SteveMarsdin Posted 24 October , 2009 Share Posted 24 October , 2009 Good afternoon All, Sat at "home" at the in-laws in the very wet, grey and overcast Belgian Ardennes. Had to postpone my trip to the Noyers-Pont-Maugis French (including some CWGC) and German cemeteries until tomorrow or Monday, hoping for better weather. Ludwig, our wire-haired standard daschund (a "reject" from hunting stock) is sat at my feet. This has reminded me that when we got him the breeder mentioned that because of the breeds German ancestry and popularity with the Kaiser, their popularity suffered during and just after the war. I have seen them caricatured in a USMC poster of the time, do any other Forum members know of similar depictions, or have any other canine stories relating to WW1 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCurragh Posted 24 October , 2009 Share Posted 24 October , 2009 Steve - a thread here that you should find of interest Alan http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/i...howtopic=113396 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 24 October , 2009 Share Posted 24 October , 2009 One interesting item is that the original Rin Tin Tin was once part of the German WW1 army. US Army corporal Corporal Lee Duncan 'captured' the German Shepherd puppy at a German war-dog station. Rinty made some 22 films for Warner Brothers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthergw Posted 24 October , 2009 Share Posted 24 October , 2009 The German for badger is Dach. and the dachshund is a badger dog. Brave little beggars if they took on Brock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmaasz Posted 24 October , 2009 Share Posted 24 October , 2009 Glad someone knows how to spell it! Even if the owner doesn't!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 24 October , 2009 Share Posted 24 October , 2009 The German for badger is Dach. and the dachshund is a badger dog. Brave little beggars if they took on Brock. Very almost, Tom - Dach means 'roof', Dachs means 'badger' ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 24 October , 2009 Share Posted 24 October , 2009 Not entirely on-topic, but I've often wondered this: why did the dogs get the name "Alsatian", while the girls in white sling-backs and dodgy perms become "Lorraine"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete1052 Posted 24 October , 2009 Share Posted 24 October , 2009 Egbert needs to get a dachshund to eliminate the badgers in his yard. Chester the famous airdale has let fame go to his head, and like a rock and roll star he thinks he doesn't have to work anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthergw Posted 24 October , 2009 Share Posted 24 October , 2009 Very almost, Tom - Dach means 'roof', Dachs means 'badger' ... Ah ha! I thought it was a genitive s and was too lazy to get the dictionary down. I'll do a hundred lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanA Posted 24 October , 2009 Share Posted 24 October , 2009 D'ach is what the German Homer Simpson says in the dubbed version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 24 October , 2009 Share Posted 24 October , 2009 ... the girls in white sling-backs and dodgy perms become "Lorraine" In which guise they perform the butt-wiggling walk known as the McPherson strut after the eponymous catwalk model. And there's the connection - Elle's ass ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 24 October , 2009 Share Posted 24 October , 2009 While someone collects Mr Gunner's coat, I'll point out that I have never, ever, coveted Ms McPherson's ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 24 October , 2009 Share Posted 24 October , 2009 And there's the connection - Elle's ass ... The connection is perhaps more opaque even than some of those made by James Burke, of blessed memory, but Elsass is German for Alsace ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMarsdin Posted 24 October , 2009 Author Share Posted 24 October , 2009 Yes Dachshund is the correct formal spelling from the German for badger hound ! Although certain anglicised references do use daschund/dashchund, here in the Ardennes they are "teckel" and aren't used for hunting badgers but wildboar !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egbert Posted 25 October , 2009 Share Posted 25 October , 2009 They also make an excellent Grillwurst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 25 October , 2009 Share Posted 25 October , 2009 Any thoughts on Schnauzers and the Great War? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 25 October , 2009 Share Posted 25 October , 2009 No but Dalmatians were the American dog of choice for guarding army camps even though Dalmatia was then part of the Austro Hungarian Empire That quintessential French dog the Poodle originated in Germany (poodle is a corruption of a German word) first introduced to the French court by Prince Rupert of the Rhine when in exile during the Cromwellian interregnum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 25 October , 2009 Share Posted 25 October , 2009 poodle is a corruption of a German word 'Pudel', from the verb 'puddeln' meaning 'to paddle' (same etymology as English 'puddle'). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMarsdin Posted 25 October , 2009 Author Share Posted 25 October , 2009 I had understood that, rather like the German Shepherd/Alsatian posts, that due to the war the German "Dachs" was softened to a "Dash" sound by Anglophones, to make the dog sound less German. Hence, although Dachshund is the "correct" name the other names are still in use. Mick, with your linguistic background, do you know the etymology of the name "Teckel" ? Centurion, thank you for all the canine info ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 25 October , 2009 Share Posted 25 October , 2009 The modern German name for the Dachshund is Dackel, with Teckel sometimes used as an alternative for dogs kept as pets (sorry, companion animals) and almost invariably for working dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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