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On ‎17‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 20:10, Toby Brayley said:

 

 

I don't think so,   just another "unique TF" style.  Most  seem to be wearing  VF/TF Piped Breeches, this is the latest I have seen them in use. 

 

Regards

Toby 

 

On ‎18‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 18:18, FROGSMILE said:

 

I agree with Toby.  It’s unusual to see so late on the piped  trousers that were designed to be worn with lace secured gaiters and so longer in the legs.  It would have made them a little awkward to wear with long puttees.

Two of the men are also wearing full dress tunics rather than undress frocks.

 

Thanks gents, it's always interesting to see TF variations.

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17 hours ago, munce said:

The cap and collar badges are very suggestive of the Suffolk Regiment, which would of course make sense for a Territorial Force camp happening at Felixstowe.

 

Thanks!  I looked into the Suffolk Regiment and I think your right.  What lets you know that it's a Territorial Force though?  Also are the uniforms a dress uniform?

 

Liam

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51 minutes ago, Liam Doherty said:

 

Thanks!  I looked into the Suffolk Regiment and I think your right.  What lets you know that it's a Territorial Force though?  Also are the uniforms a dress uniform?

 

Liam

 

Only someone in a Territorial unit would refer to being at "camp". You can just about see the extra tiers on some of the shoulder titles when the picture is magnified.

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2 hours ago, wainfleet said:

 

Only someone in a Territorial unit would refer to being at "camp". You can just about see the extra tiers on some of the shoulder titles when the picture is magnified.

 

Thanks!  Time to do some research.  This website and the people on it are fantastic.  

 

Liam

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2Lt. Harold Cater Conyers.

Died. 21/9/18.  2nd Gloucester/ Att. 8th Gloucester.

Formerley.

Pte. 30018. 2nd O.B.L.I.

Pte.. 38442. 1st R. Berks.

 

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21 hours ago, wainfleet said:

 

Only someone in a Territorial unit would refer to being at "camp". You can just about see the extra tiers on some of the shoulder titles when the picture is magnified.

 

The cap badge looks to be the 'open-looking' two-towered castle typical of the TF Suffolk cap badge.

 

cheers

 

Steve

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2 hours ago, SFayers said:

 

The cap badge looks to be the 'open-looking' two-towered castle typical of the TF Suffolk cap badge.

 

cheers

 

Steve

 

Thanks! I believe you are right.  After searching the internet, I found some photos of the same type of cap badge and collar badge.  These are not my photos, but I believe these are the two badges.

 

Liam

 

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"From Egypt;   Pte. Robert Walsh. 1781. 1/5th Lancs. Fus. Territorial. Wounded in Dardenelles"

 

42nd East Lancs Div.   Wounded 5/7/15.    K.i.A. 7/8/15.  Gallipoli. 

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12 hours ago, GWF1967 said:

"From Egypt;   Pte. Robert Walsh. 1781. 1/5th Lancs. Fus. Territorial. Wounded in Dardenelles"

42nd East Lancs Div.   Wounded 5/7/15.    K.i.A. 7/8/15.  Gallipoli. 

 

Great postcard photo he looks so young, so thanks for posting it. I guess about 18 or so. I have no note of his medals being for sale so perhaps still with the family. Another of my clansman never to see his homeland again. RIP John

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On 11/10/2017 at 11:54, Stoppage Drill said:

 

I appreciate that your comment is tongue-in-cheek, but it's worth remarking that some men in old group photographs often posed in such a way so as to show their "best side" or a handsome profile. 

The practice was much more common in Victorian times, declined in Edwardian days, and became quite rare by the Great War period.

 

Perhaps the Bombardier was old-fashioned in his ways !

 

Also the angle would demonstrate his stripes to best effect (never did that myself ...)

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On 11/8/2017 at 09:09, Toby Brayley said:

To follow on from yesterdays post. Here are some more of Harrys mates

 

 

Presumably 1st Duke's, who had the misfortune or good luck (depending on your point of view) to spend the war in India. Question, then - did the 1st Duke's use A - D Coys and the 2nd Battalion take the other end of the alphabet? Can't think why, otherwise, they don't use the battalion number in the captions.

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12 minutes ago, Steven Broomfield said:

 

Presumably 1st Duke's, who had the misfortune or good luck (depending on your point of view) to spend the war in India. Question, then - did the 1st Duke's use A - D Coys and the 2nd Battalion take the other end of the alphabet? Can't think why, otherwise, they don't use the battalion number in the captions.

 

2nb Bn DOWR  used ABCD.

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1. No1 Cook House 1918. Malta.  

R/H/End is Pte. Percy Foster. 16046. 7th Wiltshire Reg. Recovering from wounds.

 

2.R/H/S. Pte. Percy Foster 16046. and chum. 1918. Maidstone.

 

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Pte. Charles Bambury. 204304. Royal East Kent.(Buffs).  206187. Hampshire Reg.   574790. R.E. 

 

" Charlie, Fred and Lilley Bambury"    T-4-Buffs Shoulder title.

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On 26/11/2017 at 22:46, GWF1967 said:

R/H/S. Pte. Percy Foster 16046. and chum. 1918. Maidstone.

 

 

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A smart dresser with stiffener in soft cap, hooked collar, immaculately-fitting uniform and non-regulation private purchase boots.

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On 02/11/2017 at 22:33, FROGSMILE said:

 

Thanks Jay.  Kicking myself as I should have guessed Army Troops, the highest level at which command of functional and utilitarian specialist troops is exercised.  I imagine that there might have been some Corps Troops units too.

210 AT Company was actually 210 (Leeds) Field Company RE  raised for 31st Division.

 

TR

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Glasgow Highlanders (9th HLI) Bethune, 1915.

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Whlr. Cpl. T- 458 / Whlr S/Sgt.  T4-244858.   Frank Lowthian. -  450 Coy. - 42nd East Lancs. Div. Train  T.F.  A.S.C.   

  Alexandria. 1915

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On 11/30/2017 at 16:27, AmericanTommy said:

Glasgow Highlanders (9th HLI) Bethune, 1915.

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A number of these men have no badges on their glengarries.  A shortage of cap badges? 

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On 12/1/2017 at 22:10, gordon92 said:

A number of these men have no badges on their glengarries.  A shortage of cap badges? 

 

Most likely removal for front lines duties. This is noted by many of the Scottish soldiers entering the trenches when glens were still worn (late 14 early 15). Patrick Watt's history of the 4th Camerons has a nice bit about it.

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I'm interested in whether there is any significance that three of the 9/HLI men are wearing tam o' shanters (Balmorals?) rather than glengarries. I'm also unfamiliar with the subject - was this just 'one of those things' or did the two types of headgear have separate functions, or criteria for wearing? I gather the ToS replaced the glengarry, so perhaps the postcard here is just incidentally illustrating a stage in a piecemeal process. 

 

Cheers, Pat.

 

PS If this isn't the right place for this kind of uniform query I'll be delighted to remove, and subsequently to refrain.

 

 

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Around this time the Scottish regiments were phasing out the glengarry and bringing in balmoral style bonnets. These are like the Tam o Shanter, but much smaller and very similar to the current ToS being worn by the Royal Regiment of Scotland. They only lasted until early 1916 when the ToS was brought in. The bonnet was in the regimental pattern and was supposed to have a khaki covering over it for use in the trench, though many if not most were produced in khaki. On that note here is a member of the Black Watch I've got wearing one!

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And here is a driver of the Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) transport section wearing another!

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