high wood Posted 14 March , 2010 Share Posted 14 March , 2010 This photograph of a King's Liverpool regiment soldier has the name Ernie Cook and the address, 195 Rathbone Road, Old Swan, Liverpool on the back. Two possible candidates are 266185 Ernest M Cook and 114151 Ernest H Cook. Can anyone identify which of these two men lived at the address on the back of the postcard please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verrico2009 Posted 14 March , 2010 Share Posted 14 March , 2010 Tried several different approaches but came up with nothing on either Ernest or Elsie for the 1901 or 1911 census returns in Liverpool. But quite suddenly (on an extended age-range search), up has popped Alfred Ernest Cook, b.1893 aged 18 in 1911 and living in Liverpool. I think he does look a little more mature than a late teen. Therefore I submit this man as a possibility:- Name: Alfred E Cook Regiment or Corps: Liverpool Regiment, Labour Corps, Liverpool Regiment Regimental Number: 331850, 519337, 89466 Sorry to add to the mix! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 14 March , 2010 Admin Share Posted 14 March , 2010 Looks like Esme Cook to me. Michelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high wood Posted 14 March , 2010 Author Share Posted 14 March , 2010 There are two Esme Cooks on the 1911 census index; none living in Liverpool. Is it possible to find out who was living at 195 Rathbone Road, Old Swan, Liverpool? There was also a Harold Ernest Cook aged 19 in 1911 living in Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high wood Posted 16 March , 2010 Author Share Posted 16 March , 2010 Would someone please be kind enough to check the 1911 census to see who was living at 195 Rathbone Road, Old Swan, Liverpool? I would like to know if it was Harold Ernest Cook aged 19. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verrico2009 Posted 16 March , 2010 Share Posted 16 March , 2010 Tried FindMyPast, which came up with nothing. However, 1911census threw up this:- http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/results...px?x=1068865089 Nothing for the house number you've got, but I think Rathbone and Ratholme are the same street. There's a pay per view system so you don't need to subscribe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael O'Neil Posted 16 March , 2010 Share Posted 16 March , 2010 Think it's Harold E. Cook - aka Ernie or Erne 1901 Census has Harry E. Cook age 11 so born around 1890 - different address and area of city but not unexpected. Found a birth record for Harold Ernest Cook OND 1891 Prescot. This is a few miles out of the city and is the same registration district as the birth district of the mother of the Harry E. Cook found above. Haven't got access to 1911 census but you can do address search: http://www.findmypast.co.uk/CensusAddressS...&houseName= Rathbone Road, Old Swan is in the West Derby district of Liverpool - runs between Old Swan and Wavertree. Not conclusive I know but compelling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high wood Posted 16 March , 2010 Author Share Posted 16 March , 2010 Thank you for taking the trouble to look at the census returns for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verrico2009 Posted 16 March , 2010 Share Posted 16 March , 2010 Can't track a Harold or Harry in the Liverpools, so I would say Ernest H is your best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulianB Posted 17 March , 2010 Share Posted 17 March , 2010 Try the uniform people. The mix between whatever uniform jacket that is and what appear to be non regulation trousers might suggest a wartime / home / volunteer ??? (taking his possible age into account). on the other hand I thought that the waist belt clasp was diastinctly pre 1914 ??? What I can see of the cap badge suggests pre 1915/16 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggers Posted 17 March , 2010 Share Posted 17 March , 2010 I've been waiting for someone to suggest that the name on the photo is not of the subject but the 'attachment' back home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high wood Posted 17 March , 2010 Author Share Posted 17 March , 2010 Good point except that the name and address are written sideways in the correspondence section and the postcard has not been sent through the post. This would tend to indicate that the person in the photograph wrote his name and address on the card to give to someone as a keepsake, perhaps a nurse or a fellow soldier on demobilisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verrico2009 Posted 17 March , 2010 Share Posted 17 March , 2010 I think you're right that he's written his own name on the back of the card but I thought I read here not so long ago (or maybe it was discussed with my colleague who inherited a lot of WW1 stuff) that they would pop the card in an OHMS envelope which would be why the cards themselves were never stamped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high wood Posted 17 March , 2010 Author Share Posted 17 March , 2010 I have heard the OHMS envelope theory before and there may be some truth in it. It doesn't explain why, if the envelope is addressed, why the address also appears on the card inside the envelope. I also have group photographs in my collection showing four soldiers which have three names and addresses on the back. The fourth not being there because he was the soldier who kept the card and presumably knew his own address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verrico2009 Posted 17 March , 2010 Share Posted 17 March , 2010 I know: doesn't seem to make sense. Handed to a young lady he encountered and hoped to see again after the war - a bit like giving out your mobile number these days? Given to an injured pal who was returning home so they could keep in touch? Doesn't help that 195 Rathbone Road doesn't appear to be on the 1911 census. Is there an absent voters list for the area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggers Posted 17 March , 2010 Share Posted 17 March , 2010 There is no 1918 AVL for Liverpool, sorry. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael O'Neil Posted 18 March , 2010 Share Posted 18 March , 2010 Think High Wood is right - he's given the card to someone - sweetheart, friend, etc and either he or the recipient has written the name and address on it - even the terminology Erne or Ernie seems to give it that personal touch. Personally think that the OHMS theory over-complicates things - I'm a great believer in Occam's Razor. Someone said that 195 Rathbone Road isn't on the 1911 census - as I said earlier - it is - but I haven't got access - you can search by address at www.findmypast.co.uk You might want to check the two entries because Rathbone Road, Old Swan is in the West Derby district of Liverpool - runs between Old Swan and Wavertree. It's listed as West Derby and as Wavertree - don't think the info will be different as it's the same address and therefore the SAME house! Search terms - Rathbone Road, Lancashire - 3 hits, 2 are the ones I've mentioned above. http://www.findmypast.co.uk/CensusAddressS...&houseName= As far as I know you can't do address searches at www.1911census.co.uk which is the other main 1911 census site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sky blue girl Posted 9 October , 2015 Share Posted 9 October , 2015 I have just found this post and it's amazing because it is my Grandad Ernest Cook. I never met him but have been tracing the history. My father was born at 195 Rathbone Road. It was a bakers shop and still was a few years ago. It still looks the way it was years ago it's amazing. It's brilliant to see this and he resembles several of my relatives who are sadly not with us now. I have his birth certificate and it is just Ernest Cook . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high wood Posted 18 October , 2015 Author Share Posted 18 October , 2015 If you would like a high resolution copy of the photograph please let me know and I will send you one. Do you have any details about your grandfather's date of birth or regimental number? Simon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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