitrate is often used in wound care to help remove and debride hypergranulation tissue or calloused rolled edges in wounds or ulcerations. ... Silver nitrate is a highly caustic material, so it must be used with caution to prevent damage to healthy tissues. Digression ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 (edited) Great postcard of the RMLI bed space! Interesting, I didn't know they wore the bugle as a collar badge, I thought they wore the globe and laurel badge, is it cloth? Chris Edited 24 January , 2020 by Dragoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Muerrisch said: Silver nitrate is also used medically. 18 months ago I was hospitalized for 5 days with a massive hole in my leg due to an argument with a dropped paving slab. 2 inches across, an inch wide and best part of an inch deep ..... bone visible. 2 weeks with a vacuum pump, several months with Manuka honey dressing, an silver nitrate used to control the wound. Six months of weekly hospital mornings. No pain after first hour ..... honestly. Topical application of silver nitrate is often used in wound care to help remove and debride hypergranulation tissue or calloused rolled edges in wounds or ulcerations. ... Silver nitrate is a highly caustic material, so it must be used with caution to prevent damage to healthy tissues. Digression ends. Thanks for the brief on silver nitrate. I’m glad to know that you’ve recovered now. Edited 24 January , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepoy Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 Muerrisch I must confess that post caused me to wince and I am not that squeamish! I am delighted that you have recovered and that it no longer interrupts your superb and detailed comments on the forum! Sepoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepoy Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 27 minutes ago, Dragoon said: Great postcard of the RMLI bed space! Interesting, I didn't know they wore the bugle as a collar badge, I thought they wore the globe and laurel badge, is it cloth? Chris I have had a quick look through all my RMLI photographs (ranging from from just after the Boer War to the 1920s) and they all appear to be wearing "Globe and Laurel" collar badges. I had missed the "Bugle" collar badges in Toby's photograph and would be interest to hear when this was used. Sepoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, Sepoy said: I have had a quick look through all my RMLI photographs (ranging from from just after the Boer War to the 1920s) and they all appear to be wearing "Globe and Laurel" collar badges. I had missed the "Bugle" collar badges in Toby's photograph and would be interest to hear when this was used. Sepoy A red, woven worsted bugle of German type (rather than the French curl) had been worn on blue RMLI frocks until I think the 1870s (I will check notes and report back), at which point it was replaced by the gilding metal globe and laurels, which had for a much longer period been used on shoulder straps. Edited 25 January , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 3 hours ago, FROGSMILE said: A red, woven worsted bugle of German type (rather than the French curl) had been worn on blue RMLI frocks until I think the 1870s (I will check notes and report back), at which point it was replaced by the gilding metal globe and laurels, which had for a much longer period been used on shoulder straps. I say this a lot on this forum, everyday is a school day! Cheers FROGSMILE Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 3 hours ago, Dragoon said: I say this a lot on this forum, everyday is a school day! Cheers FROGSMILE Chris Glad to help, see images above. The date of the change was later, in 1902. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepoy Posted 25 January , 2020 Share Posted 25 January , 2020 Frogsmile Thank you for the information about the RMLI Bugle collar badge. Sepoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 25 January , 2020 Share Posted 25 January , 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sepoy said: Frogsmile Thank you for the information about the RMLI Bugle collar badge. Sepoy Yes it’s interesting I think that both, the RMA and RMLI wore collar badges only on their blue serge working frocks, and both in woven worsted cloth. The RMA had yellow worsted grenades and the RMLI red worsted bugles as above. On full dress and scarlet frocks, the RMLI had the globe and laurels, again woven, on their shoulder straps. It wasn’t until the introduction of the 1902 pattern blue patrol frock, with pleated pockets on the chest (only), that gilding metal, globe and laurels badges, began to be worn. Edited 25 January , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepoy Posted 25 January , 2020 Share Posted 25 January , 2020 50 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: Yes it’s interesting I think that both, the RMA and RMLI wore collar badges only on their blue serge working frocks, and both in woven worsted cloth. The RMA had yellow worsted grenades and the RMLI red worsted bugles as above. On full dress and scarlet frocks, the RMLI had the globe and laurels, again woven, on their shoulder straps. To illustrate your comments here are some poor photographs of my Royal Marine Light Infantry Colour Sergeant's tunic, showing the woven "Globe and Laurel" on the shoulder straps. This full dress tunic is dated 1st May, 1907 and is named to PO 4365 Colour Sergeant Ernest Batchelor, RMLI who served from 1889 to 1923. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 25 January , 2020 Share Posted 25 January , 2020 You have kept it beautifully, thank you for sharing. I will need to check but I think that the gun barrel badge on his left sleeve indicates that he has received Naval gunnery training. This was done so that selected RMLI men could bolster RMA gun crews during sea service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted 25 January , 2020 Share Posted 25 January , 2020 3 hours ago, Sepoy said: To illustrate your comments here are some poor photographs of my Royal Marine Light Infantry Colour Sergeant's tunic, showing the woven "Globe and Laurel" on the shoulder straps. This full dress tunic is dated 1st May, 1907 and is named to PO 4365 Colour Sergeant Ernest Batchelor, RMLI who served from 1889 to 1923. Are they crossed kukris above the swords? May I ask why? Great tunic Sepoy! Thank you for sharing Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepoy Posted 25 January , 2020 Share Posted 25 January , 2020 5 minutes ago, Dragoon said: Are they crossed kukris above the swords? May I ask why? Great tunic Sepoy! Thank you for sharing Chris Thanks Chris The crossed swords are part of the RMLI's Colour Sergeant arm badge. The things just above them, that look like Kukris, are meant to be the bottom of a laurel scroll. Here is a photograph of this style RMLI Full dress Tunic being worn by a Colour Sergeant (not the same person) Sepoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted 25 January , 2020 Share Posted 25 January , 2020 2 minutes ago, Sepoy said: Thanks Chris The crossed swords are part of the RMLI's Colour Sergeant arm badge. The things just above them, that look like Kukris, are meant to be the bottom of a laurel scroll. Here is a photograph of this style RMLI Full dress Tunic being worn by a Colour Sergeant (not the same person) Sepoy Cheers Sepoy, I totally see it now, I know it's not now but they really do look like crossed Kukris. Thank you Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepoy Posted 25 January , 2020 Share Posted 25 January , 2020 10 minutes ago, Dragoon said: Cheers Sepoy, I totally see it now, I know it's not now but they really do look like crossed Kukris. Thank you Chris They certainly do look like Kukris! (Gosh all this talk of Kukris has me hankering for a Nepalese Curry, from our local superb Nepalese Restaurant!!!! They use crossed Kukris as their logo) Sepoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 25 January , 2020 Share Posted 25 January , 2020 1 hour ago, Dragoon said: Are they crossed kukris above the swords? May I ask why? Great tunic Sepoy! Thank you for sharing Chris No trace, absolutely no trace, of stitch marks, round the badges. Weird or brilliant craftsmanship or the photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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