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hi,everyone i have just joined the forum.

I am not very good with computers so please bear with me as I am not very good at typing. The reason I have joined is because I have found 52 photos in a box which I. bought at a car boot sale about 7 years ago. At the time I did not realize that there was a false bottom and when I some years later started to rip the box open to dispose of it discovered that underneath newspaper put at the botom of the box, there were nine pages from somebody's album dipicting Soldiers of the First World War. They are in good condition for their age. There are 14 postcards of soldiers training I understand from research that this training was somehere in Bolton, Lancashire. There are 8 photos of officers, corporals, sergants,Company Sergeant Majors, Lieutenants,Captains, Majors, Colonels. Five of the photos are of 15 or more soldiers; the soldiers have cap bages on, all of which are different(i.e. The Lancashire Fusiliers, East Lancashire Regiment, Manchester Regiment and some which I have, as yet, not been able to verify. There are photographs of soldiers stood outside Alexandra Barracks in Egypt on parade. There is a picture of officers in a boat sailing down the Nile. Also photographs of mosques, officers outside barracks,ect.then it moves on to marching in desert 2 of,then it goes on to embarking at alexandra for galpoli then on the ships sailing in on may 5th bivuacking on galipoli, there are 20 photos on galipoli in the trenches, the story can be seen if you type in 5th battalion lancs fussileers page 6 on web search i would like to know about the officers in the post cards from the manchesters and east lancs reg,thanks very much in advance if you can help me best regards mike.

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I'm starting this thread here (rather than in the look ups, help with photos section) as it'll be of more use to the original poster. The following post was made elsewhere and had to have it's own thread rather than being merged.....

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Mike

Welcome to the Forum.

You may have got some very interesting and important photos, particularly the Gallipoli trench ones. Mention of the East Lancs, mancs and Fusiliers tells me you've got a batch of 42nd Division photos there. The Division was the first Territorial division to leave Britain (10/9/14) going to Egypt and then into action at Gallipoli in 5/15. If most are of the Fusiliers, then the Regimental Museum at Bury may be able to help identify them. I have a particular interest in the 6th Manchesters who may well feature amongst them.

Any names on the back of any of the piccies?

John

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Mike

Welcome to the Forum.

You may have got some very interesting and important photos, particularly the Gallipoli trench ones. Mention of the East Lancs, mancs and Fusiliers tells me you've got a batch of 42nd Division photos there. The Division was the first Territorial division to leave Britain (10/9/14) going to Egypt and then into action at Gallipoli in 5/15. If most are of the Fusiliers, then the Regimental Museum at Bury may be able to help identify them. I have a particular interest in the 6th Manchesters who may well feature amongst them.

Any names on the back of any of the piccies?

John

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hi john, i have just got back on the forum i am finding it difficult work it out but i will persevere i am going to try and put some photos on this one is of the manchesters there is nothing on the back

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Hi Micheal,

As promised your photos.

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And again

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thanks to colin for putting these photos on for me I will give description of them,1st photo is manchester reg training at bolton? 2nd photo all corprals and sgts the comp sgts are very tall chaps,,3rd photo lancashire fusiliers marching in desert,4th photo of graves on galipoli 1st grave which read 2nd LT C.S FAIZELLE LANCASHIRE FUSILIERS K.I.A august 1915, 2nd grave C.O.M SERGT G.LORD 1ST/5th east lancs regt died from wounds august 5th 1915,3rd grave SERGT L J HARTLEY 92nd battery R.F.A the 4th grave i think is turkish.

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Initials and spelling are a bit out but they rest together still at Lancashire Landing Cemetery.

Name: FRIZELLE, EDWIN SAMUEL

Initials: E S

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Second Lieutenant

Regiment/Service: Lancashire Fusiliers

Unit Text: 5th Bn.

Age: 21

Date of Death: 03/08/1915

Additional information: Son of William George and Janie Frizelle, of Knutsford House, Cliftonville, Belfast. Native of Dungannon, Co. Tyrone.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: M.A. A. 60.

Cemetery: LANCASHIRE LANDING CEMETERY

Name: LORD

Initials: G R

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Serjeant

Regiment/Service: East Lancashire Regiment

Unit Text: 5th Bn.

Date of Death: 07/08/1915

Service No: 461

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: A. 61.

Cemetery: LANCASHIRE LANDING CEMETERY

Name: HARTLEY

Initials: E J

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Serjeant

Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery

Unit Text: 92nd Bty. 17th Bde.

Age: 31

Date of Death: 07/08/1915

Service No: 20916

Additional information: Son of the late Edward and Annie Hartley, of Stockwell, London; husband of A. L. Hartley, of Melrose, Kildare.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: A. 62.

Cemetery: LANCASHIRE LANDING CEMETERY

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Thanks Jim for that superb information. I can now change the inaccurate facts for the correct facts that you have given me.

I appreciate this very much.

Thanks again,

Best regards,

mike

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hi,everyone i have just joined the forum.

I am not very good with computers so please bear with me as I am not very good at typing. The reason I have joined is because I have found 52 photos in a box which I. bought at a car boot sale about 7 years ago. At the time I did not realize that there was a false bottom and when I some years later started to rip the box open to dispose of it discovered that underneath newspaper put at the botom of the box, there were nine pages from somebody's album dipicting Soldiers of the First World War. They are in good condition for their age. There are 14 postcards of soldiers training I understand from research that this training was somehere in Bolton, Lancashire. There are 8 photos of officers, corporals, sergants,Company Sergeant Majors, Lieutenants,Captains, Majors, Colonels. Five of the photos are of 15 or more soldiers; the soldiers have cap bages on, all of which are different(i.e. The Lancashire Fusiliers, East Lancashire Regiment, Manchester Regiment and some which I have, as yet, not been able to verify. There are photographs of soldiers stood outside Alexandra Barracks in Egypt on parade. There is a picture of officers in a boat sailing down the Nile. Also photographs of mosques, officers outside barracks,ect.then it moves on to marching in desert 2 of,then it goes on to embarking at alexandra for galpoli then on the ships sailing in on may 5th bivuacking on galipoli, there are 20 photos on galipoli in the trenches, the story can be seen if you type in 5th battalion lancs fussileers page 6 on web search i would like to know about the officers in the post cards from the manchesters and east lancs reg,thanks very much in advance if you can help me best regards mike.

Hi there and welcome,

My great uncle was 1st/5th Bn Lancashire Fusiliers - where exactly are the photos?

Regards,

Martin

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Hi there and welcome,

My great uncle was 1st/5th Bn Lancashire Fusiliers - where exactly are the photos?

Regards,

Martin

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hi martin,the photos on galipoli are of the 5th battalion lancashire fusiliers in the trenches and are mostly of the officers captains majors and colonels at headquarters which was just an hole in the ground,going round trenches, the french camp, in australian lines,hope this helps,regargs mike.

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Mike

Welcome to the Forum.

You may have got some very interesting and important photos, particularly the Gallipoli trench ones. Mention of the East Lancs, mancs and Fusiliers tells me you've got a batch of 42nd Division photos there. The Division was the first Territorial division to leave Britain (10/9/14) going to Egypt and then into action at Gallipoli in 5/15. If most are of the Fusiliers, then the Regimental Museum at Bury may be able to help identify them. I have a particular interest in the 6th Manchesters who may well feature amongst them.

Any names on the back of any of the piccies?

John

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hi john, their are 8 photos of the manchester regiment from corprals to majors there are no privates i will ask colin of c.t guards if he can put them on for you to see if they are the 6th manchesters ,they are all taken at a training camp i.e bury bolton or rochdale.p.s the officers from the lancashire fusiliers have been identified i just cant find out about these from the manchesters.best regards mike.

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Micheal, sorry for the delay. - (larger picture available if you PM me with email address)

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Same again

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hi colin, thank you for putting the pictures on i still have some more to put on i will email you with them i have noticed on the lapel badges of the manchester regiment officers there is a large V does it mean 5th battalion? probably someone out there will know if you do please let me know thanks once again colin i still cant put photos on,best regards mike.

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hi colin, thank you for putting the pictures on i still have some more to put on i will email you with them i have noticed on the lapel badges of the manchester regiment officers there is a large V does it mean 5th battalion? probably someone out there will know if you do please let me know thanks once again colin i still cant put photos on,best regards mike.

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Michael send me the images back and I will sort for you.

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Mike

Welcome to the Forum. I have an interest in Edwin Samual Frizelle, as you will see from the previous thread below, if you are interested in reading more. I really would be interested in a higher resolution scan of the picture you posted showing his original grave marker if that's possible. When the PM's come back on line I can send you my e-mail address if that's OK.

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=95721&st=0&p=907479&hl=frizelle&fromsearch=1entry907479

Regards, Tommy

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hitommy,thank you for repyling to the article I am amazed the at the interest shown on the forum of these photos all the photos will be on the virtual world screen at lancashire fusiliers museum which should finished in about 4 weeks I have given a copy of each photo so they can be kept for ever in the museum, there are 29 photos from egypt to galipoli many in the trenches but there is one on the river nile with 9 officers he may well be one of them,as for the photo of the grave i would be delighted let you have a copy for your own use only one thing is i am not good on computers and i am srtugling to master it any ideas of how to get it to you without useing the computer i can post it if you email me at m.wellock@talktalk.net with your address,on the same matter graves on galipoli i have just researched another grave in scrubland and it says 2nd LT HUMPHREY K HOYLE 5th BATTALION LANCASHIRE FUSILIERS KILLED IN ACTION MAY 7TH 1915 he has his helmet on the grave with a big dent in it,he is on the photo of oficers taken outside the barracks in cairo egypt so if anybody knows him let me know and the forum,best regards mike.

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Hi Michael,

Email the scan back to me and i'll forward it to Tommy.

Tommy you may still have my email address from a while back?

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Mike

I would much appreciate a copy of the original grave marker for my own records - I'm working on a few different talk for my local history society and the grave marker photot would be very useful indeed. CT Guards offer would be the best way and I have sent him an e-mail. Must say I'm loking forward to the rest of the photos. You might also want to amend/remove your own e-mail address from your original post as it could result in you being inundated with SPAM or worse.

CT Guards

E-mail sent earlier tonight, offer much appreciated.

Regards, Tommy.

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