Guest bookemdano Posted 12 August , 2010 Share Posted 12 August , 2010 Hi, I am trying to find out some information on the Croix de Guerre which was awarded to my Great Grandad, his name was Arthur Joseph Edwards and he was in the 2/4 Queens Regiment of Croydon and he was awarded this during his service in WW1. I desperatly want to know what he recieved it for for a family tree I am creating, can anyone help. P.S. I have already checked the list on Wiki so wondered if anyone knew who might be good to contact??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(nzef) Posted 12 August , 2010 Share Posted 12 August , 2010 Hi There, Firstly, my area is the 1st NZEF, but I'll point you where I would look. London Gazette - A record of the award should be in here somehwere - http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/ Searching the Gazette is an art form so perhaps more knowledgeable people than myself can help you with that. Then, you could try a MIC (medal index card) search on Ancestry (if you have an account) or the National Archives http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/browse-refine.asp?CatID=10&searchType=browserefine&pagenumber=1&query=*&queryType=1 Hope this helpes. Cheers Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27thBN Posted 12 August , 2010 Share Posted 12 August , 2010 Hi ....Peter alias Foreign gong has a really good database if anyone will find it he will Cheers Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeignGong Posted 12 August , 2010 Share Posted 12 August , 2010 Hi bookemdano I have a data base I have been working on for approx 9 years,that has over 37.000 names that are gazetted for foreign awards for the WW1 period. I do not claim that it is 100% but must be very close. I have checked & I do not have Arthur Joseph Edwards listed. As I tell every one, there were cases especially with the French & Serbs, where medals were given to Commonwealth service men & women, & no permission was given by the commonwealth for them to be accepted( I have a few in my collection). These were not gazetted but are usually mentioned in unit War Diaries as awarded. I have a 14 star trio with Russian medal to a Red Cross nurse that is not gazetted but authority was given in the British Nursing Journal that she was awarded the medal. So you have to do a lot of research to prove or disprove the award. As to why he got the CdG the only way of finding that info is in a local newspapers of the time period and / or War Diaries If you do prove the award, could I ask that you let me know the details so I can add them to my data base. Good luck Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgbarrett1 Posted 12 August , 2010 Share Posted 12 August , 2010 hi peter have you a listing for lt col Eric Dobbs RE Help appreciated Martin Hi bookemdano I have a data base I have been working on for approx 9 years,that has over 37.000 names that are gazetted for foreign awards for the WW1 period. I do not claim that it is 100% but must be very close. I have checked & I do not have Arthur Joseph Edwards listed. As I tell every one, there were cases especially with the French & Serbs, where medals were given to Commonwealth service men & women, & no permission was given by the commonwealth for them to be accepted( I have a few in my collection). These were not gazetted but are usually mentioned in unit War Diaries as awarded. I have a 14 star trio with Russian medal to a Red Cross nurse that is not gazetted but authority was given in the British Nursing Journal that she was awarded the medal. So you have to do a lot of research to prove or disprove the award. As to why he got the CdG the only way of finding that info is in a local newspapers of the time period and / or War Diaries If you do prove the award, could I ask that you let me know the details so I can add them to my data base. Good luck Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bookemdano Posted 13 August , 2010 Share Posted 13 August , 2010 Thanks for all your help guys, i'll keep searching and if i find anything of course i'll keep you updated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeignGong Posted 13 August , 2010 Share Posted 13 August , 2010 Sorry No Eric Dobbs Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy 60th Posted 13 August , 2010 Share Posted 13 August , 2010 Hi Peter Do you have a listing for Ralph Marshall Lunt who I think was in the Kings Liverpool Regt. At the date of the award. Regards, Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeignGong Posted 14 August , 2010 Share Posted 14 August , 2010 Hi Roger Good news he was awarded 2 C d G's as follows First C d G http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/30945/supplements/11945 Second C d G with Silver Star http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/30995/supplements/13116 Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27thBN Posted 14 August , 2010 Share Posted 14 August , 2010 2 French awards was he an officer ? Cheers Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy 60th Posted 14 August , 2010 Share Posted 14 August , 2010 Hi Roger Good news he was awarded 2 C d G's as follows First C d G http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/30945/supplements/11945 Second C d G with Silver Star http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/30995/supplements/13116 Peter Hi Peter Thanks very much for the information - I just need now to try and find out how he won the awards. Kind Regards, Roger 2 French awards was he an officer ? Cheers Tony 2 French awards was he an officer ? Cheers Tony Hi Tony Yes, he was a temporary Lieutenant at the time of both awards. Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeignGong Posted 14 August , 2010 Share Posted 14 August , 2010 I can only suggest that you look up local news papers & the Units War Diary, as no citations were given in the LG. He would have been entitled to wear both. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy 60th Posted 14 August , 2010 Share Posted 14 August , 2010 I can only suggest that you look up local news papers & the Units War Diary, as no citations were given in the LG. He would have been entitled to wear both. Peter Thanks again Peter Roger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koomwah Posted 1 September , 2010 Share Posted 1 September , 2010 Sorry for the hijack, Peter is there mention of William Irvin Brown in your database? He served with the 13th Yorks & was awarded the Croix De Guerre in October 1916. I have the citations for this & his DCM awarded at the same time, if you want further details PM me. Cheers Darren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeignGong Posted 2 September , 2010 Share Posted 2 September , 2010 Hi Darren I have a William IRWIN Brown 23590 Sjt Yorks Regt LG 14.7.1917 P7095 Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistler Posted 21 November , 2010 Share Posted 21 November , 2010 Hi Peter . Wondered if you had a listing for my Pop. Ended up as a Major F.J. Coplin MBE RASC but may have been a sergeant or wo2 at the time of the award.I traced it in the Gazette,which was a trifle time consuming !! Regards Nigel Coplin (Whistler) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistler Posted 21 November , 2010 Share Posted 21 November , 2010 Hi Peter . Wondered if you had a listing for my Pop. Ended up as a Major F.J. Coplin MBE RASC but may have been a sergeant or wo2 at the time of the award.I traced it in the Gazette,which was a trifle time consuming !! Regards Nigel Coplin (Whistler) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeignGong Posted 21 November , 2010 Share Posted 21 November , 2010 Hi Nigel Yes, I have Frederick James Coplin, Temp Staff Sjt Mjr, S/20039, HQ 4th Army, RASC. French Silver Gilt Medaillie d'Honneur, avec Glaives(en Vermeil). LG 29 Jan 1919 P1450. I have approx 160 issued to British Commonwealth Forces WW1. Nice to see he end up with a MBE as well. In case you do not have it http://www.london-ga...upplements/3774 Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelab Posted 21 November , 2010 Share Posted 21 November , 2010 Hi Peter, My grandfather William Browne BAGSHAW was awarded the Croix de Guerre in 1918. If you do not have info on him or on the citation, I can provide it. Angela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeignGong Posted 21 November , 2010 Share Posted 21 November , 2010 Hi Angela I have William Browne Bagshaw, MC, Manchester Regt (TF), awarded a French Croix de Guerre, LG 29 Nov 1918, P14094. The 25th Divisional History has him as Brigade Major, 74th Bde & shows the C de G as with a Gold Star. In case you do not have the LG for the MC http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/30450/supplements/30 & this one for his Bar to the MC http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/30813/supplements/8754 This one is his appiontment to Flight Lt 1939 http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/34679/pages/6197 This one for his relinquishing his Commission http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/34679/pages/6197 Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelab Posted 21 November , 2010 Share Posted 21 November , 2010 Thanks so much for all that info Peter! I think I have most of it already on this page that I have done for him; if you need it, you will find the citation for his Croix de Guerre about three-quarters of the way down the page. Angela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bantamforgot Posted 21 November , 2010 Share Posted 21 November , 2010 Peter, You may already have it listed but I have the gazette listing & the French/English translation for 37302 Sgt. John Braddock C/88th Bgde. RFA . If any use please advise. Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeignGong Posted 22 November , 2010 Share Posted 22 November , 2010 Thanks Colin Already have him Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bantamforgot Posted 22 November , 2010 Share Posted 22 November , 2010 OK Peter, thought I would ask. Cheers. Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rewbarbel Posted 22 November , 2010 Share Posted 22 November , 2010 Hi Peter I have a pair with a French 1914 1918 Croix de Guerre and star to DM2-207077 J V CODMAN A.S.C. They seem to have been mounted for some time, but I have not been able to find anything out. Do you have him on your list? Many thanks, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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