MikeyH Posted 6 October , 2017 Share Posted 6 October , 2017 4 minutes ago, Gardenerbill said: The distinctive wheel on the lorry in post #4948 means it is most likely a Thorneycroft. You just beat me to it! Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardenerbill Posted 6 October , 2017 Share Posted 6 October , 2017 Just now, MikeyH said: You just beat me to it! Mike. You have to be quick on here! Others usually pip me at the post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Doherty Posted 6 October , 2017 Share Posted 6 October , 2017 I have here a postcard of whom I believe is a distant family member. Having just recently discovered this photo with some other old photos, I have no living relatives who can confirm for me though. I'm hoping someone here will be able to answer some questions about his uniform that might help me confirm his identity. I've tried to look up what the different badges (cap, collar) are and there are so many different ones I can't seem to find any that match his uniform. I also see that he has a badge on his arm that looks like it has a creature of some sort on it, but I have no idea what that means. Any help would be VERY much appreciated. Thanks. What I think is that his name is Thomas Roynon. His number is 304358. He was a member of the CEF and his attestation papers show he signed up in Toronto on Oct. 26 1915. I believe he was a member of the 9th Brigade Canadian Field Artillery. He is listed as Rank of Driver. Thanks, Liam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 6 October , 2017 Share Posted 6 October , 2017 (edited) He is in a specialist pioneer battalion (19th (Glamorgan) Pioneers) of the Welsh Regiment in the 38th Welsh Division, as the divisional pioneers. This is indicated by the special collar badge of crossed rifle and pick, regimental cap badge, and cloth divisional sign on his upper arm. Edited 6 October , 2017 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Doherty Posted 6 October , 2017 Share Posted 6 October , 2017 1 hour ago, FROGSMILE said: He is in a specialist pioneer battalion (19th (Glamorgan Pioneers) of the Welsh Regiment in the 38th Welsh Division, as the divisional pioneers. This is indicated by the special collar badge of crossed rifle and pick, regimental cap badge, and cloth divisional sign on his upper arm. Wow, thanks! This I think means that he's not who I though he was. Interesting. Two steps forward, one step back. Liam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark holden Posted 6 October , 2017 Share Posted 6 October , 2017 WRAF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 6 October , 2017 Share Posted 6 October , 2017 Those girls were having the time of their lives. For the most part, after the war, it was back to the kitchen sink. War as an engine for social change, albeit tortuously slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyH Posted 7 October , 2017 Share Posted 7 October , 2017 In this oddly faded postcard image eight soldiers face the camera with their rifles neatly stacked. Can anyone suggest a regiment? The cap badges seem almost round, am unable to find a possible match. The bayonets pictured are of the P1888 pattern and the rifles are C.L.L.E.'s Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 7 October , 2017 Share Posted 7 October , 2017 17 minutes ago, MikeyH said: In this oddly faded postcard image eight soldiers face the camera with their rifles neatly stacked. Can anyone suggest a regiment? The cap badges seem almost round, am unable to find a possible match. The bayonets pictured are of the P1888 pattern and the rifles are C.L.L.E.'s Mike. A.S.C? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 7 October , 2017 Share Posted 7 October , 2017 Any ideas please on this card or badges shown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 7 October , 2017 Share Posted 7 October , 2017 45 minutes ago, MikeyH said: In this oddly faded postcard image eight soldiers face the camera with their rifles neatly stacked. Can anyone suggest a regiment? The cap badges seem almost round, am unable to find a possible match. The bayonets pictured are of the P1888 pattern and the rifles are C.L.L.E.'s Mike. Perhaps Territorials of the Northamptonshire Regt, whose cap badge appeared quite large and round in photos. The old rifles, bandoliers and possible role guarding a LofC KP suggests TF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 7 October , 2017 Share Posted 7 October , 2017 12 minutes ago, GWF1967 said: Any ideas please on this card or badges shown? Definitely TF from the shoulder titles. White facings on the visible tunic(s), and the shape of the most visible cap badge suggests to me the Welsh Regiment, but I am by no means 100% confident of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 7 October , 2017 Share Posted 7 October , 2017 5 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: Definitely TF from the shoulder titles. White facings on the visible tunic(s), and the shape of the most visible cap badge suggests to me the Welsh Regiment, but I am by no means 100% confident of that. Thanks for looking. The scroll looks too long for Welsh, the shoulder title also appears to have more than 5 letters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 7 October , 2017 Share Posted 7 October , 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, GWF1967 said: Thanks for looking. The scroll looks too long for Welsh, the shoulder title also appears to have more than 5 letters. Yes, I did think the ST was quite long, hence my reservation. The white facings should help, it’s just that the cap badge seemed to have the shape of PoW feathers. Perhaps it’s East York’s then. There is a definite scroll at the base of the badge. Edited 7 October , 2017 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyH Posted 8 October , 2017 Share Posted 8 October , 2017 15 hours ago, FROGSMILE said: Perhaps Territorials of the Northamptonshire Regt, whose cap badge appeared quite large and round in photos. The old rifles, bandoliers and possible role guarding a LofC KP suggests TF. Frogsmile, Many thanks, that would make sense, as was picked up locally here in Northamptonshire. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 8 October , 2017 Share Posted 8 October , 2017 29 minutes ago, MikeyH said: Frogsmile, Many thanks, that would make sense, as was picked up locally here in Northamptonshire. Mike. The location provenance makes it seem more likely then. I don't know if you are aware but the Northampton Museums holds the photo collection of the two regular battalions (on behalf of the regimental association), as well as some TF in a 'Flickr' stream. I imagine that they would be happy to have a copy of the photo. See: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/northamptonmuseums.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/the-northamptonshire-regiment-collection/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew-1918 Posted 9 October , 2017 Share Posted 9 October , 2017 On 10/8/2017 at 01:48, GWF1967 said: Any ideas please on this card or badges shown? I am probably way off, but could it be the 23rd London Regiment? It could be the "T/23/County of London" shoulder title which might explain the length of the writing on the arc. Also, the numbers look to be double-digits. The crown on top of the East Surrey Regiment affiliated badge might give it a slightly extended appearance that makes it look like Prince of Wales feathers. The full dress uniform colour would be correct, too. I am not entirely happy with this suggestion as the badge looks a bit 'long' and not compact enough for the 23rd Bn., but I thought I would offer it up for debate anyway. Unfortunately, I know nothing about Welsh Regiments. Did any Welsh units have a scroll so large and rounded? Chris IWM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 9 October , 2017 Share Posted 9 October , 2017 (edited) Your rationale is good, Chris, although on balance I agree with your own assertion that the 23rd London’s badge seems more squat than that in the photo. There is also a man in the centre of the photo (partially obscured) who is wearing a tunic with drummer’s lace (seen on the arms), something that I’m not sure the 23rd London’s would have obtained since their re-titling in 1908. Also the County of London designation made for very squashed lettering on the shoulder titles, which I do not see in the image. The Welsh unit that I had thought it might be was the Welsh Regiment, whose badge was the PoW feathers with curved scroll under, but the shoulder title seems a little too long, as pointed out by GWF1967. Edited 9 October , 2017 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew-1918 Posted 9 October , 2017 Share Posted 9 October , 2017 Yes, after I had posted, I began to doubt it more and more. Many thanks for the extra detail. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 9 October , 2017 Share Posted 9 October , 2017 Yorkshire Regiment Richmond Camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeverleyDi Posted 9 October , 2017 Share Posted 9 October , 2017 Here's my contribution - my Grandad, Royal Engineer Lewis Harold Norris who died March 1918. This is the only photograph I have of him and would like him to be included in the Forum's great pictorial archive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 9 October , 2017 Share Posted 9 October , 2017 Thank you. His armband suggests he was part of RE Signals Service. Assuming he was not Territorial Force the star badge is the Distance Judging qualification. I think he has a chevron signifying Good Conduct. Above is a badge that I cannot distinguish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 9 October , 2017 Share Posted 9 October , 2017 36 minutes ago, Muerrisch said: Thank you. His armband suggests he was part of RE Signals Service. Assuming he was not Territorial Force the star badge is the Distance Judging qualification. I think he has a chevron signifying Good Conduct. Above is a badge that I cannot distinguish. It’s the signallers crossed flags, Muerrisch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 10 October , 2017 Share Posted 10 October , 2017 Makes sense! If so I Think it is the gilding metal version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 10 October , 2017 Share Posted 10 October , 2017 1 hour ago, Muerrisch said: Makes sense! If so I Think it is the gilding metal version. Yes, I think so too. Although a very acute angle I can make out its distinct form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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