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Generals of the Great War


dekenai

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A print of this portrait - with only half of the officers identified - used to be on the wall outside Room 254 of the Old War Office in Whitehall (254 was formerly the Chief of the Imperial General Staff's Briefing Room). There was also a bust of Kitchener on a plinth inside.

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It is one of a set of three works; the other two concerning the Navy Staff and the war's leading politicians from the empire

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No Hubert Gough and I forget the other one, but guess I will be a tad stupid looking.

Maude obviously was dead by this time!

It can be obtained as a canvas print from the National portrait gallery and it looks rather good. Not that i have one of my own.

Regards

Arm

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Archie Murray may have warranted a mention given his C.I.G.S. and service in the desert.

Arm

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c'mon Chaps,

have a go, names left to right (without peeking), Gough was one, The other?

in fact there could be another 2.

anyone?!

I didn't consider Murray--but l reckon he should have been included.

Yep, Maude was dead (cholera in 1917).

The painting was commissioned in 1922 by Sir Abraham Bailey to commemorate the generals who won the war.

cheers

dekenai

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--and

who else was dead by the time the painting was commissioned?

Wilson died after.

RDC

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Oh how stupid am I... said I would didn't I.

Its Smith-Dorrien!!

Regards

Arm

Ps I guess also Maxwell from early desert service could have been included and then if we start to expand both Lake and Nixon from Mespot as well. I wonder how the inclusion/selection list was put together?

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Maude obviously was dead by this time!

So was Botha.

It's awful. Passionless, perfunctory and phoney. You can tell his heart wasn't in it. Compare it with some of the other work in the same website, eg 'Gassed' or the small studies on the 1918 page.

Gwyn

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Yes. He was the great-great-grandson of the admiral's elder brother, Robert George.

Thank you for your answer, JHILL

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Smith-Dorrien, no--

the name l'm after was in charge of a failed campaign.

--the other, fought the Boer war and wounded, then did something different, and was in charge of--- for the war's duration. Major-general then ended up as a Viscount.

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Hamilton....doh

Arm

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Take a cigar----General Sir Ian Hamilton (perhaps he didn't get an invite for the sitting?)

and the other mysterious General with his head in the clouds ?----

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Hugh Trenchard

Arm

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the name l'm after was in charge of a failed campaign.

Is that supposed to narrow it down? :ph34r:

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now take any prize form the top shelf guv'nor !

Marshal of the Royal Air Force The Right Honourable The Viscount Trenchard of Wolfeton, GCB, OM, GCVO, DSO. A very impressive biography, there wasn't much he hadn't done in Military service.

l guess Gough may also not been invited after 5th Army collapse.

So Murray, Hamilton, Gough, Trenchard should be remembered as Generals who helped win the Great War.

thanks all.

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Is that supposed to narrow it down? :ph34r:

:o

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Well,

I'm surprised... I named 13 without cheating, and noticed Gough and Smith-Dorrien were missing. The others mentioned might have come if I had thought for longer. I'm actually quite impressed.

Artistic license with French's height?

None with Wilson's beauty!

Cheers,

Nigel

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Nigel,

beaten at the buzzer by 'ol mate ARM--although he didn't own up to naming all--please take a a prize for the top shelf also, and thanks for playing.

do you think S-D, Hamilton,and Goughie missed out politically?

cheers

RDC

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I actually had a copy in my possession which was given as a present yesterday to someone, so to name them was a bit of a cheat, however I had not looked at it from the angle of who was missing!

It looks very nice framed up.

Regards

Arm

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do you think S-D, Hamilton,and Goughie missed out politically?

Certainly I thought so for Smith-Dorrien and Gough, but I never even noticed Hamilton was missing!

I still think Gough was treated appallingly..... but that's another thread enirely!

Cheers,

Nigel

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