27thBN Posted 6 November , 2009 Posted 6 November , 2009 I thought i would have ago at getting any addition info on a group i have to CSM Charles E? Gillott DCM and bar 455/W RIDING Fd Co RE TF I have his MIC card LG for both citations cant find his service record have had a pretty good look, its a very nice group dcm* 15 trio, mid, tfem medal .But at this stage other than knowing he was at the landing of gallipoli and then in 1916 went to france i know nothing about him .Rare group but no luck on research yet .Ancestry usually is great(for other peoples groups) but alas zip so far.Maybe i missed him ,anybody help ..a bit ,at this stage i still do not know his second name which does not help!! thanks MC
IPT Posted 6 November , 2009 Posted 6 November , 2009 Not much, i'm afraid... A possibility this may be him; Gillott. C.E. Served. St Mary's Church Roll of Honour, Bramall Lane, Sheffield From looking at FreeBDM and 1911 census, Charles Ernest born 1897, looks more likely than the various Charles Edwards. (You say you have his MIC card. There are three different cards for him on National Archives. Have you seen them all?) IPT
27thBN Posted 6 November , 2009 Author Posted 6 November , 2009 Not much, i'm afraid... A possibility this may be him; Gillott. C.E. Served. St Mary's Church Roll of Honour, Bramall Lane, Sheffield From looking at FreeBDM and 1911 census, Charles Ernest born 1897, looks more likely than the various Charles Edwards. (You say you have his MIC card. There are three different cards for him on National Archives. Have you seen them all?) IPT Well that's a start his citations state he was from Sheffield .But and its a problem he was at pre war soldier so in 1915 he would have only been 18 and a cpl ,But stranger things have happened .As to the NA no i have not looked as i found his MIC on ancestry but will have a look he was acting csm by late 1917 does not fit the mold(CSM at 20 ?) I know 2/lts often were that age but a CSM was as you are aware a senior nco rank usually by the stories you read 6 foot 30 years plus and tough as nails(of course not all) .But thanks very much i will have a look at NA and see MC
IPT Posted 6 November , 2009 Posted 6 November , 2009 Sorry, that was a typo. Births Sep 1887 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GILLOTT Charles Ernest Sheffield 9c 431 It's only circumstantial at this stage, of course...
27thBN Posted 6 November , 2009 Author Posted 6 November , 2009 Sorry, that was a typo. Births Sep 1887 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GILLOTT Charles Ernest Sheffield 9c 431 It's only circumstantial at this stage, of course... Thats great this looks like the way to go ,as to my CSM being 30 as a stereotype well i think that's about as close as you can get ,could you please pm me as to getting a copy of the 1911 census from you would be very much appreciated. Again thanks even having just those two details the church and middle name help heaps MC
IPT Posted 6 November , 2009 Posted 6 November , 2009 Unfortunately, you'd have to buy some credits to view the actual census; http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/results...px?x=1271339103 May confirm or rule out whether it's your man. And here's my suspect in 1901, at 13 - Iron Moulders Apprentice http://www.1901censusonline.com/results.as...i=person_search
27thBN Posted 7 November , 2009 Author Posted 7 November , 2009 Unfortunately, you'd have to buy some credits to view the actual census; http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/results...px?x=1271339103 May confirm or rule out whether it's your man. And here's my suspect in 1901, at 13 - Iron Moulders Apprentice http://www.1901censusonline.com/results.as...i=person_search No problem you have been very helpful I have copied the links and will take it from there Thanks MC PS Is wirral about 5 km north of Sheffield I believe being were you are ?
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