iain mchenry Posted 9 January , 2010 Share Posted 9 January , 2010 Would any kind soul be able to post or email me a section of the Body Density map, from post war battlefield clearances, that covered the area of Poelcappelle village and its immediate area. Many thanks Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Banning Posted 9 January , 2010 Share Posted 9 January , 2010 Hi Iain - emailed to you. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislock Posted 9 January , 2010 Share Posted 9 January , 2010 And thank you from me Jeremy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Lees Posted 9 January , 2010 Share Posted 9 January , 2010 Are body density maps widely available? I have seen one for the Flers area of the Somme, but would be very interested to know if there is one for the area around Maltzhorn Farm, Guillemont. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geraint Posted 9 January , 2010 Share Posted 9 January , 2010 Good point Ken. I would appreciate the same for the Mametz Wood area as well. Were such clearances rigorously mapped in every specific battlefield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Banning Posted 10 January , 2010 Share Posted 10 January , 2010 Were such clearances rigorously mapped in every specific battlefield? In answer to the above, yes. I seem to recall some maps were on the WFA website for some time. No idea if they still are after their revamp. If you have Peter Barton’s ‘Somme – a new panoramic perspective’ then the best body density map of the Somme battlefields is on pp.308-9. However, whilst Guillemont is on there, Maltz Horn Farm is just of the bottom of the page whilst Mametz Wood is just off to the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Lees Posted 10 January , 2010 Share Posted 10 January , 2010 Are there any body density maps on the WFA Map CDs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Woodger Posted 10 January , 2010 Share Posted 10 January , 2010 Hi The Somme discs from WFA contain Body density maps for 57C, 57D, 62C and 62D. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem49 Posted 10 January , 2010 Share Posted 10 January , 2010 Hi Iain - emailed to you. cheers Jeremy do they give the locations as well, such as Ferdan House or just a basic map with body density figures? Cheers Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Lees Posted 10 January , 2010 Share Posted 10 January , 2010 The Somme discs from WFA contain Body density maps for 57C, 57D, 62C and 62D. Thak you for that Peter. It looks like a purchase is in order. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Banning Posted 10 January , 2010 Share Posted 10 January , 2010 Jeremy do they give the locations as well, such as Ferdan House or just a basic map with body density figures? Some wartime cemeteries are annotated but specific strongpoints (such as Ferdan House) are not mentioned. Each square measures 230x230m and the numbers in each square correspond to the total bodies found in that area in the postwar search by Army Exhumation Companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Woodger Posted 10 January , 2010 Share Posted 10 January , 2010 the numbers in each square correspond to the total bodies found in that area in the postwar search by Army Exhumation Companies. Although this is a widely held belief it is not correct. The main concentration excercise by the Labour Companies started in the middle of 1919. As a preparation for the work the Graves Registration Units prepared these maps to show where there were registered burials outside of registered cemeteries. These maps were then issued to the concentration/clearance teams. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem49 Posted 10 January , 2010 Share Posted 10 January , 2010 Thanks to you both. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Banning Posted 10 January , 2010 Share Posted 10 January , 2010 I stand corrected Peter. Have you any further info or sources about this? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Woodger Posted 10 January , 2010 Share Posted 10 January , 2010 Hi I have compared the blue figures in the squares with a set of the exhumation burial returns fot the area and there is no corrolation. One map I have has a correction made to the Blue figure in one square and the correction is dated April 1919 before the clearance started. Some of the cemeteries shown are the ones that were concentrated to other sites. The numbers buried in these cemeteries are not shown in the Blue figures. To go to the trouble of producing maps across the western front of the bodies found but not including those burired in the cemeteries cleared would be a pointless excercise at a time when all involved had a great deal of constuctive work to do. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geraint Posted 10 January , 2010 Share Posted 10 January , 2010 In answer to the above, yes. If you have Peter Barton's 'Somme – a new panoramic perspective' then the best body density map of the Somme battlefields is on pp.308-9. However, whilst Guillemont is on there, Maltz Horn Farm is just of the bottom of the page whilst Mametz Wood is just off to the left. Thanks Jeremy. I do have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Lees Posted 10 January , 2010 Share Posted 10 January , 2010 Me too. Thanks Jeremy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ypres Posted 15 February , 2010 Share Posted 15 February , 2010 Hi Iain - emailed to you. cheers any chance that you could send me one of the same map.jim. email perscy705@btinternet.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herekawe Posted 6 June , 2010 Share Posted 6 June , 2010 Hi Does anyone have or would be prepared to email me the High Wood- Flers area Body Density Maps? Ta James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 6 June , 2010 Share Posted 6 June , 2010 James There is a copy posted by Norman (seadog) on this thread: http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/l....php/t3603.html Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herekawe Posted 6 June , 2010 Share Posted 6 June , 2010 James There is a copy posted by Norman (seadog) on this thread: http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/l....php/t3603.html Mel Excellent - Thanks Was it ever resolved why the square containing High Wood was ommitted? The casualites in the area Wood Lane between High and Deville Wood are shocking. I am assuming that this is from the clearance after the war, so a proportion of bodies, the easily found ones if you like were already removed after the Somme battle and before the area again fell to the Germans. I am also assuming that this is Commonwealth dead only - not Germans? James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnreed Posted 22 May , 2012 Share Posted 22 May , 2012 Has anyone the file names of the Body Density Maps on WFA Mapping the Front disc Somme map squares 57C and 57D its driving me crazy trying to locate them. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnreed Posted 6 June , 2012 Share Posted 6 June , 2012 Cancel my last i found the map not in the map folder but in supplements. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog Posted 7 June , 2012 Share Posted 7 June , 2012 Here is a direct link to the map mentioned in post 20 just click on the image to enlarge: http://www.flickr.co...157603237480463 The figures are truly horrendous. Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tipperary Posted 7 June , 2012 Share Posted 7 June , 2012 Definately drives home the enormity of the human carnage when you see these figures.john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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