alan jones Posted 17 October , 2009 Share Posted 17 October , 2009 Hello , Are there any Lincolnshire Rgt experts out there ? I would like to know where and what the 8th Bn Lincolnshire Rgt were doing on 30/6/1918 when their RSM William Clifford was killed if possible please . Regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 17 October , 2009 Share Posted 17 October , 2009 Hi Alan, I'm not an expert but you can download the Bn Diary here for £3.50. Also lot of information here on The Long Long Trail Cheers Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 17 October , 2009 Share Posted 17 October , 2009 From Soldiers Died Great War Born Horsham, Surrey Residence Guildford, Surrey Death 30/6/1918 Enlisted Exeter Rank CSM Number 9687 8th Bn Lincolnshire Reg type of casualty died Not sure if he died with Bn, or of illness, or other so the War Diary may not give you much information. Perhaps someone else may be able to help with the meaning of " died " Cheers Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan jones Posted 17 October , 2009 Author Share Posted 17 October , 2009 Thanks Mike, Perhaps it was the flu epidemic of that time ? I found another soldier recently who 'died ' as POW of flu . Regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 17 October , 2009 Share Posted 17 October , 2009 There are 14 pages of his service record on Ancestry. view record-age 19-born about 1890-Horsham Essex-document yr 1909- 14 pages Seems his number then was 9540. If you can access Ancestry, check these details, and make sure I have read it right. Good luck. Cheers Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan jones Posted 17 October , 2009 Author Share Posted 17 October , 2009 Thanks Mike , I had been searching Ancestry early today but was not finding him . It is certainly him and I see that he had an absciss to scapula, but I can't see if this killed him . I notice the signature of Lily Beatrice Clifford which confirms correct man anyway . Regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 17 October , 2009 Share Posted 17 October , 2009 where and what the 8th Bn Lincolnshire Rgt were doing on 30/6/1918 "Battalion in Trenches. Slight Shelling. Casualties - 3 OR " That's all that the diary says for 30th June (and it reads exactly the same bar the casualty numbers (1/Nil/3/Nil)for the previous 4 days too. The trenches referred to were at Essarts. There's even less info in the regimental history. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan jones Posted 17 October , 2009 Author Share Posted 17 October , 2009 Thanks Dave, Thats a very thin report for what was going on for anyone interested in Lincolns, I guess it was down to the ' scribe ' of the day . Regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8linc7ra Posted 17 October , 2009 Share Posted 17 October , 2009 Thanks Dave, Thats a very thin report for what was going on for anyone interested in Lincolns, I guess it was down to the ' scribe ' of the day . Regards Alan Alan Originally a 2nd Lincolns man joined the 8th on 21st Dec 1915. possibly wounded with the second before going to the 8th as he has two casualty nos. Wounded 1-3/7/1916 most probably the 1st July as he was back in England by the 3rd July recovered from wounds and posted back to the 8th. Originally landed in France 5/11/1914. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan jones Posted 17 October , 2009 Author Share Posted 17 October , 2009 Thanks John , Thats very interesting , he certainly saw some action and did well to get to RSM. Its a shame he met his demise like it sounds though . Regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo794 Posted 17 October , 2009 Share Posted 17 October , 2009 Here is his Medal roll, just going through my records to see if we have anything further on him. No.9540 was a 1st Bn. man Pte. Joe Bainton. Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan jones Posted 17 October , 2009 Author Share Posted 17 October , 2009 Thank you Dick much appreciated and any further info would be very welcome. I am hoping a photo of him exists somewhere, I am sure he would look good as a RSM. Regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_davies Posted 18 October , 2009 Share Posted 18 October , 2009 Having orginally landed in France on 5/11/1914 would (I think) make him an "original" member of 2nd Lincs. Reported in the Times list of wounded of 27 May 1916, and MID on 14 Dec 1917. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan jones Posted 18 October , 2009 Author Share Posted 18 October , 2009 Thanks Jim , Is it possible to see Times list of wounded online please ? He certainly had an eventful war . It would be good to see what he looked like . Regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo794 Posted 18 October , 2009 Share Posted 18 October , 2009 Thank you Dick much appreciated and any further info would be very welcome. I am hoping a photo of him exists somewhere, I am sure he would look good as a RSM. Regards Alan He doesn't appear in the Lincolnshire Old Comrades Association lists for the 2nd or for that matter, the 1st Battalions from 1910/13. I think his number at 9687, the highest I have so far seen is 9564, so it looks like a very late 1913 or very early 1914 (upto August) entrant to the 2nd Bn. Will keep digging. Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo794 Posted 18 October , 2009 Share Posted 18 October , 2009 It would seem he was with the Queen's Regt. from Jan. 1904 and had service abroad, looking through the service record, obviously this is where the other number comes from. DW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan jones Posted 18 October , 2009 Author Share Posted 18 October , 2009 Hello , I have tried to find his MID on London Gazette but failed , mind you that is not unusual for me , I find it very hard sometimes . It would be good to see his name on wounded list also . Regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo794 Posted 18 October , 2009 Share Posted 18 October , 2009 Hello , I have tried to find his MID on London Gazette but failed , mind you that is not unusual for me , I find it very hard sometimes . It would be good to see his name on wounded list also . Regards Alan Oh, the LG site gives me nightmares. It maybe aswell to request a look up seperately for this one. The chaps on here are very helpful on this one, if I cannot get into it, I ask. I will give it a go, though. Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_davies Posted 19 October , 2009 Share Posted 19 October , 2009 Alan, PM me your email and the Times list and London Gazette page will be forthcoming in a week or so. jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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