timothybramble Posted 10 November , 2009 Share Posted 10 November , 2009 Hi All, I am trying to track down what part my great Grandfather played in the first World War... I’ve tried searching the records on Ancestry with no luck; I do however believe these may be incomplete. I thought I would try here to see if anyone might know or at least give me some idea to what regiment he might have been in. The details I have for him are below: Name: William Bramble Birth: 30 Jan 1888 in Brampton, London, England, However he was living in Pendleton, Lancashire, England in 1901 at the age of 13 Death: 22 Apr 1925 in Pendleton, Lancashire, England He married Ellen Davies in Greater Manchester, Lancashire, England in Sept 1913 His father was John Bramble 1852 – 1917 His mother was Adelaide Jane Richardson 1864 – 1902 His occupation was tailor Would love to hear off anyone who might be able to help, Thanks for reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonmate Posted 10 November , 2009 Share Posted 10 November , 2009 B84 There are quite a few W BRAMBLEs on the Medal Cards, please post any further Christian names if he had any.It will whittle down the list ! Sotonmate Edit: No W BRAMBLE in Service records or Pension records born in London 1888. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothybramble Posted 10 November , 2009 Author Share Posted 10 November , 2009 Hi Sotonmate, thanks for your reply, William never had a middle name, which unfortunately never helps the tracking process. I understand you must get lots of these requests on here and I really appreciate the help... thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonmate Posted 10 November , 2009 Share Posted 10 November , 2009 B84 Therefore I feel it is a bit of a lottery. There is nothing obvious to link him to a particular unit. If he volunteered (26 in 1914 so he could have) it might show a Regiment from his home area. If he was conscripted after 1915 he would join whatever Regiment he was sent to ! Anyway, I'll have a look and suggest something later. In the meantime you might like to consider seeing if he is on an Absent Voters List for 1918,where it will show his usual home address and what unit he was serving in at that time. Then you can work back and find his right Medal Card and begin to trace his war service. Sotonmate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonmate Posted 10 November , 2009 Share Posted 10 November , 2009 B84 There are seven to choose from,all William BRAMBLE with no second Christian names. I will list them so that you can work at them: 1) 809 and 730098 Royal Field Artillery. This one was Territorial Force,who entered France on 21.11.1915. 2) 24143 East Surrey Regiment and 43495 Bedfordshire Regiment.Joined after 1915,Discharged later as unfit (wounds or sickness) and issued with Silver War Badge. 3) 4973 and 27484 Notts and Derbys Regiment and 65694 Suffolk Regiment. Joined after 1915. Silver War Badge later,as above. 4) R4/069492 Army Service Corps. after Dec 1915. 5) 610902 British West Indies Regiment after 1915. (Discount NOTHING !),and, 6) 3818 Royal Flying Corps. Entered France 24.7.1915 You say he died in 1925. I wonder if it was as a result of war service,It might even be that he was one of the two here who were discharged with a Silver War Badge. For your interest the double entries for Regiments was a common occurrence,often those taken out of the line due to wounds or sickness often came back to the next needy unit. That's it,he's probably one of these. It is also possible that he was in the Army and stayed here in the UK,thus becoming entitled to no medals. You need to dig among the family where you've never dug before ! Good hunting ! Sotonmate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Soul Posted 10 November , 2009 Share Posted 10 November , 2009 Hi, Salford does have an Absent Voters List so, if he was still in uniform and abroad when it was compiled in early-1918 (?), then he should be listed on it - with his basic military details. I don't know where you would access it but if no-one picks this up then suggest you start a new thread asking specifically about it. It's your best bet. Best wishes. Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted 10 November , 2009 Share Posted 10 November , 2009 Hi, As Andy suggests the Absent Voters List is you best bet, you will find these available at Salford Local History Library (after reading a thread on the Salford Forum I presume you are able to visit). Best of luck. Garry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Soul Posted 10 November , 2009 Share Posted 10 November , 2009 Thanks Gary. Another suggestion is: if he had any children born during the war - when he was on active service - then their Birth Certificate(s) should give his military details too. Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothybramble Posted 11 November , 2009 Author Share Posted 11 November , 2009 Thanks guys, unfortunately I can’t make it to the Salford Local History Museum as I have recently moved to Canada, so maybe I will be able to find an absence voters list online, if not ill check in February when I am back in the UK. Thanks your help, you have given me a couple of good avenues to go down, hopefully these will be successful . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted 11 November , 2009 Share Posted 11 November , 2009 Bramble, Called at the Library tonight (open late Wednesdays). Could not find William, not all men were listed in the AVLs, or I may not have spotted him, so do not take that as an indication that he didn't serve. I did find the following people listed all tailors with Hy Bramble & Sons, 61 Broad St Alfred Bramble 401526 Labour Co Arthur Bramble 275755 8th Manchesters Alfred Septimus Bramble 275785 8th Manchesters Clifton Bramble 275654 2/7th Manchesters May be relatives? Regards, Garry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothybramble Posted 12 November , 2009 Author Share Posted 12 November , 2009 Thanks Shred, I really appreciate you taking the time to check for me... I am amazed by how helpfully everyone is here! Yeah, looking at my tree I believe these would have been Williams’s cousins I am going to request some old birth certificates to see if they are any help to me as he did have a daughter born during the war. Thanks again everyon,e you have been a great help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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