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Thanks Doug, your help is much appreciated. Here are some pictures from the album. This one is Jasper on a route march. The signpost points towards Totland something and Alum Bay in the direction of the march and towards Freshwater Bay at right angles to it. The cap badges are not clear but appear to be DCLI which would make this the 3rd (reserve) battalion who were based at Freshwater between May 1915 and the end of the war.

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"Jasper" may have been Second Lieutenant Jasper George Olivier, 3rd Btn attached 7th Btn, DCLI, KiA 16th September 1916.

Ashey might have been Second Lieutenant Edwin Ashurst Grigg, DCLI. There is an Olive Grigg, Servant, 16, House Maid Domestic, born Advent, Cornwall in the 1911 census entry for the Hoblyn family. This may of course be a coincidence and nothing more.

Tremonie might in fact be Iremonie and could possibly be the nick name of Lieutenant John Atherwood Iremonger Watts, DCLI.

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There is this in the 1911 for Jasper but not very helpful:

Registration District: Fylde

Sub District: Fleetwood

Parish: Fleetwood

County: Lancashire

Ref: RG14PN25474 RD477 SD4 ED19 SN9999

Address: Rossall School, Rossall, Fleetwood, Lancashire

Jasper George Olivier, Student, 14, single, Born Kent, Dover

1901 census

Civil Parish: Wye

Town: Wye

County: Kent

RG13; Piece: 787; Folio: 8; Page: 7.

Address: The Vicarage

Henry E Olivier, Head, M, 35, Clergyman (Church of England), Wiltshire, Wilton

Gertrude J C Olivier, Wife, M, 32, London, Bloomsbury

Jasper G Olivier, Son, 4, Kent, Dover,

Arthur B Olivier, Son, 2, Kent, Dover

Martin J Olivier, Son, 1, Kent, Wye

Mary A Kedge, Servant, Single, 60, Parlour Maid Domestic, London, Marylebone

Ada Proctor, Servant, Single, 32, Nurse Domestic, Suffolk, Mettenham

Bettie E Pepper, Servant, Single, 23, Cook Domestic, Kent, Godmersham

Florence J Maple, Servant, Single, 17, Housemaid Domestic, Kent, Harbledown

Doug

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This might be Edwin Grigg in 1901:

Civil Parish: St Mary Magdalene

Ecclesiastical parish: Launceston St Mary Magdalene

County/Island: Cornwall

Registration district: Launceston

Sub-registration district: Launceston

Ref: RG13; Piece: 2183; Folio: 16; Page: 24

Address: Dunhever Rd

Alfred H Grigg, Head, M, 42, Bankers Clerk, Cornwall, Launceston

Mary E Grigg, Wife, M, 37, Staffs, Stoke on Trent

Flora E Grigg, Daur, S, 14, Cornwall, Launceston

Lettice Grigg, Daur, S, 11, Cornwall, Launceston

Edwin A Grigg, Son, S, 9, Cornwall, Launceston

Edith H Butler, Visitor, M, 47, Cornwall, Launceston

Blanche E Penney , Servant, S, 18, General Servant Domestic, Cornwall, St Stephens by Launceston

Doug

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Doug,

thank you for your continuing help with this. I have a separate thread on the DCLI officers mentioned in the album in the soldiers section of this forum and it is begining to make a case that Jasper George Olivier is the young officer in the album.

Do you have any thoughts on Edwin Ashurst Grigg being Ashey and John Atherwold (Atlewold) Iremonger Watts being Iremonie?

Simon.

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1911

Registration District: Falmouth

Sub District: Falmouth

Parish: Falmouth

County: Cornwall

Ref: RG14PN13893 RG78PN824 RD297 SD2 ED6 SN270

Address: 21 Trelawney Road

Henry Pellowe, Head, 50, Married, Mason, Worker, Falmouth, Cornwall

Sophia Pellowe, Wife, 54, Married, Married 23 years, 4 children, 2 living, 2 deceased, Truro, Cornwall

Bessie Pellowe, Daughter, 19, Single, Dressmaker, Falmouth, Cornwall

Mildred Morris Pellowe, Daughter, 12, Single, School full time, Falmouth, Cornwall

Christin Eyde Horsvig, Boarder, 39, Single, Cansular (sic) Clerk, Cansulsa Shopbrokers, Norway, Resident, Norwegian

Edwin Grigg, Boarder, 19, Single, Bank Clerk, Lloyds Bank, Launceston, Cornwall

Doug

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Doug,

thank you for your continuing help with this. I have a separate thread on the DCLI officers mentioned in the album in the soldiers section of this forum and it is begining to make a case that Jasper George Olivier is the young officer in the album.

Do you have any thoughts on Edwin Ashurst Grigg being Ashey and John Atherwold (Atlewold) Iremonger Watts being Iremonie?

Simon.

Hi Simon,

Ashey is certainly likely for Grigg I think. I am less comfortable with Iremonie for Watts though - it is not something that I personally would use as a nickname when you could settle for John or Watty. :)

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Doug,

Edwin Ashurst Grigg being aged 9 in 1901 would be age 24 in 1916 so he is of the right age. I will need to find out if he served with the 3rd battalion DCLI in 1916 in order to place him in Freshwater.

Simon.

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Ashey is certainly likely for Grigg I think. I am less comfortable with Iremonie for Watts though - it is not something that I personally would use as a nickname when you could settle for John or Watty. :)

I am not entirely convinced either but I cannot find any other connection with an officer in the DCLI based on the word that appears in the album. The capital letter looks very similar to the J in Jasper and I had read it as a T but I would be a possibility. With all the captions in the album, the card pages have acted like blotting paper and made the writing less distinct.

Simon.

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Ah,

Now this would be the marriage of Carina M Thurburn to Richard C Peache:

September Quarter 1915, Hendon, 3a 963

Handy having an unusual name and with the date specified.

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1891 census:

Civil parish: Thames Ditton

Town: Thames Ditton

County: Surrey

Registration district: Kingston

Sub-registration district: Esher

Ref: RG12; Piece: 614; Folio 118; Page 3

Address: Portsmouth Rd

James C Peache, Head, M, 39, Civil Engineer, Gloucestershire, Downend

Marion A Peache, Wife, M, 25, Gloucestershire, Wapley

Dorothy A Peache, Daur, 4, Surrey, Thames Ditton

Richard C Peache, Son, 1, Surrey, Thames Ditton

William W Peache, Son, 6/12, Surrey, Thames Ditton

Mabel Hart, Servant, S, 27, Head Nurse, Kent, Belvedere

Maria J Young, Servant, S, 22, House & Parlor Maid, Devonshire, Devonport

Jessie A Tompson, Servant, S, 23, Under Nurse, London

Elizabeth A Angell, Servant, Widow, 62, Cook, London Wall

Doug

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1901 census

Civil parish: Rottingdean

Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret

Town: Rottingdean

County: Sussex

Registration district: Lewes

Sub-registration district: Newhaven

Ref: RG13; Piece: 919; Folio: 67; Page: 11

Address: Private School

Richard Peache, Pupil, 13, Thames Ditton, Surrey

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1911 census

Registration District: St Columb

Sub District: St Columb

Parish: Newquay

County: Cornwall

Ref: RG14PN13730 RG78PN811 RD294 SD2 ED10 SN34

Address: 6 Cliff Terrace New-Quay

Anne Sivian Lanly?, Head, 80, Widow, St Sith, Cornwall

Thomas Henry Adams, Son in law, 55, Married, Married 18 years, children none, Stationary Engine ?, St Breage, Cornwall

Mary ? Adams, Daughter, 57, Married, Maragin St Arlan

Selina Cocking, Servant, 16, Single, General Servant Domestic, St Columb Minor, Cornwall

Miles Smiley, Boarder, 21, Single, Engineer Student, ? Hampstead

Richard Coventry Peache, Boarder, 21, Single, Engineer Student, ?, Kent

Eric Caines Wilson, Baorder, 20, Single, Engineer Student, Thames Ditton, Surrey

(Householder obviously confused birthplace for Richard with one of the others - she also has lousy writing)

Doug

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Inbound shipping lists;

Port of embarkation: La Plate

Port at which landed: London

Class: First

Citizen of: Argentine

Country of last permanent residence: Monte Video

Country of intended future residence: England

Arrival Date: 6 May 1912

Ship: Highland Loch

Line: Nelson

Thurburn, Mr Reginald, 42

Thurburn, Miss Carina, 20

Thurburn, Miss Nora, 19

Doug

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