Sidearm Posted 23 October , 2012 Share Posted 23 October , 2012 Yes, I am confident this is in fact the presentation tank. Gwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Jones Posted 7 February , 2014 Share Posted 7 February , 2014 An old thread but this marvellous photo of the Salisbury Tank is on the Salisbury Journal website as part of the Museum's appeal for their WW1 exhibition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeS0000 Posted 10 February , 2014 Share Posted 10 February , 2014 Do you think it was from the the same 'rally' as this one? Tissue-paper thin flyer that I have no idea how it survived. Now preserved in acid free display. Apologies if way off base, didn't read all the posts.... Best regards! - Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Finneran Posted 28 February , 2014 Share Posted 28 February , 2014 I am from Salisbury so great images - thanks. Here is one more sombre I am afraid. [/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 2 March , 2014 Share Posted 2 March , 2014 An old thread but this marvellous photo of the Salisbury Tank is on the Salisbury Journal website as part of the Museum's appeal for their WW1 exhibition. If the advert on the front of tank 211 for Bonza's Concert Party is for SAT March 6th then the year is 1920, that is the closest year for Saturday to be the 6th March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Jones Posted 2 March , 2014 Share Posted 2 March , 2014 That's a good bit of deduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidearm Posted 22 July , 2014 Share Posted 22 July , 2014 Yes, I am confident this is in fact the presentation tank. Gwyn Humble pie time, because I don't want to be on record for spreading information that I now know not to be true. Tank 211 is not the Salisbury presentation tank. It was a tank that visited the town in early March 1918 (see Moonraker's post #4) to raise money for war bonds. There are two big clues in the photo in post #27. Firstly, this tank is equipped with at least two Lewis guns and no presentation tank came complete with machine guns. Secondly, if you blow up the photo you can see the date on the placard hanging from said Lewis gun is not Saturday March 6, but Wednesday March 6. March 6 was a Wednesday in 1918. There's also the small point that 211 was the presentation tank to Bridgwater. I'm grateful to tanks3 for helping me puzzle this one out. Gwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted 22 July , 2014 Share Posted 22 July , 2014 ... Edit it looks as if its parked in front of the war memorial - a bit premature if this was there in March 1918 If it's not the war memorial, then what is it? I'm not likely to be in Salisbury for a while, but perhaps someone with local knowledge can ID the exact spot. Somewhere I've seen a note to the effect that Salisbury was lent a tank by a nearby Tank Corp unit. If they were preparing to go to France it could well have been a Mk V. I haven't come across a "Tank Corp unit" near to Salisbury in the war and don't think tanks were much seen in the county until the 1920s. (Having re-written the caption to my card once in the light of remarks made here on GWF, I'm now going to have to re-write it again in the light of Sidearm's latest conclusion! Thanks to everyone for an interesting discussion.) Moonraker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted 23 July , 2014 Share Posted 23 July , 2014 If it's not the war memorial, then what is it? I'm not likely to be in Salisbury for a while, but perhaps someone with local knowledge can ID the exact spot. Moonraker To answer my own question, I'm fairly sure that it's the Sidney Herbert statue. See what I mean? The war memorial is on the right. Moonraker (Good thing no one was going to check out the scene, as per my suggestion in post 33, as the Herbert statue was removed to Victoria Park in 1953!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidearm Posted 23 July , 2014 Share Posted 23 July , 2014 Dash it! I've driven half way from Scotland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted 18 May , 2015 Share Posted 18 May , 2015 This postcard was in my Grandmother's album. She was born in Salibury in 1901. Sadly there is no date or postmark on the postcard. Just as a matter of interest, she also saw the Kaiser riding his horse down Salisbury high street when she was a small child. I was sceptical about this claim, but the author who's preparing Salisbury in the Great War has come across an account of the Kaiser's visit in a local newspaper. Wikipedia tells me that "beginning in the 1890s, Wilhelm made visits to England for Cowes Week on the Isle of Wight and often competed against his uncle in the yacht races ... Despite his poor relations with his English relatives, nevertheless, when he received news that Queen Victoria was dying at Osborne House in January 1901, Wilhelm traveled to England and was at her bedside when she died and remained for the funeral. He also was present at the funeral of King Edward VII in 1910." It's not far from Cowes to Salisbury, though Wilhelm's sailing visits to the Isle of Wight would appear to have been made before Chunkeroo's grandmother was born.And had he remained in England between Queen Victoria's death and her funeral he could have seen the sights. (Wonder if he got to Stonehenge?) Moonraker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Drill Posted 19 May , 2015 Share Posted 19 May , 2015 I was sceptical about this claim, but the author who's preparing Salisbury in the Great War has come across an account of the Kaiser's visit in a local newspaper. Wikipedia tells me that "beginning in the 1890s, Wilhelm made visits to England for Cowes Week on the Isle of Wight and often competed against his uncle in the yacht races ... Despite his poor relations with his English relatives, nevertheless, when he received news that Queen Victoria was dying at Osborne House in January 1901, Wilhelm traveled to England and was at her bedside when she died and remained for the funeral. He also was present at the funeral of King Edward VII in 1910." It's not far from Cowes to Salisbury, though Wilhelm's sailing visits to the Isle of Wight would appear to have been made before Chunkeroo's grandmother was born.And had he remained in England between Queen Victoria's death and her funeral he could have seen the sights. (Wonder if he got to Stonehenge?) Moonraker He did, but thirty years earlier ! http://salisburyandstonehenge.net/on-this-day/august/august-10th-1871-crown-prince-of-prussia-victoria-the-princess-royal-and-the-future-kaiser-willhelm-ii-visit-salisbury-and-stonehenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted 18 January , 2020 Share Posted 18 January , 2020 On 20/10/2012 at 16:27, Moonraker said: Phew! Three cards of the tank in Salisbury have just gone on eBay for £263.97, with the best one going for £101.99. That's the highest price by far I've seen for a "military Wiltshire" postcard of the Great War period. And no, my bids came nowhere near those that won. Moonraker Everything comes to he who waits! Just won a duplicate of that card for £8.50 against a couple of modest bidders. At a fair I would expect to pay £25+. The link no longer works, but see the image in Simon Jones' post 27. And there's enough info on this thread for me to "write up" the card. Moonraker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 18 January , 2020 Share Posted 18 January , 2020 (edited) Hi, I believe that photo is taken with the tank at the southern end of Catherine Street (going against the current one way traffic flow), at the junction with New Street and Ivy Street - a couple of hundred yards away from the market place. A similar modern view is... Image from Google Earth Given the elevated view of the photo, I wonder if it might have been taken from the first floor balcony of the White Hart Hotel in St John's Street. Image from Google Earth Regards Chris Edited 18 January , 2020 by clk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted 19 January , 2020 Share Posted 19 January , 2020 Thanks for that, Chris. I do like "then & now" photos, though I prefer Salisbury "then" to "now". Moonraker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Beef Posted 11 November , 2020 Share Posted 11 November , 2020 Thought these might be of interest. You can see the Frederick Herbert statue in its entirety here. It was in front of the Guildhall before being moved to make way for the war memorial. According to the programme, the tank was present on the Tuesday only, that makes it the 5th of March 1918. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 11 November , 2020 Share Posted 11 November , 2020 Hi Bully Beef, Welcome to the Forum. Thanks for posting. I guess that Tuesday was a market day back then too. Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted 11 November , 2020 Share Posted 11 November , 2020 Good Afternoon, Bully Beef and welcome. You've made a good start with those excellent photos. I suspect that I came across them when I was working my way through the microfilm copies of the Journal at Salisbury Library, but that was c1997. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Beef Posted 11 November , 2020 Share Posted 11 November , 2020 Moonraker Thank you! I keep meaning to pop down there to look myself, but never seem to get around to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 11 November , 2020 Share Posted 11 November , 2020 Hi, 6 hours ago, Bully Beef said: You can see the Frederick Herbert statue in its entirety here. It was in front of the Guildhall before being moved to make way for the war memorial. I may well be wrong, but I don't think that is quite the case. From what I understand the war memorial was unveiled in 1922, but the statue of Sidney Herbert wasn't moved to a local park until the early 1950s. Image sourced from https://salisburyhealthcarehistory.uk/victoria_park/ From Google Earth, a similar perspective to the photo, it looks like the war memorial is further away from the front of the guildhall Image sourced from Google Earth Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Beef Posted 11 November , 2020 Share Posted 11 November , 2020 And a further photo that I've literally just seen tonight for the first time. You can see Salisbury's Sevastapool Gun in the foreground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Beef Posted 11 November , 2020 Share Posted 11 November , 2020 5 minutes ago, clk said: Hi, I may well be wrong, but I don't think that is quite the case. From what I understand the war memorial was unveiled in 1922, but the statue of Sidney Herbert wasn't moved to a local park until the early 1950s. Image sourced from https://salisburyhealthcarehistory.uk/victoria_park/ From Google Earth, a similar perspective to the photo, it looks like the war memorial is further away from the front of the guildhall Image sourced from Google Earth Regards Chris Apologies, I was actually thinking of the Henry Fawcett statue and completely confused the issue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted 11 November , 2020 Share Posted 11 November , 2020 Sidney Herbert, 7 hours ago, Bully Beef said: ... You can see the Frederick Herbert statue in its entirety here. It was in front of the Guildhall before being moved to make way for the war memorial... Sidney Herbert. More about the statue here. 'The City Council decided in principle in November 1952 that the statue would have to be moved “in the course of preparations for Coronation celebrations”. On that occasion, Alderman E.J. Case, chairman of the City Lands Committee argued that removing the statue “would give more space in front of the Guildhall for civic and state occasions”. An alternative to Victoria Park was a location in the grounds of the Council House ... the statue was moved on Tuesday 12th May 1953.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 11 November , 2020 Share Posted 11 November , 2020 (edited) Hi BB, Do please keep posting away. My great uncle (death presumed 23.3.1918) is named on the memorial, so I have a keen interest*1. Thanks Moonraker for confirming what I thought. Regards Chris Edit: *1 He's my current avatar Edited 11 November , 2020 by clk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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