Skipman Posted 26 July , 2009 Share Posted 26 July , 2009 The " What does it say? " thread. Feel free to add questions and answers to those hard to read Bn diary entries. # 1 2nd HLI Diary Sept 10th 1914 ???? ???? Artillery & advanced ???? little opposition to Monnes. Can anyone help decipher the missing words \~/ Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Morgan Posted 26 July , 2009 Share Posted 26 July , 2009 Mike - I think the missing words are ""extended against" and "with". Extended against artillery & advanced with little opposition to MONNES. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Hesketh Posted 26 July , 2009 Share Posted 26 July , 2009 I agree with Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 July , 2009 Share Posted 26 July , 2009 Thank you Tom. That was quick. Does it get easier the more you read these diaries. I suppose when you are more famliar with the ' lingo ' it gets easier. Thanks again for the express service. Cheers Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay dubaya Posted 26 July , 2009 Share Posted 26 July , 2009 Extended ajacent (adjacent) artillery and advanced with little opposition to Monnes Jon edit; just seen above so forget my ramblings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 July , 2009 Share Posted 26 July , 2009 Thanks guys. Jon, don't worry, I won't tell you what I thought it said \~/ Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 26 July , 2009 Share Posted 26 July , 2009 Nice work! How about this one? It's from my grandad's Naval Service Record. Approve as special case, service in ****** lightship (?) being connected sea service and of this being advanced to **** ordinary telegraphist with effect from 28/03/17. ********* Diligence *********. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 July , 2009 Share Posted 26 July , 2009 That's a stinker ITP. Is the first one ' Fort Yardland ' or something like that? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 July , 2009 Share Posted 26 July , 2009 Another couple if you don't mind. 2nd HLI Diary 22/8/1914 " very hot. Long march some ----- not fit ---- yet. Cheers Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson Posted 26 July , 2009 Share Posted 26 July , 2009 Mike Possibly 'reservists' are not fit 'enough' yet? Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 26 July , 2009 Share Posted 26 July , 2009 Some reservists not fit enough yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 July , 2009 Share Posted 26 July , 2009 Thanks again guys. You're very good at this. It's so obvious now. Cheers Mike Edit ... and gals Is it definitely reservists, could it be enlistments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Clay Posted 26 July , 2009 Share Posted 26 July , 2009 Is it definitely reservists, could it be enlistments? Mike, I read 'elements' before I saw the other suggestion of 'reservists'. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Clay Posted 26 July , 2009 Share Posted 26 July , 2009 Nice work! How about this one? It's from my grandad's Naval Service Record. Approve as special case, service in ****** lightship (?) being connected sea service and of this being advanced to **** ordinary telegraphist with effect from 28/03/17. ********* Diligence *********. Approve, as special case, service in Fort Yardland???? lightship being connected sea service and of this being advanced to rating ordinary telegraphist with effect from 28/03/17. Xpcs (???) A....... I (ship name??) ?? ???? Diligence (ship name??) ???? Ledger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard2250 Posted 26 July , 2009 Share Posted 26 July , 2009 Does it get easier the more you read these diaries. I suppose when you are more famliar with the ' lingo ' it gets easier. Methinks tis the old script that be the answer. I couldn't tell you most words at a glance but, when seen in a paragraph, familiar words tell a story because of script comparisons. I have about a hundred handwritten diary pages and I had to get my mom to read some of the letters....she's used to her dad's handwriting. S looks like F, T looks like F...need I say more! I have to say that reading the Forum posts since I've joined has increased (from non-existant) my knowledge of the 'lingo'. Keep up the good sleuthing all, shawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard2250 Posted 26 July , 2009 Share Posted 26 July , 2009 Extended ajacent (adjacent) artillery and advanced with little opposition to Monnes edit; just seen above so forget my ramblings Actually, this is what I read as well. shawn Wouldn't this make a great sub-topic rather than just a thread....which is still a great idea, Mike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard2250 Posted 26 July , 2009 Share Posted 26 July , 2009 " very hot. Long march some ----- not fit ---- yet. Cheers Mike '__servants'? Were they in India or somewhere where servants were used? shawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 27 July , 2009 Share Posted 27 July , 2009 Thanks Jim, and a valiant effort on the ' stinker ' Shawn. They were in France, on the Marne at the time. Probably not servants. The old script is difficult. I think, like yourself, the more I do it, the less I will need this thread. \~/ Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Clay Posted 27 July , 2009 Share Posted 27 July , 2009 Nice work! How about this one? It's from my grandad's Naval Service Record. Approve as special case, service in ****** lightship (?) being connected sea service and of this being advanced to **** ordinary telegraphist with effect from 28/03/17. ********* Diligence *********. Approve, as special case, service in Fort Yardland???? lightship being connected sea service and of this being advanced to rating ordinary telegraphist with effect from 28/03/17. Xpcs (???) A....... I (ship name??) ?? ???? Diligence (ship name??) ???? Ledger. I was thinking that might be WW1 txt spk for expenses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Morgan Posted 27 July , 2009 Share Posted 27 July , 2009 I think it's "his being advanced" rather than "this being advanced" and I think the two words before "Diligence" are "et vide" which is Latin for "and see" so the writer is saying, "see also Diligence ???? ledger". Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 27 July , 2009 Share Posted 27 July , 2009 Many thanks, detectives! It's certainly making a bit more sense. In case it sheds any further light, this is from his service record, and he would seem to have been at HMS Vernon, a shore establishment in Portsmouth during this period. Ganges 12/02/15 Boy II Impregnable 10/04/15 Boy II, Boy I, Boy Tel Vernon 09/07/15 Boy Tel, Ord Tel Victory I ?? /10/17 Diligence (Tomahawk) 05/07/18 Diligence (Tryphon) 01/01/19 Shore Demob 18/02/19 (Diligence was the depot ship for the 12th destroyer flotilla). So, I have... Approve, as special case, service in (Fort Yardland??) &(?) lightship being connected sea service and of his being advanced to rating ordinary telegraphist with effect from 28/03/17. (XPCS or X/IC)?? (poss ship name?) I et vide Diligence (Month??)19 Ledger. I'm looking through lists of lightships and shore establishents to try and crack the last few names. Thanks again for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piorun Posted 27 July , 2009 Share Posted 27 July , 2009 It's Fort Yaverland in the Isle of Wight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 27 July , 2009 Share Posted 27 July , 2009 It's Fort Yaverland in the Isle of Wight. Brilliant. Thank you! Approve, as special case, service in Fort Yaverland + lightship being connected sea service and of his being advanced to rating ordinary telegraphist with effect from 28/03/17. (XPCS or X/IC)?? (poss ship name?) I et vide Diligence (Month??)19 Ledger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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