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I.D For 1917 leather Sactual/Bag


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Hi all

Just picked this new item up.

I am not sure of its intended use, so any info what be greatly received.

it did not cost me a great deal so whatever it is I will be happy.

The sides bellow out so it could hold some thing larger than it looks, like on saddle wallets.

The carry strap is fixed to the back, no loops on the back.

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Regards Jonathan

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Hello Jonathan

Spare horseshoes? Is it about the right size?

Ron

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The leather looks more WW2 than WW1 I think. I've got one of those folding saws and the case is the same type of leather.

John

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The leather looks more WW2 than WW1 I think. I've got one of those folding saws and the case is the same type of leather.

If you mean the grain to it, it's found on both WW1 and WW2 era leather items.

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What are its actual dimensions and how wide is it fully expanded? I ask this because heliograph carrying cases were this shape but usually of rigid leather size about 9" x 7" x 3 1/2" (perhaps a pal who owns one could give true dimensions?)

M

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Hi all

Thank you for your the ideas.

It was made by D MASON&SONS LTD BIRMINGHAM 1917 /l\

Made of the same grained leather as Saddle wallets folding saw 9 pouch and so on.

The pouch has no separate dividers inside.

It is to small to fit the Mk 1V or V Heliograph I have a couple of Heliographs.

It is similar size to the horse shoe case, but is deeper.

Horse shoe cases have the cut away to get the shoes out, and also a nail pouch on the inside even the Farriers case has the nail pouch.

This pouch is designed to be carried on its strap over the shoulder or side no to be hung on a saddle.

No nail pouch on the inside

The horse wallets are the same shape at the bottom and they are not for horse shoes so the shape could be nothing to do with its intended use.

I hope this info helps for more ideas

I will add the sizes once I find my ruler :rolleyes:

Regards Jonathan

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Lokks like a sporran to me but I'm no expert on Scots kit.

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Lokks like a sporran to me but I'm no expert on Scots kit.

I was thinking the same, but like you am no expert.

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Hi all

I did think of this also.

I am no expert on Sporrans either, although I did have a look around. I found that is was nothing like any Military Sporrans in any info I can find.

The only thing it has in common is the shape although it is much deeper than a sporran.

It has a very long strap and is designed to be over the shoulder not around the waist.

The pouch measures 9 1/2 inches deep and 7 inches wide.

Regards Jonathan

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Hmmm ^_^

I had to use my 100 Ft 1917 military tape measure, as used by Signals and the cable wagons.

To measure the pouch.

The tape measure fits perfectly inside like a glove.

Regards Jonathan

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