IAN.MCLEOD Posted 23 November , 2009 Posted 23 November , 2009 Hi Everyone, Has anyone a list of survivors who were captured? Best regards Ian
sadsac Posted 25 November , 2009 Posted 25 November , 2009 Hello Ian, here are two of the survivors of E14 - more later ; BOWHAY William G A SPO D/K 5186 D.o.B ; 170602 P.o.B ; Whitenose Weymouth ADM 877 CARTLEDGE Albert PO TGM C/J C/J 3864 D.o.B ; 230593 P.o.B ; Sheffield ADM 654 POW Sadsac
IAN.MCLEOD Posted 26 November , 2009 Author Posted 26 November , 2009 Hello Ian, here are two of the survivors of E14 - more later ; BOWHAY William G A SPO D/K 5186 D.o.B ; 170602 P.o.B ; Whitenose Weymouth ADM 877 CARTLEDGE Albert PO TGM C/J C/J 3864 D.o.B ; 230593 P.o.B ; Sheffield ADM 654 POW Sadsac Hello Sadsac! Thanks again I have 9 listed which includes the above as follows the Problem is these 2 ratings which are errors and need resolving hopefully! Reuben Mitchell AB 7276 and William Henry Pritchard Telegraphist K28154 these don`t exist and I have mislaid the source I used. These errors were pointed out by Don Kindell when he was checking mine and his lists! These ratings check out just need confirmation they were on the E 14! Robert Martin Milburn ERA3 M4196 Robert Andace Perkins PO J4078 George Francis Redman STOKER1 K26072 William Ephraim Reed STOKER1 K17465 Charles Miles Timbrell SIGNALMAN J15246
sadsac Posted 27 November , 2009 Posted 27 November , 2009 IAN, quite understand your problem re MITCHELL & PRITCHARD !! This is because you should have ; MITCHELL Ronald AB 7476 RAN - Note ; RAN - he was DD E14 not a survivor. PRICHARD William Henry (note NOT PriTchard) TEL D/J 36101 D.o.B ; 011298 P.o.B ; Pwihelli Caenarvon He is noted as POW Turkey. Mitchell R A N - Something for DB to poke his nose into !! More on others later. Sadsac
kin47 Posted 27 November , 2009 Posted 27 November , 2009 Hello REUBEN JOSEPH EDWIN MITCHELL, 7476. From his R.A.N. service record (which are on line free - wish TNA would do the same). He was a Prisoner of War from E 14. He returned home at the end of 1918 and died 16 March 1934. Many thanks, Dennis, for bringing this to light. All best don
sadsac Posted 27 November , 2009 Posted 27 November , 2009 Hello Don, thanks for your input. Good that we `collaborate together'. Must admit to having `wrong' Mitchell put in - yes it was REUBEN M & NOT Ronald as I entered - saw Ron & without a check put that in instead of REU - if you see what I mean. In my fle I had that he was `lost' in E14 but further check has that as `wrong'!! Did not know that he returned home & `Crossed-the-Bar' in 1934. So thanks for that. Do you know his `home-town' & when born ?? As to PriTchard & Prichard - I agonised over that some years ago, but after getting ADM 188 on him that must be !! I suspect that it has been written down `wrong', but thats the RECORD - SO !!! Regards Sadsac
IAN.MCLEOD Posted 27 November , 2009 Author Posted 27 November , 2009 Hello REUBEN JOSEPH EDWIN MITCHELL, 7476. From his R.A.N. service record (which are on line free - wish TNA would do the same). He was a Prisoner of War from E 14. He returned home at the end of 1918 and died 16 March 1934. Many thanks, Dennis, for bringing this to light. All best don hELLO SADSAC/ DON tHANKS AGAIN THAT`S RESOLVED THEM! AND DON SAVE YOUR MONEY! YOU KNOW i LIVE LOCALLY AND CAN RESEARCH AT THE NA .
kin47 Posted 27 November , 2009 Posted 27 November , 2009 Hello MITCHELL REUBEN JOSEPH EDWIN : Service Number - 7476 : Date of birth - 28 Jul 1894 : Place of birth - BALLARAT VIC : Place of enlistment - Unknown : Next of Kin - Unknown. Collaboration is the key to all research. GWF is a tremendous asset with tremendous members. All best don
sadsac Posted 28 November , 2009 Posted 28 November , 2009 DON, quite agree re `tremendous chaps' on this Forum. Got another `what, what ?? For you to look in to. Any ideas re the following that I have done for DB in E14 Thread. This chap was E41 survivor DEANE - this has thrown up an `anomaly' ! On checking I see that DEANE has name Charles Drane - BUT on further check his No. 311070 gives DRANE Charles ??!! So, my mistake, or the Record Card or file ADM 188 @ NA ??? Must look up next PRO visit. Any ideas. Sadsac
kin47 Posted 28 November , 2009 Posted 28 November , 2009 Hello Sadsac I think you need to look at his card his record. DB and I have had a number of men whose names were misread when they were entered. Using Calligraphy for the last name is pretty, but sometimes hard to read: HINGSTON read as KINGSTON comes to mind. DEANE morphing into DRANE could very well be another misread. All best don
Signals Posted 28 November , 2009 Posted 28 November , 2009 Your right Don, i remember Hurlock having his birthdate wrong, which they fixed to me. Cheers DB
sadsac Posted 29 November , 2009 Posted 29 November , 2009 Yes agree Don, many little `mistooks' even in PRO - inputter having had a good / bad night out !!!! Will `sniff' on another visit Sadsac
Trisha Posted 11 November , 2012 Posted 11 November , 2012 Reuben Joseph Edwin Mitchell was my g-grand uncle. He died August 16, 1954. National Archives of Australia has information on him and also if you check http://upperiscope.com.au/ you will find additional info. Some military historians say he should have received the VC for his actions on the E14. I have actually read a letter about his actions on the E14. As a result of his survivial he was a POW in Turkey. My father met him once, but he died before I was born. Earlier on in his career his on on the AE2, an Australian submarine.
sadsac Posted 12 November , 2012 Posted 12 November , 2012 Hello Trisha, here, if you do not have it is your GGrandfather's Submarine Service Record ; MITCHELL REUBEN JOSEPH EDWIN AB ST 7476 RAN NE RAN 280794 090313 PELORUS E14 151118 ADAMANT E14 150331 EUROPA DD E14 030218 SENIOR IN RATING 090213 JOINED S/M's 090313 SURVIVOR E14 COLLISION TO AUSTRALIA 1918 DD 1934 P.o.B ; Ballarat Victoria Australia Sadsac
Trisha Posted 12 November , 2012 Posted 12 November , 2012 Hello Sadsac, thank you for your reply and information. There must be an error on the sub service records as my father met him in the early 50's and births, deaths and marriages confirm 1954 as his date of death. Also http://upperiscope.com.au/ confirms 1954 and on the National Archivies he has service records that go up to 1938 and he is the next of kin for his sons in WWII. I wasn't aware until a few days ago that E14 had been found last June. The AE2 that he was on earlier in the war was only found in the last few years as well. Thanks Trish
Trisha Posted 12 November , 2012 Posted 12 November , 2012 Ballarat, Victoria for you who don't live in Australia is about 100km from Melbourne. Reuben was born in Ballarat, but I believe he only lived there for a few years after his return. He moved around Victoira and New South Wales. He worked on a light house for a while I believe. He died and is buried in Melbourne, Victoria. I note his next of kin is unknown. It was his father Thomas Mitchell. However Thomas died in 1918 whilst Reuben was a POW, so his mother Alice would then have been his NOK. Reubens father was born in Northumberland, England and on his maternal side his grandparents were Cornish, so he was virtually English anyway.
sadsac Posted 13 November , 2012 Posted 13 November , 2012 Trish, apologies for getting the wrong date DD. Will alter card . 1934 / 1954 - small error, but poor `inputting' !! Sadsac
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