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Samuel McKnight s/4238 Seaforth Highlanders


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I have his medal card but can see no other info. his medal card says SWB list G/A/266, can any info be found about this if the other records do not exist. He was discharged after being wounded but don't know when but suspect 1915 or early 1916 as his eldest daughter was born Nov 1916

Until the day he died in 1968 he had a piece of metal in his head that was deemed too dangerous to remove

Brian

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Brian

The SWB is Silver War Badge and the reference is to the roll and page number. The roll in turn might give additional information such as date of birth. His number indicates that he joined up for war-time service in September 1914.

Paul

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! don't know if it's much help but 4234 was in the 4th Battalion and the numbers are very close.

Steve.

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It does not say on his medal card which Bn he was in. Have since found out that he married end of Dec 1915 and his occupation is listed as Coalminer.

Brian

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Brian

You need the Ledger WO329/3064 (G/A/266 is Perth Army District) at Kew for the original SWB List showing the salient details.

Sotonmate

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! don't know if it's much help but 4234 was in the 4th Battalion and the numbers are very close.

Steve.

Steve

Actually that's a red herring. There were at least seven separate number series in use by the Seaforth Highlanders in September 1914 and four of these would, at some point, issue number 4238. Fortunately though, we know that the S/ prefix indicates a service battalion rather than a Territorial Force one and so that narrows it down somewhat; probably to the 7th or 8th Bn.

Paul

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Quite agree, Paul. In this case, it is also quite possible that he served with one of the regular battalions; for example, S/4236 Angus Ross was wounded while serving with the 1st Seaforths (n.b. his MIC states that he landed in France 6 days after Samuel).

Stuart

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Further to my previous post, Samuel's early entry date (19th March 1915) rules out, at least initially, being posted to a Service battalion; they didn't land in France until May 1915 at earliest. Additionally, I mentioned that S/4236 was wounded with the 1st Bn., well records show that S/4237 and S/4239 were killed serving with the same battalion. S/4237 Robert Nelson landed in France the same day as Samuel and S/4239 Robert Cringan the same day as S/4236 Angus Ross. So, until a check can be made of the medal rolls, I would lean (heavily) towards posted to the 1st Seaforths.

Stuart

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Good detective work, that man. ;)

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Agreed, great detailed analysis, thanks.

Brian

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Hi

I've came across this post searching for Angus Ross. It is my belief that he joined with his brothers Charles and Archiebald.

Charles was in the 9th (service ) battalion S/7984 then posted to the 1st.

Does anyone have more information on Angus S/4236, as it is previously mentioned that he was in the first?

Mike

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Further to my previous post, Samuel's early entry date (19th March 1915) rules out, at least initially, being posted to a Service battalion; they didn't land in France until May 1915 at earliest. Additionally, I mentioned that S/4236 was wounded with the 1st Bn., well records show that S/4237 and S/4239 were killed serving with the same battalion. S/4237 Robert Nelson landed in France the same day as Samuel and S/4239 Robert Cringan the same day as S/4236 Angus Ross. So, until a check can be made of the medal rolls, I would lean (heavily) towards posted to the 1st Seaforths.Stuart

Your leanings are 100% correct :) The 1st it is.

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You need to search Ancestry or TNA for the correct MIC. There are at least two Seaforth called Angus Ross and a number of A Ross also Seaforth. This particular s/4236 Angus Ross transferred from Seaforth to RE Waterworks and Railways if that helps identify or eliminate him.

Edit: you might need Ancestry census information anyway to identify the correct man.

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Just curious

I hope you don't mind me butting in.Was a Territorial batt numbered say from one to a thousand or two.

I enclose Seaforths who were wounded in May 1915 and the number doesn't go over 3000.

As I say I'm just curious and I don't have much knowledge of units etc.

Regards

Gerry

Seafoths.pdf

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Just curiousI hope you don't mind me butting in.Was a Territorial batt numbered say from one to a thousand or two.I enclose Seaforths who were wounded in May 1915 and the number doesn't go over 3000.As I say I'm just curious and I don't have much knowledge of units etc.RegardsGerry

Yes they went higher until the long numbers were allocated. My granddad's cousin was 3936.

Edit: There were also men with the same service number in the same regiment but different battalions until the long numbers were allocated. The Long, Long, Trail has a section on service numbers.

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Thank you seaforths,I will check that out

Regards

Gerry

You may be interested in this little news item.

It's from a soldier from the 1st Seaforths who arrived in Dublin on a Hospital ship on the 29 March 1915.

wounded March 1915.pdf

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Thank you seaforths,I will check that outRegardsGerryYou may be interested in this little news item.It's from a soldier from the 1st Seaforths who arrived in Dublin on a Hospital ship on the 29 March 1915.

Thanks Don Don, that is interesting. I will try and check The Scotsman for others.

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