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8194 Pte Frederick Flinn Irish Guards


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Hello Iam trying to find out more about this soldier and this Guards Regiment I know he entered France on the 5.10.15, but what Battalion would he have been in? and what battles any help in pointing me in the right direction or information is appriciated.

regards steven.

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Have you got his service records if not it is likely that either as part of the 2nd Division or Guards Division it is likely he would have been involved in the Battle of Loos. 25th September - 14th October 1915 - still a choice of either 1st or 2nd Battalion.

Is there any clues on his MIC?

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I've just looked at Kipling's histories of both battalions. The first makes no mention of drafts arriving at that time but the second battalion came out of the line on the 12th October and, during the two nights allowed for rest and refit, a draft of fifty men joined. This is far from conclusive but it's a start.

Ian

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The Medal Index Card record shows a Frederick FINN (no L - well it is getting close to Christmas) as 8194 Irish Guards,but no Bn shown. It then shows that later he was in the Royal Engineers (ROD) number WR267341 and later in the same RE (ROD) 249275.

I would think that he was a replacement for the losses suffered at the Battle of Loos as both IG Battalions were already in theatre at that time.

You will get which Battalion from his original Medal Roll. I would suggest the 1914-15 Star Roll which is RE/1c page 56. Though he seems to have earned the Star whilst in the IG the Roll would have been completed later in whatever unit he was serving in at the time,in this case the RE,but it will still show the Battalion he was in on landing in France on 5.10.1915.This info is only available in situ at Kew Archives,unless of course someone here has the Rolls for the IG.

The WR prefix on his RE number is for the Waterways&Railways,and his rank was Sapper.

Why the change to the RE ? It might have been that he had some skills of value to them and the Army transferred him there.

Sotonmate

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steven856

The Medal Index Card record shows a Frederick FINN (no L - well it is getting close to Christmas) as 8194 Irish Guards,but no Bn shown. It then shows that later he was in the Royal Engineers (ROD) number WR267341 and later in the same RE (ROD) 249275.

I would think that he was a replacement for the losses suffered at the Battle of Loos as both IG Battalions were already in theatre at that time.

You will get which Battalion from his original Medal Roll. I would suggest the 1914-15 Star Roll which is RE/1c page 56. Though he seems to have earned the Star whilst in the IG the Roll would have been completed later in whatever unit he was serving in at the time,in this case the RE,but it will still show the Battalion he was in on landing in France on 5.10.1915.This info is only available in situ at Kew Archives,unless of course someone here has the Rolls for the IG.

The WR prefix on his RE number is for the Waterways&Railways,and his rank was Sapper.

Why the change to the RE ? It might have been that he had some skills of value to them and the Army transferred him there.

Sotonmate

Many thanks guys, My mistake surname is Finn, the information you gave is a start.

thanks again Steven.

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