Brig-Gen C G Rawling CIE,CMG,DSO,FRGS

[armourersergeant]

I wondered if a knowledgeable pal could confirm that these awards or such like are in the correct order?

Companion of the Indian Empire

Cross of St Michael and St George

Distinguished Service order

Fellow of the Royal Geographic Society

Would the last one be something put to a military man at this date?

Regards

Arm

[charlesmessenger]

Arm

The order should CMG CIE DSO. FRGS would not be put after his name in a military context.

Charles M

[Ron Clifton]

Hello arm

Charles is right, but I should mention that CMG is Companion (not Cross) of the Order of St Michael and St George.

If he were guest of honour at a civic dinner or similar event you should add the FRGS but not in the Army List or other military list.

Ron

[armourersergeant]

Thank you both.

Of course it is companion, my haste to type!

The FRGS I had only seen used once and thought it not appropriate but of course yes depending on the context I guess.

Thanks again both

Arm

[SiegeGunner]

Is there/was there a published guide to etiquette, protocol and precedence in these matters?

[David B]

If you google something like " medal precedence" you can find lotsa stuff on the subject.

David

[Ron Clifton]

Is there/was there a published guide to etiquette, protocol and precedence in these matters?

Each issue of oficers' Dress Regulations had a list of the orders, decorations and medals in precedence order. They are also given, as far as the orders are concerned, in each year's Whitaker's Almanac.

Orders and Medals by Taprell Dorling also has a list, and medal dealers such as Spinks would also be able to supply a list.

Ron

[SiegeGunner]

Thanks chaps. What source did printers, town clerks, journalists, etc, rely on at the time of the GW?

[Ron Clifton]

Probably Whitaker's Almanac, which has been published annually since the late nineteenth century. It is even referred to by Sherlock Holmes, IIRC, in The Valley of Fear.

Ron

[SiegeGunner]

Thanks again, Ron. I must remember to put Whitaker's on my wish list for the upcoming unmentionable seasonal festivity.

[Steven Broomfield]

Hmmmm ... do we suspect that Mr Gunner is expecting a letter from Her Majesty in the near future? Checking where he stands (or sits) when up against Baronets, Dames, Earls and Marchionesses? Are we to expect a Sir Siege Gunner? I shall await the Daily Telegraph on New Year's Day with interest.

[bmac]

Thanks again, Ron. I must remember to put Whitaker's on my wish list for the upcoming unmentionable seasonal festivity.

And jolly fascinating old ones are too. I have the 1909, 11 and 12 editions (as well as some from the 20s and 30s) and they have lists of almost everything imaginable, for example a complete list of surviving VC holders and all of the members of all of the orders from the ISO upwards. And, did you know that the number of certified pilots in Germany a the end if 1910 was 32. Of course you did, silly me. But did you know one them was Prince Henry of Prussia who flew an Euler. Essential stuff.

[SiegeGunner]

Are we to expect a Sir Siege Gunner?

Alas not - just interested in how people not regularly concerned with such things were able to discover what the 'proper form' was.