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The what does it say? Thread


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The " What does it say? " thread. Feel free to add questions and answers to those hard to read Bn diary entries.

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2nd HLI Diary Sept 10th 1914

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???? ???? Artillery & advanced ???? little opposition to Monnes.

Can anyone help decipher the missing words

\~/ Mike

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Mike - I think the missing words are ""extended against" and "with".

Extended against artillery & advanced with little opposition to MONNES.

Tom

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Thank you Tom. That was quick.

Does it get easier the more you read these diaries. I suppose when you are more famliar with the ' lingo ' it gets easier.

Thanks again for the express service.

Cheers Mike

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Extended ajacent (adjacent) artillery and advanced with little opposition to Monnes

Jon

edit; just seen above so forget my ramblings ;)

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Nice work! How about this one?

It's from my grandad's Naval Service Record.

Approve as special case, service in ****** lightship (?) being connected sea service and of this being advanced to **** ordinary telegraphist with effect from 28/03/17. ********* Diligence *********.

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Thanks again guys. You're very good at this. It's so obvious now.

Cheers Mike

Edit ... and gals

Is it definitely reservists, could it be enlistments?

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Is it definitely reservists, could it be enlistments?

Mike, I read 'elements' before I saw the other suggestion of 'reservists'.

Jim

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Nice work! How about this one?

It's from my grandad's Naval Service Record.

Approve as special case, service in ****** lightship (?) being connected sea service and of this being advanced to **** ordinary telegraphist with effect from 28/03/17. ********* Diligence *********.

Approve, as special case, service in Fort Yardland???? lightship being connected sea service and of this being advanced to rating ordinary telegraphist with effect from 28/03/17. Xpcs (???) A....... I (ship name??) ?? ???? Diligence (ship name??) ???? Ledger.

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Does it get easier the more you read these diaries. I suppose when you are more famliar with the ' lingo ' it gets easier.

Methinks tis the old script that be the answer. I couldn't tell you most words at a glance but, when seen in a paragraph, familiar words tell a story because of script comparisons. I have about a hundred handwritten diary pages and I had to get my mom to read some of the letters....she's used to her dad's handwriting. S looks like F, T looks like F...need I say more! I have to say that reading the Forum posts since I've joined has increased (from non-existant) my knowledge of the 'lingo'.

Keep up the good sleuthing all,

shawn

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Extended ajacent (adjacent) artillery and advanced with little opposition to Monnes

edit; just seen above so forget my ramblings ;)

Actually, this is what I read as well.

shawn

Wouldn't this make a great sub-topic rather than just a thread....which is still a great idea, Mike!

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" very hot. Long march

some ----- not fit ---- yet.

Cheers Mike

'__servants'? Were they in India or somewhere where servants were used?

shawn

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Thanks Jim, and a valiant effort on the ' stinker '

Shawn. They were in France, on the Marne at the time. Probably not servants. The old script is difficult. I think, like yourself, the more I do it, the less I will need this thread. :D

\~/ Mike

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Nice work! How about this one?

It's from my grandad's Naval Service Record.

Approve as special case, service in ****** lightship (?) being connected sea service and of this being advanced to **** ordinary telegraphist with effect from 28/03/17. ********* Diligence *********.

Approve, as special case, service in Fort Yardland???? lightship being connected sea service and of this being advanced to rating ordinary telegraphist with effect from 28/03/17. Xpcs (???) A....... I (ship name??) ?? ???? Diligence (ship name??) ???? Ledger.

I was thinking that might be WW1 txt spk for expenses?

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I think it's "his being advanced" rather than "this being advanced" and I think the two words before "Diligence" are "et vide" which is Latin for "and see" so the writer is saying, "see also Diligence ???? ledger".

Tom

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Many thanks, detectives! It's certainly making a bit more sense.

In case it sheds any further light, this is from his service record, and he would seem to have been at HMS Vernon, a shore establishment in Portsmouth during this period.

Ganges 12/02/15 Boy II

Impregnable 10/04/15 Boy II, Boy I, Boy Tel

Vernon 09/07/15 Boy Tel, Ord Tel

Victory I ?? /10/17

Diligence (Tomahawk) 05/07/18

Diligence (Tryphon) 01/01/19

Shore Demob 18/02/19

(Diligence was the depot ship for the 12th destroyer flotilla).

So, I have...

Approve, as special case, service in (Fort Yardland??) &(?) lightship being connected sea service and of his being advanced to rating ordinary telegraphist with effect from 28/03/17. (XPCS or X/IC)?? (poss ship name?) I et vide Diligence (Month??)19 Ledger.

I'm looking through lists of lightships and shore establishents to try and crack the last few names.

Thanks again for the help.

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It's Fort Yaverland in the Isle of Wight.

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It's Fort Yaverland in the Isle of Wight.

Brilliant. Thank you!

Approve, as special case, service in Fort Yaverland + lightship being connected sea service and of his being advanced to rating ordinary telegraphist with effect from 28/03/17. (XPCS or X/IC)?? (poss ship name?) I et vide Diligence (Month??)19 Ledger.

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