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Z/2240 AB Edward Arthur Norgrove RNVR Wales Div.


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Can anyone tell me the type of ships this man was concerned with and what each ships role would be?

Victory I

Commonwealth

Vivid I

Albion

Vivid III

This man was born 22/03/1886 and had 10 years with the Royal Navy.

Also, what would his medal entitlement have been? 1915Star/BWM/VM is likely, but would he have had an LSGC type or General Service Medal?

I have been sent the NA entry.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...37/87/0/103.pdf

Any help with this would be most appreciated.

DickW

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Many Thanks H2

I saw 'Edwin' and wondered about the possibility of a mistake.

How are your eyes?

Any chance of a transcription?

I cannot read half of it, even with my new bins on.

Interesting stuff, though. Most impressed.

Dick

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...8/503/0/310.pdf

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CARNARVON and BONAVENTURE - cruisers. INDUS - Training ship at Devonport. GOSSAMER - Gunboat converted to minesweeper. Google for more information on each.

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H2

Unbelievable. This the quickest piece of research I have known.

Another transcription would be great.

I would enlarge the images, however, I am stuck on a laptop which is new to me and it doesn't have the same programmes as my trusty old PC.

Dick

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...59/150/0/56.pdf

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The Fleet Air Arm Museum has the RMLI attestation pack and RNVR enlistment papers and record card for Norgrove.

H2

I will get onto the FAAM for these details today.

Of course, I will share what I am sent with you and the GWF for your time and interest.

Fantastic stuff.

Dick

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Initial training at RMLI Recruit Depot Deal, Kent. Plymouth Division RMLI (Stonehouse Barracks, Plymouth). EUROPA - cruiser. He transferred to stoker RN while serving in BONAVENTURE. A bit hard to read but it looks as though he had a couple of periods in cells which lowered his character below VG in 1903 and 1904. Details of those offences should be in his FAAM papers.

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H2

Grand stuff.

Many thanks.

About par for the course with my medal collection, people in and out of the glasshouse for one thing or another.

Cheers,

Dick

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Dick,

I have a copy of the original Royal Marines marriage registers for Plymouth, in which there is an entry for a John Richard Norgrove married to Esther Eley in 1875, would this man be one of yours?

E-mail me if it is of interest to you, it is probably to big to upload to this site

Teddie

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Do you have his RND cards too?

Name Norgrove, Edward Arthur

Service Number(s): Z/2240

Rank or Rating: Able Seaman

Date of Birth: 22 March 1886

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=5

His conduct was not good enough for a LSGC Medal, he was still being docked Good Conduct Badges in WWI.

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Do you have his RND cards too?

Name Norgrove, Edward Arthur

Service Number(s): Z/2240

Rank or Rating: Able Seaman

Date of Birth: 22 March 1886

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=5

His conduct was not good enough for a LSGC Medal, he was still being docked Good Conduct Badges in WWI.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Top boy! I will get these for the records tomorrow, many thanks chaps. Sounds like a bit of a lad.

Dick

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Many thanks for all your help on this one.

I have managed to put together a fair old overview of his service career.

The interest generated by your help and enthusiasm has got one or two people in the family thinking. Then, old photos not seen in years turn up with the life buoy of 'Albion' in the background, enabling us to put a date to the picture. Edward and his mate on board in uniform. There are even papers being looked for in the house.

This has got them all digging around.

Edward moved to Grimsby after WW1 and died in 1963. After moving to Grimsby he spent his life on trawlers as a ships engineer.

Cheers,

Dick

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Nice pic of Eddie Norgrove on 'Albion', between 31/07/1916 and 11/1918.

Eddie Norgrove on the left of bottom pic.

Eddie Norgrove RND Wales.

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Dick,

I have a copy of the original Royal Marines marriage registers for Plymouth, in which there is an entry for a John Richard Norgrove married to Esther Eley in 1875, would this man be one of yours?

E-mail me if it is of interest to you, it is probably to big to upload to this site

Teddie

Many thanks for your help on this one, I will get back to you with your enquiry in the morning.

Cheers,

Dick

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