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Can anyone please advise me when in 1916 were the territorials renumbered?my great uncle was a pre war territorial Glasgow highlander 1644, renumbered 330177 if been told somtime in 1916 but when.I know this is an odd question but it will help me to place him during the Great war.Thanks GERARD

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Weldon, William

Highland Light Infantry 1644 Private

Highland Light Infantry 330177 Private

The numbers 330001 to 355000 were allocated to the 8th Battalion, Highland Light Infantry. I think this was early in 1917, but I do not know with certainly, Glasgow is well outside my own area.

Tony.

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The actual renumbering was supposed to occur 1 March 1917, the numbers were known late 1916.

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The numbers 330001 to 355000 were allocated to the 8th Battalion, Highland Light Infantry.

Hi Tony,

The above information is incorrect - did you get it from the Long, Long Trail? This block was actually assigned to the 9th Battalion, the Glasgow Highlanders. All the HLI renumbering information on the LLT is wrong, it should be:

200001-240000 4 5

240001-280000 5 6

280001-305000 6 7

305001-330000 7 8

330001-355000 8 9

355001-380000 9 21

As stated, the official date of change to 6-digit numbers for infantry was 1st March 1917.

Cheers,

Stuart

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LLT also had an error for the territorial battalions of the Sherwood Foresters last time I checked.

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As stated, the official date of change to 6-digit numbers for infantry was 1st March 1917.

Agreed Stuart, although I think in reality some of the Territorial Associations stole a bit of a march on this date. Evidence suggests that the King's Own Royal Lancaster Regiment certainly did, as there are men in the 1st/4th Battalion (and the Home Service analogues) who died up-to six or seven weeks before this date who got renumbered - and they don't fall into the "missing in action" category. Either that or it took a very long time indeed for their deaths to be reported back to the TFCA (which I doubt).

Best wishes.

Andy.

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I quite agree, Andy. I'm sure the new numbers were worked out at least several weeks in advance of the official use date. That line in my reply was more to confirm to Gerard that since his great uncle's MIC gives his 6-digit number, then he was still on the regiment's nominal roll on 1st March 1917.

Andy H - I think the Foresters' info was corrected a little while ago. I did send a couple of messages regarding the HLI details but never received a reply.

Cheers,

Stuart

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ACI 2414 which lists the allotment of the 6 digit TF numbers is dated 23rd December 1916.

Jon

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I quite agree, Andy. I'm sure the new numbers were worked out at least several weeks in advance of the official use date. That line in my reply was more to confirm to Gerard that since his great uncle's MIC gives his 6-digit number, then he was still on the regiment's nominal roll on 1st March 1917.

Hi, thaks for the advice,does this mean that my great uncle William Weldon 1644/330177 was still on active service by March 1917?Thanks GERARD

Andy H - I think the Foresters' info was corrected a little while ago. I did send a couple of messages regarding the HLI details but never received a reply.

Cheers,

Stuart

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ACI 2414 which lists the allotment of the 6 digit TF numbers is dated 23rd December 1916.

does this confirm my great uncle would still be active with the batt dec 1916-march 1917? Ta very much .GERARD

Jon

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The actual renumbering was supposed to occur 1 March 1917, the numbers were known late 1916.

THANKING YOU FOR THE RESPONSE,does this confirm that my great uncle Glasgow Highlander 1644/330177 was on active service with the batt late 1916 -march 1917.Thanking you again,GERARD

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I quite agree, Andy. I'm sure the new numbers were worked out at least several weeks in advance of the official use date. That line in my reply was more to confirm to Gerard that since his great uncle's MIC gives his 6-digit number, then he was still on the regiment's nominal roll on 1st March 1917.

sORRY FOR LATE RESPONSE,dOES THIS CONFIRM THAT my great uncle was on active service late 1916-1st march 1917.GERARD

Andy H - I think the Foresters' info was corrected a little while ago. I did send a couple of messages regarding the HLI details but never received a reply.

Cheers,

Stuart

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I quite agree, Andy. I'm sure the new numbers were worked out at least several weeks in advance of the official use date. That line in my reply was more to confirm to Gerard that since his great uncle's MIC gives his 6-digit number, then he was still on the regiment's nominal roll on 1st March 1917.

Andy H - I think the Foresters' info was corrected a little while ago. I did send a couple of messages regarding the HLI details but never received a reply.

Cheers,

Stuart

thanks for the advice,if he was still on the nominal roll 1st march 1917,does this confirm that he was still in action at this period.thanking you in advance.Gerard

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Thank you - I have corrected the HLI numbers on LLT. The Sherwoods ones were already all correct as far as I know.

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