Scottish Collector Posted 11 May , 2009 Share Posted 11 May , 2009 Hi Can any one tell me where I can get information on this regiment I know they were part of the Fife & Forfar Yeomanry I would like to know where they were in France 1918, any help is apriciated, I have the chance to purchase these medals. Regards Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9th Black Watch Posted 11 May , 2009 Share Posted 11 May , 2009 Steven, The regimental history has a chapter on the 14th Battalion. A. G. Wauchope, A History of the Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) in the Great War, 1914 – 1918, Vol. III (London, 1926). There's also D. D. Ogilvie's Fife and Forfar Yeomanry. You can download a copy here http://www.archive.org/details/fifeforfar00ogiluoft Chapter VI deals with the battalion's service in France. Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeesown Posted 11 May , 2009 Share Posted 11 May , 2009 HI Steven The 14th left Egypt,April 31st 1918 and reached Marseilles a week later,so what month are you looking for.? and whos medals do you have a chance of buying.? Gary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Collector Posted 11 May , 2009 Author Share Posted 11 May , 2009 HI Steven The 14th left Egypt,April 31st 1918 and reached Marseilles a week later,so what month are you looking for.? and whos medals do you have a chance of buying.? Gary. Hi Gary, thanks for replying the soldiers details are PTE R.Niven. Regimental number 1840 Died of Wounds 6/9/18. served Fife & Forfar Yeomanry. Then 14th Battalion Black Watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted 11 May , 2009 Share Posted 11 May , 2009 Details Surname NIVEN Firstname Robert Service Number 1840 Date Death 06/09/1918 Decoration Place of birth Tillicoultry Other latterly 345119. 14th Bn. The Black Watch, (Royal Highlanders). SNWM roll FIFE AND FORFAR YEOMANRY Rank Pte Theatre of death F.& F. Details Surname NIVEN Firstname Robert Service Number 345119 Date Death 06/09/1918 Decoration Place of birth Tillicoultry Clackmannanshire Other 14th Bn. formerly 1840 F.& F.Yeo. SNWM roll THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS) Rank Pte Theatre of death F.& F. He is buried at Rouen. Aye Malcolm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Collector Posted 11 May , 2009 Author Share Posted 11 May , 2009 Details Surname NIVEN Firstname Robert Service Number 1840 Date Death 06/09/1918 Decoration Place of birth Tillicoultry Other latterly 345119. 14th Bn. The Black Watch, (Royal Highlanders). SNWM roll FIFE AND FORFAR YEOMANRY Rank Pte Theatre of death F.& F. Details Surname NIVEN Firstname Robert Service Number 345119 Date Death 06/09/1918 Decoration Place of birth Tillicoultry Clackmannanshire Other 14th Bn. formerly 1840 F.& F.Yeo. SNWM roll THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS) Rank Pte Theatre of death F.& F. He is buried at Rouen. Aye Malcolm Malcolm many thanks for the info it is appriciated Regards Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeesown Posted 12 May , 2009 Share Posted 12 May , 2009 Hi Steven This isn`t to say your man received his wounds in September but from the 1st of September the Battalion went into the line at Moislains,they spent the day reconnoitring the ground east of Bouchavesnes,from which the Germans had been pushed that morning,in preparation for an attack on the enemy trenches (Opera-Monastir trenches )on the far side of the Canal du Nord the following day. Sept.2nd 3 a.m. the Battalion had relived the 2/4th London Regiment,and was in position in assembly trenches. At 5.30 a.m. the advance commenced under an artillery barrage,the advance was held up momentarily few times from heavy machine gun fire,but pushing on in most gallant style the leading companies of the 14th got across and up the slope,driving the enemy out of some wooden huts at the point of the bayonet,killing a number of them. In addition to this machine gun fire the 14th was now subjected to heavy artillery fire on the left flank,the enemy teams being actually within sight on the crest of the ridge.To advance under such conditions was out of the question,and as casualties were by nowvery heavy there was nothing left to do but withdraw to the west side of the canal and reorganize.It was found afterwards that the enemy had rushed up his best troops to meet the 74th Division attack,and certainly they did their work well. Casualties in this fighting were heavy,Lieutenant-Colonel Gilmour was wounded,Captains R.W.Steart and I.C.Nairn were Killed,and the remaining two company commanders,Cpt.J.Mcnab and Lt.C.G.Duncan were wounded:in addition Lt.Darney was killed total losses being three officers and 38 other ranks killed:14 officers and 157 other ranks wounded. The following day the Battalion advanced to the trenches south of Moislains and to the slag heap on the canal bank. On the evening of the 4th it was relieved by the 19th Battalion London Regiment and moved back to Aizecourt to rest and reorganize,moving to Longavesnes on the 7th and into the line once more at St.Emilie the same day. At St.Emilie the 14th relieved the 25th Battalion the Welch Regiment in the left sector of the Divisional front,and held a horse-shoe line of trenches round St.Emilie,A company of the Somerset L.I. being attached as the line was long.The 16th Battalion Devonshire Regiment was on the right and a battalion of the 58th Division on the left,but considerably to the rear.The length of the Battalion line was about one and a half miles,and consisted of partially dug trenches which had to be held with less than 400 men all told. (This is from the History of The Black Watch ) hope it helps you a bit. All the best Gary. p.s. hope you get your medals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeesown Posted 12 May , 2009 Share Posted 12 May , 2009 His MIC Steven Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Collector Posted 16 May , 2009 Author Share Posted 16 May , 2009 His MIC Steven Gary Hi Gary many thanks for the information, the medals should be with me on Monday, I'll let you know. Cheers Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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