Ilbury Welsh Posted 20 August , 2019 Share Posted 20 August , 2019 Excuse my ignorance, but what does the term "voided" mean as in the cap badges. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 20 August , 2019 Share Posted 20 August , 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Ilbury Welsh said: Excuse my ignorance, but what does the term "voided" mean as in the cap badges. John It refers to some part of the badge being cut out or fretted so that the details are separated to some degree. Such a process leaves holes or ‘voids’ in the badges. Sometimes this exposes a coloured backing. Edited 21 August , 2019 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilbury Welsh Posted 20 August , 2019 Share Posted 20 August , 2019 Many thanks Frogsmile, regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Abbott Posted 20 August , 2019 Share Posted 20 August , 2019 9 hours ago, FROGSMILE said: Pipers would have had plain glengarry caps as seen here, but most Royal Scots wore the diced version. The belt’s been made from plaited leather. The main leather work centre was at Kanpur (Cawnpore). The cap badge is similar to HLI, who wore plain green glengarry caps, but voided cap badges (if that’s what they are) militate against. .....I don't know when the practice first started, but the pipers of the Royal Scots didn't wear a voided cap badge but a solid one. It was similar/same as the pre-1890 cap badge of the 2nd battalion, who subsequently changed to a green backing, whereas the 1st battalion had red. The 2nd Battalion was in India (including Madras I believe) for many years in the 1890s and well into the 1900s, then the 1st Battalion went out and was there as of 1914. There are photos of pipers of both battalions (around that era) in the Royal Scots collection of bagpipe music, but it doesn't appear that the men in the postcard are in the photos. Of course there could have been changes or they may have been elsewhere. Certainly not definitive. Cap Badge does appear more Royal Scots than HLI in the photo above. However, I note that the 1st Bn. HLI were also in India prior to WW1...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddell Posted 21 August , 2019 Share Posted 21 August , 2019 Thanks Ron and Frogsmile for your thoughts on the postcard. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 21 August , 2019 Share Posted 21 August , 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Ron Abbott said: .....I don't know when the practice first started, but the pipers of the Royal Scots didn't wear a voided cap badge but a solid one. It was similar/same as the pre-1890 cap badge of the 2nd battalion, who subsequently changed to a green backing, whereas the 1st battalion had red. The 2nd Battalion was in India (including Madras I believe) for many years in the 1890s and well into the 1900s, then the 1st Battalion went out and was there as of 1914. There are photos of pipers of both battalions (around that era) in the Royal Scots collection of bagpipe music, but it doesn't appear that the men in the postcard are in the photos. Of course there could have been changes or they may have been elsewhere. Certainly not definitive. Cap Badge does appear more Royal Scots than HLI in the photo above. However, I note that the 1st Bn. HLI were also in India prior to WW1...... Interesting about the RS piper’s solid badges Ron. If the photo was taken during WW1 then I suppose it’s possible that the glengarry worn is the plain utility or simplified pattern that was issued for a period, especially if the unit is TF and sent out to replace a regular garrison. I’m not sure which RS battalions were deployed. Edited 21 August , 2019 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardenerbill Posted 25 August , 2019 Share Posted 25 August , 2019 Picked up this postcard at Deal Saturday market a few weeks ago, French or Belgian? Reverse is blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools mckenna Posted 25 August , 2019 Share Posted 25 August , 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gardenerbill said: Picked up this postcard at Deal Saturday market a few weeks ago, French or Belgian? Reverse is blank. I would say french as he has the 'Croix de Guerre', appears to have the 'Médaille militaire' and appears to have the french version of the victory medal. Edited 25 August , 2019 by Jools mckenna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardenerbill Posted 25 August , 2019 Share Posted 25 August , 2019 Thanks Jules I wonder what the 4th medal could be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWARD1 Posted 25 August , 2019 Share Posted 25 August , 2019 The 4th medal is Commemorative Medal of the Great War Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardenerbill Posted 25 August , 2019 Share Posted 25 August , 2019 Thanks Edward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardenerbill Posted 25 August , 2019 Share Posted 25 August , 2019 Does the 31 on the collar indicate 31e regiment d'infanterie de ligne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomb1302 Posted 25 August , 2019 Share Posted 25 August , 2019 (edited) @Gardenerbill, I can confirm for you he is French. See below the comparison of the 'Croix de Guerre' medal for both nations (Left is Belgian, right is French). I hope that helps somewhat. Edited 25 August , 2019 by Tomb1302 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardenerbill Posted 26 August , 2019 Share Posted 26 August , 2019 Thanks for the confirmation Tomb1302. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomb1302 Posted 27 August , 2019 Share Posted 27 August , 2019 (edited) Any German speakers able to read or translate this for me please? Thank you. Edited 27 August , 2019 by Tomb1302 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 27 August , 2019 Share Posted 27 August , 2019 Senders name is Alois Mrosek of IV. Minenwerfer-Bataillon, 1. Abt. He writes that the picture shows 1st section of his battalion and that he is among them. Asks his familiy members to spot him. Tells them he received parcel and letter from them and that he will send parcel and letter to them the following day. The familiy lives in Silesia. GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomb1302 Posted 27 August , 2019 Share Posted 27 August , 2019 3 hours ago, GreyC said: Senders name is Alois Mrosek of IV. Minenwerfer-Bataillon, 1. Abt. He writes that the picture shows 1st section of his battalion and that he is among them. Asks his familiy members to spot him. Tells them he received parcel and letter from them and that he will send parcel and letter to them the following day. The familiy lives in Silesia. GreyC As always GreyC, Thank you very much for helping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 27 August , 2019 Share Posted 27 August , 2019 (edited) I think Silesia is in Poland now, which seems to chime with his family name. That border was very fluid over the Centuries. Edited 27 August , 2019 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 27 August , 2019 Share Posted 27 August , 2019 Correct, GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef_Hendrix Posted 27 August , 2019 Share Posted 27 August , 2019 Here are 3 postcards and 1 photo (Dated 1944, but I thought interesting enough to include as it shows badges and a medal ribbon) I was gifted by my Aunties Mum. Unfortunately she has no idea who they are. I wasn't sure if the second photo was Great War, but it looks like (to me!) as possibly a military tent/camp in the background. 1. 2. 3. 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 28 August , 2019 Share Posted 28 August , 2019 (edited) Picture 1 a typical RN rating, but sadly without any view of his cap tally to show his ship. Picture 2 seems to be a young athlete at Summer Camp. He might be Territorial Army, but could also be one of many youth organisations. Picture 3 is a soldier during WW1 given his simplified pattern SD jacket. His glengarry badge is unclear, but reminiscent of the KOSB. Picture 4 shows a Gordon Highlanders Corporal of 51st Highland Division during WW2. I cannot make out his medal ribbon, but it looks like it might be the Africa Star, suggesting 8th Army. Edited 28 August , 2019 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyH Posted 28 August , 2019 Share Posted 28 August , 2019 (edited) Picked this up as of local interest. The card is postmarked:- 6.45 pm 2 SP 16, September? It is addressed to a Mrs.H.Smart in Alexandre Road, Wellingborough. The house, a typical terraced property in a long row of similar houses, still exists. The message reads 'Dear Wife, just a card hoping you are well. We are all three spending the afternoon at Bedford. Your loving Husband H.S.' The cap badge looks like Royal Engineers. Mike. Edited 28 August , 2019 by MikeyH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef_Hendrix Posted 28 August , 2019 Share Posted 28 August , 2019 5 hours ago, FROGSMILE said: Picture 1 a typical RN rating, but sadly without any view of his cap tally to show his ship. Picture 2 seems to be a young athlete at Summer Camp. He might be Territorial Army, but could also be one of many youth organisations. Picture 3 is a soldier during WW1 given his simplified pattern SD jacket. His glengarry badge is unclear, but reminiscent of the KOSB. Picture 4 shows a Gordon Highlanders Corporal of 51st Highland Division during WW2. I cannot make out his medal ribbon, but it looks like it might be the Africa Star, suggesting 8th Army. FROGSMILE, thank you once again for your input, it is much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 28 August , 2019 Share Posted 28 August , 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, MikeyH said: Picked this up as of local interest. The card is postmarked:- 6.45 pm 2 SP 16, September? It is addressed to a Mrs.H.Smart in Alexandre Road, Wellingborough. The house, a typical terraced property in a long row of similar houses, still exists. The message reads 'Dear Wife, just a card hoping you are well. We are all three spending the afternoon at Bedford. Your loving Husband H.S.' The cap badge looks like Royal Engineers. Mike. They are all RE drivers and thus probably from an RE Engineer Park, which was an temporary storage area for large stores for entrenching (think corrugated tin, pickets, supports, barbed wire and other trench stores) and bridging, where wagons for the carriage of such materiel were also gathered. Edited 28 August , 2019 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyH Posted 28 August , 2019 Share Posted 28 August , 2019 Frogsmile, Many thanks for your i.d. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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