corisande Posted 27 May , 2010 Share Posted 27 May , 2010 Can anyone help me here. I cannot see what the red writing means - ignore the blue writing, I understand that! It is on the MIC of John Caldow ,Royal Scots Fusiliers, Private 7375. It does not seem to be in the right place for "Disembarked" if that is what it is. Could be for "Disembodied" but does not seem to have a date. I am researching the Cairo Gang murders in Dublin 1920. Most of the men had been serving officers, but this man, who survived, was a civilian in 1920. I am trying to see if the MIC and the man shot are the same, with not many clues, so each bit comes important! This is my page on John Caldow, and includes the complete MIC if you need to see it for the context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redescort Posted 27 May , 2010 Share Posted 27 May , 2010 Corisande Disembodied Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 27 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 27 May , 2010 Thanks, My leaning was to Disembodied, just a pity there is no date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT-Guards Posted 3 June , 2010 Share Posted 3 June , 2010 Is there any other red writing on the card that matches it, if so possibly written at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 3 June , 2010 Author Share Posted 3 June , 2010 I Have his card here, but although there is other red writing, it does not appear to be quite the same shade ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 23 June , 2010 Share Posted 23 June , 2010 Thanks, My leaning was to Disembodied, just a pity there is no date. The date would have been on the service record; these are only a quick reference for medal rolls. They were not intended to suppliment the service record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B Posted 23 June , 2010 Share Posted 23 June , 2010 Corisande, Why disembodied ? That means free of the body and I can't figure out in what context this word could be used on a MIC. Rather lean towards Disencumbered. Thoughts ? Cheers David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pighills Posted 23 June , 2010 Share Posted 23 June , 2010 No, definitely looks like disembodies to me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headgardener Posted 23 June , 2010 Share Posted 23 June , 2010 Why disembodied ? That means free of the body and I can't figure out in what context this word could be used on a MIC. Rather lean towards Disencumbered. Thoughts ? It's definately 'Disembodied'. Think of it like this; 'Embodied' service - the soldier is 'embodied' within the army, hence 'disembodied' when discharged from the army. Hope that made sense..... The term is used extensively within soldier's service records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 23 June , 2010 Share Posted 23 June , 2010 It actually says Disemb'd and is definitely Disembodied, which, despite sounding like a form of hanging, drawing and quartering, simply means Discharged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPCLI Posted 23 June , 2010 Share Posted 23 June , 2010 The term is used because he served with a territorial battalion (1/5th RSF); this terminology was also used for the yeomanry and militia. Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPCLI Posted 23 June , 2010 Share Posted 23 June , 2010 Just a little further info for your site. You state, 'John Caldow joined Royal Scots Fusiliers as Private 7375, early in 1915'. However, it is likely that he enlisted within a week of the outbreak of war; #7371 attested on 11 Aug 1914. Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B Posted 24 June , 2010 Share Posted 24 June , 2010 I bow to greater knowledge of the 'word'. It seemed a strange way of wording a discharge, seeing the usual meaning of disembodied. Cheers David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dycer Posted 24 June , 2010 Share Posted 24 June , 2010 David, From a TF Soldiers Diary. 11th January 1919-I went and saw Colonel at the War Hospital,Marked Dispersal Camp. 3rd February 1919-Saw the Colonel and filled in the Demobilisation Papers. 4th February 1919-Drew Karki(sic).Took the bus to Napsbury Military Dispersal Hospital.I was disembodied within two and a half hours,then back in the bus to Barnet and a train to London. 5th February 1919-Arrived Edinburgh,Waverley at 5 a.m. 23rd February 1919-"The Day" I put my civvy suit on. George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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