chrisharley9 Posted 23 April , 2010 Author Share Posted 23 April , 2010 Raylene In his case unfortunately I believe that he was lost at sea as there was no trace in any of the Southampton cemeteries. The original newspaper report shows that there was 9 reported missing as opposed to killed. This report originally set me on the trail of the graves as killed to me meant that a body had been recovered Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw Posted 23 April , 2010 Share Posted 23 April , 2010 Chris, Very good work. One of the men is in my boyhood church at St Marys Sholing where I went to a good number of services. When I go home next I will look him up - but I seem to recall that the graveyard there was in a sad condition when I last looked. Let's hope for an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 23 April , 2010 Author Share Posted 23 April , 2010 Ian he is in the part run by the council Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw Posted 24 April , 2010 Share Posted 24 April , 2010 Chris, Thanks. By the way, are you aware if any of these men were on the "Titanic"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 24 April , 2010 Author Share Posted 24 April , 2010 Ian sorry my research has not reached that far Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighfieldHistory Posted 24 April , 2010 Share Posted 24 April , 2010 Chris Thank you for clarifying that. You've done an amzing job to find all this out. I'm just starting on this journey really and never expected it to be so hard! Thanks again. Raylene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw Posted 24 April , 2010 Share Posted 24 April , 2010 Chris, Interesting to compare the crew lists - I am from Southampton and have relatives on my Father's side of the family who were merchant seamen and put down roots in the Southampton area to be close to the ships they sailed in. Regards Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarylW Posted 30 June , 2010 Share Posted 30 June , 2010 I'm sure there are better but here is a photo of the hospital ship Asturias from War Illustrated. Massive ship! Caryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARMAGH Posted 17 August , 2010 Share Posted 17 August , 2010 That was well researched,and a lot of hard work went into the research. I have a post card of HMHS ASTURIAS on the back is stamped "RECEIVED FROM HM SHIP NO CHARGE TO BE RAISED" it is addressed to Mrs Sharman 36 George Str Newcastle on Tyne,the writting is neary unreadable,from the loving husband to say that he is all right, , the name I was given was William Sharman same address,but I cannot match him with army records,there is four that are possible matches,are there any lists of the wounded who were brought home in this ship? Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARMAGH Posted 17 August , 2011 Share Posted 17 August , 2011 By coincide today is the 17 August 2011,my last post on this site was the 17 August 2010. From The Campbellian the Magazine of Campbell College Belfast. A letter from J.A.Quinn Lieut.RAMC Dated Dec 1914, "I am on board hospital ship Asturias engaged in bringing back the wounded. I have now been on it a month. At first we made trips to Harve,but the lines of communication were made unsafe,so now the base is at St Nazaire,at the mounth of the Loire. We have just brought 1,200 wounded this trip.All the officers say the men fought magnificently." Those who were researching this ship,may find this usefull. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 18 February , 2012 Author Share Posted 18 February , 2012 ROBINSON, JOHN BERTRAM ERNEST Rank:Assistant Laundryman Date of Death:21/03/1917 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceB12. 42 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON (ST. MARY EXTRA) CEMETERY Commemoration Moved From Tower Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 26 February , 2012 Author Share Posted 26 February , 2012 BROWN, ARTHUR EDWARD Rank:Trimmer Date of Death:21/03/1917 Age:17 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceSection B3. Grave 12 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON (HOLLYBROOK) CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Charles Henry and Caroline Alma Brown, of 9, Cross Court, Cross St., Southampton. FLUX, HENRY CHARLES Rank:Fireman Date of Death:18/04/1917 Age:31 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceSection B3. Grave 055 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON (HOLLYBROOK) CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of the late John James and Ellen Flux; husband of Annie Caroline Flux (nee Joiner), of 2, Stanley Rd., Totton, Southampton. Born at Southampton. KNELLER, ALBERT ISAAC Rank:Mate of Hold Date of Death:21/03/1917 Age:29 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceSection B3. Grave 75 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON (HOLLYBROOK) CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Albert and Eliza Kneller; husband of Mabel Kneller (nee Cant), of 19, Bellevue St., Southampton. Born at Southampton. REEVES, ERNEST HENRY Rank:Butcher's Mate Date of Death:21/03/1917 Age:25 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceSection B. 3. Grave 31 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON (HOLLYBROOK) CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Samuel and Matilda Reeves, of 14, Longcroft St., Southampton. WHITE, JOHN ALBERT Rank:Third Assistant Cook Date of Death:21/03/1917 Age:18 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceSection B3. Grave 007 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON (HOLLYBROOK) CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Charles Henry Jerome White and Florence Francis White, of 9, Floating Bridge Rd., Southampton. Commemorations Moved From Tower Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 29 February , 2012 Author Share Posted 29 February , 2012 CROOK, WILLIAM HENRY Rank:Fireman Date of Death:04/04/1917 Age:42 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceSection P136 Grave 071 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON OLD CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Ellen Crook and the late James Crook; husband of Anne Elizabeth Crook (nee Hope), of 27, Anglesea Terrace, Southampton. Born at Southampton. Commemoration Moved From Tower Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 4 March , 2012 Author Share Posted 4 March , 2012 CROSS, STANLEY HENRY Rank:Greaser Date of Death:21/03/1917 Age:25 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceSection B010. Grave 250 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON OLD CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Henry and Maria Henrietta Adrienne Cross, of 5, Winchester Place, Craven St., Southampton. Born at Landport. Commemoration Moved From Tower Hill Memorial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 6 March , 2012 Author Share Posted 6 March , 2012 HARVEY, GEORGE BEVIS Rank:Engineer Trade:Strkpr. Date of Death:21/03/1917 Age:58 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceSection 129. O.144 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON OLD CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of the late William and Ellen Harvey; husband of Ann Rebecca Harvey (nee Reeves), of 95, Albert Rd., Chapel, Southampton. Born at Southampton. TUBB, PERCY NEWTON Rank:Fireman Date of Death:24/03/1917 Age:20 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceSection 102. N. 152 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON OLD CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Mary Ann Tubb, of 22, Marsh Lane, Southampton, and the late Newton Tubb. N.B. The Commission is in the process of producing a headstone to mark his grave. Commemorations moved from Tower Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 5 April , 2012 Author Share Posted 5 April , 2012 STONE, HAROLD THOMAS Rank:Steward Date of Death:21/03/1917 Age:17 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine S.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferencePlot 293. Sec.E. Row 25. Grave 1 CemeterySHOLING (ST. MARY) CHURCHYARD Additional Information: Son of Walter Rufus and Annie Frances Stone, of 6, Middle Rd., Sholing Common, Southampton. N.B. Recent research has shown that Steward Stone is buried here. The Commission is in the process of producing a headstone to mark his grave. Commemoration Moved From Tower Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw Posted 5 April , 2012 Share Posted 5 April , 2012 I will be in St Mary's Sholing next week and will have a look for the above grave - it's my family church - my Mother and Father were married there, my christening etc. Interestingly, there is also the grave of Ernest Archer a Titanic survivor who died of TB in 1917 at St Mary's Extra. I quickly reviewed a list of Titanic survivors later death notices in the Southampton papers but there were no candidates for Asturias casualties that had been aboard the Titanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 6 April , 2012 Author Share Posted 6 April , 2012 Ian I think he is in an unmarked grave at present Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw Posted 6 April , 2012 Share Posted 6 April , 2012 OK Chris. Thanks for that info. Hopefully Archer has a grave that we can find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 30 April , 2012 Author Share Posted 30 April , 2012 ANDERSON, JOHN AITKEN Rank:6th Engineer Date of Death:21/03/1917 Age:26 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceSection 277,C.176 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON OLD CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Barbara Polson Anderson, of 9, St. Marys' Rd., Southampton, and the late John Aitken Anderson. Born at Edinburgh. N.B. Recent research has shown that this gentleman is buried here. The casualty has been commemorated on the Tower Hill Memorial and will be removed as and when the panel is replaced. ANDREWS, ARTHUR CHARLES Rank:Waiter Date of Death:21/03/1917 Age:34 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceSection 98,R.112 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON OLD CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of William Thomas and Frances Mary Thomas, of 85, Stafford Rd., Freemantle, Southampton. N.B. Recent research has shown that Waiter A C Andrews is buried here. The casualty has been commemorated on the Tower Hill Memorial and will be removed as and when the panel is replaced. EARL, JAMES WILLIAM Rank:Trimmer Date of Death:21/03/1917 Age:26 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceSection 64,P.132 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON OLD CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Elizabeth Ann Knight (formerly Earl), of 8, Queen St., Southampton, and the late James Earl. N.B. Recent research has shown that Trimmer J W Earl is buried here. The Commission is in the process of producing a headstone to mark his grave. The casualty has been commemorated on the Tower Hill Memorial and will be removed as and when the panel is replaced. GLASSPOOL, EDWIN ALEXANDER Rank:Assistant Baker Date of Death:21/03/1917 Age:19 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceSection 83,E.189 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON OLD CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Edwin and Barbara Glasspool, of 83, Bedford Place, Southampton. N.B. Recent research has shown that Assistant Baker Glasspool is buried here. The Commission is in the process of producing a headstone to mark his grave. The casualty has been commemorated on the Tower Hill Memorial and will be removed as and when the panel is replaced. GREEN, ORLANDO WILLIAM Rank:Fireman Date of Death:21/03/1917 Age:29 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceSection 44,B.169 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON OLD CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Orlando Green and the late Mrs. Green; husband of Daisy Green (nee Meager), of 29, Duke St., Southampton, Born at Southampton. N.B. Recent research has shown that Fireman O W Green is buried here. The Commission is in the process of producing a headstone to mark his grave. The casualty has been commemorated on the Tower Hill Memorial and will be removed as and when the panel is replaced. HUMBY, ARTHUR EDWARD Rank:Fireman Date of Death:21/03/1917 Age:32 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceSectiion 200,C.177 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON OLD CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of John Henry and Catherine Eliza Humby; husband of Florence Lydia Humby (nee Johnson), of 48, Bullar St., Southampton. Born at Southampton. N.B. Recent research has shown that Fireman A E Humby is buried here. The Commission is in the process of producing a headstone to mark his grave. The casualty has been commemorated on the Tower Hill Memorial and will be removed as and when the panel is replaced. KIMBER, HERBERT GEORGE Rank:Assistant Cook Date of Death:21/03/1917 Age:26 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceSection 173,F.191 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON OLD CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Sarah Ann Kimber; husband of Eliza Jane Kimber (nee Baker), of "Homestead," Cobbett Rd., Bitterne Park, Southampton. Born at Southampton. N.B. Recent research has shown that Asst Cook Kimber is buried here. The casualty has been commemorated on the Tower Hill Memorial and will be removed as and when the panel is replaced. MANGER, CHARLES ROBERT PRIOUX Rank:Trimmer Date of Death:01/04/1917 Age:29 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceSection 279,C.176 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON OLD CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Peter Le Petuil Manger and the late Marie Manger; husband of Fanny Margaret Manger (nee Feeney), of 8, Derby Rd., Southampton. Born at Guernsey. N.B. Recent research has shown that Trimmer Manger is buried here. The Commission is in the process of producing a headstone to mark his grave. The casualty has previously been commemorated on the Tower Hill Memorial and will be removed as and when the panel is replaced. TILLYER, JAMES JOHN Rank:Able Seaman Date of Death:21/03/1917 Age:24 Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave ReferenceSection 278,C.176 CemeterySOUTHAMPTON OLD CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Charles and Emily Tillyer, of 60, Payne's Rd., Freemantle, Southampton. N.B. Recent research has shown that Able Seaman Tillyer is buried here. The casualty has been commemorated on the Tower Hill Memorial and will be removed as and when the panel is replaced. Commemorations Moved From Tower Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Mills Posted 2 May , 2012 Share Posted 2 May , 2012 It's taken me ages to find this but I knew I had it somewhere. Here's a photograph of the Asturias taken after she was beached in March 1917. Somehow it seemed to deserve a place in this thread... S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 2 May , 2012 Author Share Posted 2 May , 2012 Thanks very much Simon This photo says it all; just glad that I have found so many of the missing Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 20 June , 2012 Author Share Posted 20 June , 2012 ORMAN, VICTOR CHARLES MAFEKING Rank: Boy Trade: Doctor's Date of Death: 21/03/1917 Age: 18 Regiment/Service: Mercantile Marine H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Grave Reference Sec 54, A.160 Cemetery SOUTHAMPTON OLD CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Frank and Jessie Matilda Orman, of 3, Laundry Rd., Shirley Warren, Southampton. N.B. Recent research has shown that Boy Orman is buried here. The Commission is in the process of producing a headstone to mark his grave. The casualty has been commemorated on the Tower Hill Memorial and will be removed as and when the panel is replaced. Commemoration Moved From UK BOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny adams Posted 4 May , 2013 Share Posted 4 May , 2013 Another 5 of the graves have been found at Southampton Old Cemetery Name: CROOK, WILLIAM HENRY Initials: W H Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Fireman Regiment/Service: Mercantile Marine Unit Text: H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Age: 42 Date of Death: 04/04/1917 Additional information: Son of Ellen Crook and the late James Crook; husband of Anne Elizabeth Crook (nee Hope), of 27, Anglesea Terrace, Southampton. Born at Southampton. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Memorial: TOWER HILL MEMORIAL Name: CROSS, STANLEY HENRY Initials: S H Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Greaser Regiment/Service: Mercantile Marine Unit Text: H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Age: 25 Date of Death: 21/03/1917 Additional information: Son of Henry and Maria Henrietta Adrienne Cross, of 5, Winchester Place, Craven St., Southampton. Born at Landport. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Memorial: TOWER HILL MEMORIAL Name: HARVEY, GEORGE BEVIS Initials: G B Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Engineer (Strkpr.) Regiment/Service: Mercantile Marine Unit Text: H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Age: 58 Date of Death: 21/03/1917 Additional information: Son of the late William and Ellen Harvey; husband of Ann Rebecca Harvey (nee Reeves), of 95, Albert Rd., Chapel, Southampton. Born at Southampton. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Memorial: TOWER HILL MEMORIAL Name: MANGER, CHARLES ROBERT PRIOUX Initials: C R P Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Trimmer Regiment/Service: Mercantile Marine Unit Text: H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Age: 29 Date of Death: 01/04/1917 Additional information: Son of Peter Le Petuil Manger and the late Marie Manger; husband of Fanny Margaret Manger (nee Feeney), of 8, Derby Rd., Southampton. Born at Guernsey. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Memorial: TOWER HILL MEMORIAL Name: TUBB, PERCY NEWTON Initials: P N Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Fireman Regiment/Service: Mercantile Marine Unit Text: H.M.H.S. "Asturias" (Belfast) Age: 20 Date of Death: 24/03/1917 Additional information: Son of Mary Ann Tubb, of 22, Marsh Lane, Southampton, and the late Newton Tubb. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Memorial: TOWER HILL MEMORIAL By my reckoning from the information that I received is that there are 34 casualties from the ships crew; 3 have known graves; I have found 20 of the graves; 9 of the crew were reported missing instead of dead Thank you for the above infomation regarding Percy Newton Tubb, i had posted my own "looking for" post without checking all the others, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigal007 Posted 10 June , 2013 Share Posted 10 June , 2013 I came across this site while researching this ship as my grandfather was on it when it was torpedoed, information I found out through his RAMC records. He was hospitalised after as he seems to have inhaled fumes after the explosion. In his records he describes it has being "gassed". His name was Mark Sutton, a hospital orderly, and he was one of the lucky ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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