2/10 Battn Manchester Regt Edgar Wilton 377427

[exdower]

I'm trying to find the action or even the general area where this individual might have been killed on 7 Nov 1917. The LLT is very sparse as to the actions the unit was engaged in. Any help gratefully appreciated.

[KevinBattle]

Date seems off. CWGC has:-

Name: WILTON

Initials: E

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment/Service: Manchester Regiment

Unit Text: 2nd/10th Bn.

Date of Death: 09/10/1917

Service No: 377427

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. B. 4.

Cemetery: NINE ELMS BRITISH CEMETERY

The Cemetery information indicates he may have died of wounds incurred up to a few days earlier

The cemetery was begun and used by the 3rd Australian and 44th Casualty Clearing Stations when they moved to Poperinghe (now Poperinge), from Brandhoek and Lijssenthoek respectively, in September 1917. Nearly all the burials in Plots I to IX came from these Casualty Clearing Stations, whilst they operated in this area during the 1917 Battle of Ypres, up until December 1917.

In fact, there were 50 killed on 9th, most on Tyne Cot Memorial, so suggests passchendale attacks to me...

001 ASHTON W 377143 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

002 ATKINSON J 377903 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

003 BALL J 377611 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

004 BARLOW R 203527 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

005 BROOKS E 377638 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

006 CAROLIN JJ 201916 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

007 CASTLE WH 378013 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

008 DINWOODIE A 377456 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

009 DOLAN W 375651 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

010 EATHERALL A 377908 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

011 ELLIS FA 201910 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

012 FIELDEN W 251219 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

013 FLETCHER D 376802 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

014 GARMORY H 377910 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

015 HAGAN J 42577 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

016 HAMILTON J 203070 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

017 HEALD A 376878 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

018 HENDERSON T 42521 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

019 HENSON T 378022 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

020 HILL R 376021 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

021 HOLT CH 377356 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

022 JERVIS A 377503 B COY 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

023 KENWORTHY F 375865 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

024 KENYON J 376286 2ND/10TH BN 05/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

025 LEACH TM 377699 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

026 LEDGERWOOD J 42525 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

027 LEES AE 377352 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

028 MAHOMET A 377376 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

029 MCALLISTER JJ 377478 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

030 MILLS HC 375928 2ND/10TH BN 07/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

031 MORRIS H 203200 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

032 MOULSON R 377658 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

033 MURPHY W 377970 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

034 NEEDHAM G 202835 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

035 PARKER GA 42748 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

036 PARKINSON F 377448 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

037 PARROTT JA 277134 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

038 PENKETH A 203140 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

039 POTTS G 376050 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

040 SMETHURST CE 376767 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

041 SMITH A 377621 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

042 TINNING A 50869 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

043 TODD WF 42541 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

044 WAINMAN H 377676 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

045 WALL TH 50875 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

046 WALSH JP 376791 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

047 WHEATLEY SH 42765 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

048 WILD S 375975 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

049 WILLMAN HP 377378 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

050 WILTON E 377427 2ND/10TH BN 09/10/1917 MANCHESTER REGIMENT

Other Pals may be able to add more, now you have the correct date.

[exdower]

Thank you for that information. Someone here always knows the answer. I had guessed Passchendaele but had nothing to confirm it.

[CROONAERT]

In fact, there were 50 killed on 9th, most on Tyne Cot Memorial, so suggests passchendale attacks to me...

They were indeed... specific vicinty was 'Augustus Wood'. Lead battalions were to be the 2/4th East Lancs and the 2/9th Manchesters followed up by the 2/5th East Lancs (stretched out in two lines covering the rear of both lead battalions). The 2/10th Manchesters were the reserve battalion.... However, the eventuality of the actual events caused this planning to go somewhat awry!

Dave

[John_Hartley]

Some info on the day from the 2/9th perspective:

Linky link

[Chris_Baker]

I had guessed Passchendaele but had nothing to confirm it.

LLT gives this outline.

2/10th Manchester (from Manchester Regiment page):

"In November 1914 was placed under command of 198th Brigade in 66th (2nd East Lancashire) Division. Moved to Crowborough in May 1915, went on to Colchester in March 1916. February 1917 : landed in France."

66th Division (from division page):

"The Division received orders on 11 February 1917 for embarkation for France. Entrainment began on 25 February and by 16 March all units had arrived and the Division concentrated under XI Corps. The Division then remained in France and Flanders and took part in the following engagements:

- The Operations on the Flanders Coast (Operation Hush) ( 26 June - 25 September 1917)

- The Battle of Poelcapelle 1917, a phase of the Third Battles of the Ypres (6-10 October 1917)".

[John_Hartley]

Battalion history has a briefish mention of the day. A pretty similar experience to the 2/9th in getting to the line so having taken 11 hours to get to the front line, they were told just to keep on and try to make up ground to get to their support position. Eventually they took cover in shell holes around Augustus Wood. As Mitchinson puts it, the saving grace was that the mud absorbed the explosion of shells so casualties were not as high as they might otherwise have been been.

[exdower]

Thank you all for the extra comments. Much appreciated