zijde26 Posted 11 April , 2010 Share Posted 11 April , 2010 Does anyone know (the ww1-fuction) of the Vierstraatmolen (Vierstraete molen) Thanks, Gilbert Deraedt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zijde26 Posted 13 April , 2010 Author Share Posted 13 April , 2010 It seems that there is a hamlet named ' Vierstraat ' in Voormezele (Kemmel border). Does anyone know more ? Thanks, Gilbert Deraedt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfaulder Posted 13 April , 2010 Share Posted 13 April , 2010 Is "Molen" Flemish for "Mill" so Vierstraatmolen is Vierstraat Mill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roel22 Posted 13 April , 2010 Share Posted 13 April , 2010 North of Kemmel are Kleine Vierstraat and Grote Vierstraat (not even hamlets, just a few houses). Roel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egbert Posted 13 April , 2010 Share Posted 13 April , 2010 I am not sure I understand the query. WW1 function? Well same as any other small village in reach of the battlefield. I have a German aerial from 1914/1915 where Vierstraat was photographed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roel22 Posted 13 April , 2010 Share Posted 13 April , 2010 I'd love to see this aerial, Egbert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zijde26 Posted 13 April , 2010 Author Share Posted 13 April , 2010 To David Faulder, Yes ' molen ' is in english ' mill '. Vierstraatmolen = Vierstraat mill To Egbert, Please send ('off -line') that 'aereal photo". I would be very happy with it. Pay no special attention to the word 'function' Thanks. The Vierstraatmolen (=Vierstraat mill) is also called ' Vandenbroucke's molen. It seems that the Vierstraatmolen disappeared in ww1 (1915 ?). I am looking for information !! Kind regards, Gilbert Deraedt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roel22 Posted 13 April , 2010 Share Posted 13 April , 2010 This document has information about (disappeared) mills in Heuvelland. It mentions a "Keyserinnemolen" near Vierstraat. Roel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roel22 Posted 14 April , 2010 Share Posted 14 April , 2010 Gilbert, you have reason to assume this mill was located at Vierstraat? (Apart from the two hamlets the road connecting them is also called Vierstraat) Because the name "Vierstraete Molen" may also refer to a former owner. Like in the second name, "Vandenbroucke's molen". "Vierstraete" is not an uncommon name in the area. Roel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egbert Posted 14 April , 2010 Share Posted 14 April , 2010 .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roel22 Posted 14 April , 2010 Share Posted 14 April , 2010 Thanks, Egbert. But I can't tell where this is on a modern map... Roel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egbert Posted 14 April , 2010 Share Posted 14 April , 2010 some km from Dickebusch lake, the crossroads of Kemmelstraat and Ruuschaartsstraat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roel22 Posted 14 April , 2010 Share Posted 14 April , 2010 Found it. It's not really Vierstraat, that's slightly more south (2,5 km.) Still it is a "Vierstraat" (junction)... Roel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frie Posted 14 April , 2010 Share Posted 14 April , 2010 The information about the mills is not always correct : Spanbrouckmolen -- burned down november 1914 Vandevivere's molen = what is also called by Britisch -burning mill at Messines = mechanical mill in 1912 and also a chicory factory. There are reasons to believe there was no longer a windmill in 1914... ( also tax paying for two mills....). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zijde26 Posted 23 April , 2010 Author Share Posted 23 April , 2010 Thanks for the replies. Does anyone have a photo (postcard, ...) of this " Vierstraat " - mill ? Gilbert Deraedt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalvoPeter Posted 30 August , 2011 Share Posted 30 August , 2011 I am currently researching my wifes' Great Uncle - WILLIAM ARTHER HONEYCOMBE - who was killed on 04/09/18. He was in the 15th Battalion Hampshire Yeomanry. As far as I can ascertain he was killed during the advance in Flanders during an attack on Vierstraat. The problem is - which one? Was it the town, or was it the hamlet. He is buried in Voormezee;e Enclosure No.3. Can anyone help me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 30 August , 2011 Share Posted 30 August , 2011 SalvoPeter, it is the Vierstraat that is even today little more than a few buildings at a crossroads junction on the Ieper - Kemmel - Nieuwkerke road. Vierstraat is very close to Voormezele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roel22 Posted 31 August , 2011 Share Posted 31 August , 2011 There are two hamlets called Vierstraat, Kleine ("small") Vierstraat and Groote ("big") Vierstraat. When just Vierstraat is written it normally refers to Groote Vierstraat. Let me describe the situation using this German trenchmap from may 1918. In april 1918 the Germans advanced from Wijtschaete to Kleine Vierstraat, and conquered the (British) trenches on the map. They held this position until the Americans came in. With their help the Germans were pushed back eastwards to Vierstraat, during an offensive between 31 august and 4 september. Your wife's great uncle must have been killed on the last day of this attack. Roel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frie Posted 1 September , 2011 Share Posted 1 September , 2011 There are two hamlets called Vierstraat, Kleine ("small") Vierstraat and Groote ("big") Vierstraat. When just Vierstraat is written it normally refers to Groote Vierstraat. Let me describe the situation using this German trenchmap from may 1918. In april 1918 the Germans advanced from Wijtschaete to Kleine Vierstraat, and conquered the (British) trenches on the map. They held this position until the Americans came in. With their help the Germans were pushed back eastwards to Vierstraat, during an offensive between 31 august and 4 september. Your wife's great uncle must have been killed on the last day of this attack. Roel For history..; The Keyserinne Mill disappeared before 1760... The location was north - east "Kleine Vierstraat" -- Vierstraat mill = mechanical mill... no windmill (Grote Vierstraat hamlet is Kemmel and Voormezele) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roel22 Posted 4 June , 2021 Share Posted 4 June , 2021 Ten years after the last reply in this topic I stumbled across this photo, caption reads "Vierstraat, spring 1915". It clearly shows the ruins of a windmill. Roel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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